2020-21 NBA Season Thread - Page 100

JoeAdam · 12-10-2020, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

When did Dallas ever have an iconic, generational player to draw the,? Dirk was awesome, but never really brought big named players to Big D. There is a lot of money in Texas and Dallas specifically. Not the East Coast or West Coast or the “big market” cities, but winning and building a franchises would be possible there. Going to Miami would be to some degree like KD going to a team that was in the final as the previous year.

No state income taxes in Texas either...

Bruin7 · 12-10-2020, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

Anyone think $325/box for 19/20 optic contenders is a must buy deal?

Personally never ripped any this year and haven’t watched any breaks. Was Panini still seeding one of the Big Two rookies per master case? 2018-19 was glorious with Luka or Trae autos per master case.

Dame · 12-10-2020, 10:56 AM

Sources: James Harden now has the Milwaukee Bucks and Miami Heat among his preferred trade destinations, along with the Philadelphia 76ers and Brooklyn Nets.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...5Es1_&ref_url=

Bruin7 · 12-10-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame

Sources: James Harden now has the Milwaukee Bucks and Miami Heat among his preferred trade destinations, along with the Philadelphia 76ers and Brooklyn Nets.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...5Es1_&ref_url=

Crazy, prospects potentially on the move then?

Zacy87 · 12-10-2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruin7

Personally never ripped any this year and haven’t watched any breaks. Was Panini still seeding one of the Big Two rookies per master case? 2018-19 was glorious with Luka or Trae autos per master case.

Neither have i, just had someone tell me they had 2 boxes

Dame · 12-10-2020, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruin7

Crazy, prospects potentially on the move then?

Milwaukee dropped the ball by trading everything they got for Jrue. They are not a realistic destination with no assets.

Miami though, has the assets and salaries to make it work.

The hold supposedly is Tyler Herro.

smalltown · 12-10-2020, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame

Milwaukee dropped the ball by trading everything they got for Jrue. They are not a realistic destination with no assets.

This. Salary wise they could work something around Middleton and Donte but they really have nothing in terms of picks to give. Miami and NJ both have plenty of pick capital.

jcardstore · 12-10-2020, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruin7

Crazy, prospects potentially on the move then?

No way. Miami is not trading for Giannis when they can possibly sign him next year.

Milwaukee doesn't have close to the assets to realistically make a deal.

Harden is just being ridiculous

tjforce · 12-10-2020, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

No way. Miami is not trading for Giannis when they can possibly sign him next year.

Milwaukee doesn't have close to the assets to realistically make a deal.

Harden is just being ridiculous

Maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I don't think Philly trades Simmons or Embiid either.

Both much younger players, and between Harden's attitude and the fact he only has 2 years on his contract, it's giving up too much for him.

I could see them trying to put together a trade based around Tobias Harris, draft picks, young guys like Tyhbulle and Shake Milton... but I think that's the most Philly would offer.

Hail2TheVictors · 12-10-2020, 12:28 PM

The heat would be beyond stupid to trade for harden. They’ve built a great culture, and harden would destroy that almost immediately.

brothertona · 12-10-2020, 12:32 PM

I think it will be the Nets, I think they trade a butt ton of draft picks and the trio of Levert, Allen, and Dinwiddie. It's not a great package but I think it's the best that the Rockets can get.

brothertona · 12-10-2020, 12:37 PM

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-v...ly-11607215654

Dame · 12-10-2020, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

The heat would be beyond stupid to trade for harden. They’ve built a great culture, and harden would destroy that almost immediately.

Why do people always use this “culture” hot take?

Pat Riley has a history of gambling and signing non “culture” guys.

Shaq
Antoine Walker
Jason Williams
Dion Waiters
Whiteside

prospectorgems · 12-10-2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-v...ly-11607215654

Yeah, go for it!

tennelson55 · 12-10-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dame

https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/sta...5Es1_&ref_url=

damn, coach silas off to a hot start

trade that man already

"I said hello to him"

-Silas

" _____ _____ "

- Harden

Toxicity is bad around these parts

Bruin7 · 12-10-2020, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

I think it will be the Nets, I think they trade a butt ton of draft picks and the trio of Levert, Allen, and Dinwiddie. It's not a great package but I think it's the best that the Rockets can get.

But if you think about it given their injury histories I’d account for 2 of the 3 superstars to be heathy by playoffs. Maybe they’re thinking ahead once they’re seeded.

brothertona · 12-10-2020, 12:46 PM

That’s where the athletes would come in. Researchers say that prominent people getting the vaccine and urging others to get the vaccine could help overcome widespread skepticism

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Dame · 12-10-2020, 12:50 PM

Per Shams, Houston is asking for a KD or Kyrie in return. Meaning they won’t give in to Harden’s demands.

Not sure how comfortable Morey is in breaking that Simmons-Embiid pairing but Ben would be the best return for Houston, IMO.

This is going to be messy. I don’t even think Harden has an agent at this time.

brothertona · 12-10-2020, 01:18 PM

Wut

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1...807745028?s=20

Wolves4Life · 12-10-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

Wut

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1...807745028?s=20

He's from LA and wants to retire in LA.

tjforce · 12-10-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by brothertona

Wut

https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1...807745028?s=20

I'm sure he'll be worth every penny!

Dame · 12-10-2020, 01:34 PM

They got no choice. They traded all their assets for him.

$48 million at age 34 though. Big yikes.

gomiamigo · 12-10-2020, 01:35 PM

It'd be crazy for Philly to give up on 24yr All-NBA Simmons, All-D, who is controlled for 5 years for a 2yr rental of Harden. Morey already said he's not going to. If PHL/HOU were gonna do that deal it'd be done already at least by the time Harden was in Vegas crushing Fertita's negotiating leverage.

I'd offer Tobias, Shake, and a future 1st and xx 2nds. Throw in Furkan/Ferguson, sure, he'd be good on a rebuilding team. That's a fair deal. HOU would actually have a roster that would compete, future growth with Shake and Furkan and the 1st obvs.

brothertona · 12-10-2020, 01:35 PM

For the record, I think Paul George is a very good player and I understand that they gave up the world for him so they can't lose him for nothing but I think I'd want to see him play a little better this year before I'd give him a max deal. I understand the flight risk but he hasn't shown enough in LA to give him a deal like this.

KhalDrogo · 12-10-2020, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dame

Sources: James Harden now has the Milwaukee Bucks and Miami Heat among his preferred trade destinations, along with the Philadelphia 76ers and Brooklyn Nets.

https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...5Es1_&ref_url=

Harden can want whatever he wants. He’s not getting it.

As for athletes getting the vaccine in order to help convince others to get it, good luck with that. I can just as easily make the argument that athletes getting it out of turn (NFL and NBA in particular) could alienate a large chunk of the population. Don’t want this to delve into a political issue, but you know what I’m saying.

12-10-2020, 01:35 PM	#2498
gomiamigo Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: in your head Posts: 11,006 esmoney gomiamigo	It'd be crazy for Philly to give up on 24yr All-NBA Simmons, All-D, who is controlled for 5 years for a 2yr rental of Harden. Morey already said he's not going to. If PHL/HOU were gonna do that deal it'd be done already at least by the time Harden was in Vegas crushing Fertita's negotiating leverage. I'd offer Tobias, Shake, and a future 1st and xx 2nds. Throw in Furkan/Ferguson, sure, he'd be good on a rebuilding team. That's a fair deal. HOU would actually have a roster that would compete, future growth with Shake and Furkan and the 1st obvs. __________________ IG: KevinDurant35Cards

12-10-2020, 10:56 AM	#2478
Dame Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3,482	Sources: James Harden now has the Milwaukee Bucks and Miami Heat among his preferred trade destinations, along with the Philadelphia 76ers and Brooklyn Nets. https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/st...5Es1_&ref_url=

12-10-2020, 12:28 PM	#2485
Hail2TheVictors Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 6,503	The heat would be beyond stupid to trade for harden. They’ve built a great culture, and harden would destroy that almost immediately.

12-10-2020, 12:32 PM	#2486
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,967 brothertona1	I think it will be the Nets, I think they trade a butt ton of draft picks and the trio of Levert, Allen, and Dinwiddie. It's not a great package but I think it's the best that the Rockets can get.

12-10-2020, 12:37 PM	#2487
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,967 brothertona1	https://www.wsj.com/articles/covid-v...ly-11607215654

12-10-2020, 12:46 PM	#2492
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,967 brothertona1	That’s where the athletes would come in. Researchers say that prominent people getting the vaccine and urging others to get the vaccine could help overcome widespread skepticism Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

12-10-2020, 12:50 PM	#2493
Dame Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3,482	Per Shams, Houston is asking for a KD or Kyrie in return. Meaning they won’t give in to Harden’s demands. Not sure how comfortable Morey is in breaking that Simmons-Embiid pairing but Ben would be the best return for Houston, IMO. This is going to be messy. I don’t even think Harden has an agent at this time.

12-10-2020, 01:18 PM	#2494
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,967 brothertona1	Wut https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1...807745028?s=20

12-10-2020, 01:34 PM	#2497
Dame Banned Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 3,482	They got no choice. They traded all their assets for him. $48 million at age 34 though. Big yikes.

12-10-2020, 01:35 PM	#2499
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,967 brothertona1	For the record, I think Paul George is a very good player and I understand that they gave up the world for him so they can't lose him for nothing but I think I'd want to see him play a little better this year before I'd give him a max deal. I understand the flight risk but he hasn't shown enough in LA to give him a deal like this.