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Old 08-14-2018, 09:46 PM   #2526
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I think a lot of people are going to disagree with you at this point. Acuna has to be in the lead IMO. Especially when you factor in his defense as well. The only thing Soto has on him is strike zone discipline.
Doesn't Soto have less Ks, more BBs, more runs, higher AVG, higher OBP, higher OPS? Not sure if Acuna has passed him in any of those categories yet.

I would love Acuna to win but if the season ended today I think it would be Soto.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:48 PM   #2527
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Someone please add the walks and the OBP
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Acuna: 81
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:48 PM   #2528
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Don't forget about Freddie Freeman in the MVP voting
I havent.. Freeman is elite and I'd literally trade any offensive player on the planet except Rendon for him.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:52 PM   #2529
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:53 PM   #2530
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Doesn't Soto have less Ks, more BBs, more runs, higher AVG, higher OBP, higher OPS? Not sure if Acuna has passed him in any of those categories yet.

I would love Acuna to win but if the season ended today I think it would be Soto.
We will have to agree to disagree. I can list categories too that Acuna leads in. Also, I will say again, don't forget his defense.

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Old 08-14-2018, 09:54 PM   #2531
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Y'all keep arguing over who is ROY and I will sit back and enjoy them both.

A lot of ball left to play. Hopefully it stays good!
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:55 PM   #2532
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A lot of ball left to play.
I agree. Acuna will settle the debate over the next few weeks.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:58 PM   #2533
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I think the important thing about this ROY race is...

It looked over 2 weeks ago... Soto had it locked up. Now it's a legitimate toss up.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:58 PM   #2534
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We will have to agree to disagree. I can list categories too that Acuna leads in. Also, I will say again, don't forget his defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLmGhnOaCk
Does Soto not play a good defense or something? First I've heard of it.
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Old 08-14-2018, 09:59 PM   #2535
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All my Acuna stuff is officially sold on eBay now. Hoping to get my series 2 SP’s back from psa soon!
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:02 PM   #2536
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All my Acuna stuff is officially sold on eBay now. Hoping to get my series 2 SP’s back from psa soon!

I actually raised some prices and still sold a bunch.

I pulled my BGS 2017 Megas. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:07 PM   #2537
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Does Soto not play a good defense or something? First I've heard of it.
Ok defense and elite defense are not the same thing.

-.9 vs +.1 dWar

There is a difference.
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:10 PM   #2538
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:23 PM   #2540
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Ok defense and elite defense are not the same thing.

-.9 vs +.1 dWar

There is a difference.
Elite? He’s 76th overall in the mlb in defensive WAR....
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Old 08-14-2018, 10:27 PM   #2541
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Elite? He’s 76th overall in the mlb in defensive WAR....
Because he has only played part of the year and is stuck in left field while Inciarte is in center field. Gotta learn to look past certain numbers to see what someone is actually doing.
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Elite? He’s 76th overall in the mlb in defensive WAR....
Also, if you just want to use that hard number instead of factoring in where it came from, Soto is 194th (which happens to be really low on the list).
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Because he has only played part of the year and is stuck in left field while Inciarte is in center field. Gotta learn to look past certain numbers to see what someone is actually doing.
I didn’t want to say it but yes, he is far behind in games played I’m sure
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:15 PM   #2544
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8 games
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He's arrived... and he's over taken ROY from Soto imo.
He hit another one!??? WTH lololol
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Because he has only played part of the year and is stuck in left field while Inciarte is in center field. Gotta learn to look past certain numbers to see what someone is actually doing.
So you initiate the defensive argument by posting defensive stats and the very next breath you tell us to look past the numbers and see what "someone is actually doing"
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:34 PM   #2546
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Oh great. Trout vs Harper debate all over again.
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:39 PM   #2547
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Definitely had to go pick up some Acuna's tonight. His prices are bout to go up up up
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Old 08-14-2018, 11:43 PM   #2548
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Oh great. Trout vs Harper debate all over again.
I was always a Trout guy. I am an Acuna guy on this one.
Plus extra points for him coming back from that fugly injury too!
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So you initiate the defensive argument by posting defensive stats and the very next breath you tell us to look past the numbers and see what "someone is actually doing"
Really? That is your interpretation? His dWar is where it is DESPITE of the things I mentioned. Which make my "number" that I used less impressive. Which in turn, makes the gap even more impressive between the two. It isn't two arguments. It is the same one.
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