Ronald Acuña - Page 102

Rabs · 08-14-2018, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

I think a lot of people are going to disagree with you at this point. Acuna has to be in the lead IMO. Especially when you factor in his defense as well. The only thing Soto has on him is strike zone discipline.

Doesn't Soto have less Ks, more BBs, more runs, higher AVG, higher OBP, higher OPS? Not sure if Acuna has passed him in any of those categories yet.

I would love Acuna to win but if the season ended today I think it would be Soto.

Rabs · 08-14-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmort23

Someone please add the walks and the OBP

Ks:

Acuna: 81
Soto: 57

BBs:

Acuna: 21
Soto: 53

clocsta2323 · 08-14-2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KingInTheNorth

Don't forget about Freddie Freeman in the MVP voting

I havent.. Freeman is elite and I'd literally trade any offensive player on the planet except Rendon for him.

dhendrix1303 · 08-14-2018, 09:52 PM

Voters love the long ball

premium1981 · 08-14-2018, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabs

Doesn't Soto have less Ks, more BBs, more runs, higher AVG, higher OBP, higher OPS? Not sure if Acuna has passed him in any of those categories yet.

I would love Acuna to win but if the season ended today I think it would be Soto.

We will have to agree to disagree. I can list categories too that Acuna leads in. Also, I will say again, don't forget his defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLmGhnOaCk

KhalDrogo · 08-14-2018, 09:54 PM

Y'all keep arguing over who is ROY and I will sit back and enjoy them both.

A lot of ball left to play. Hopefully it stays good!

premium1981 · 08-14-2018, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

A lot of ball left to play.

I agree. Acuna will settle the debate over the next few weeks.

KingInTheNorth · 08-14-2018, 09:58 PM

I think the important thing about this ROY race is...

It looked over 2 weeks ago... Soto had it locked up. Now it's a legitimate toss up.

Rabs · 08-14-2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

We will have to agree to disagree. I can list categories too that Acuna leads in. Also, I will say again, don't forget his defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFLmGhnOaCk

Does Soto not play a good defense or something? First I've heard of it.

Stech36 · 08-14-2018, 09:59 PM

All my Acuna stuff is officially sold on eBay now. Hoping to get my series 2 SP’s back from psa soon!

rngrdanny22 · 08-14-2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stech36

All my Acuna stuff is officially sold on eBay now. Hoping to get my series 2 SP’s back from psa soon!

I actually raised some prices and still sold a bunch.

I pulled my BGS 2017 Megas. I'm cautiously optimistic.

premium1981 · 08-14-2018, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabs

Does Soto not play a good defense or something? First I've heard of it.

Ok defense and elite defense are not the same thing.

-.9 vs +.1 dWar

There is a difference.

gonygo · 08-14-2018, 10:10 PM

What i miss? lol MEGAAAAAA!!!! lol

broncomanning18 · 08-14-2018, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by moosetequila

My PC just like doubled tonight

haha, very nice sir, well played

yanksfan0134 · 08-14-2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Ok defense and elite defense are not the same thing.

-.9 vs +.1 dWar

There is a difference.

Elite? He’s 76th overall in the mlb in defensive WAR....

premium1981 · 08-14-2018, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksfan0134

Elite? He’s 76th overall in the mlb in defensive WAR....

Because he has only played part of the year and is stuck in left field while Inciarte is in center field. Gotta learn to look past certain numbers to see what someone is actually doing.

premium1981 · 08-14-2018, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by yanksfan0134

Elite? He’s 76th overall in the mlb in defensive WAR....

Also, if you just want to use that hard number instead of factoring in where it came from, Soto is 194th (which happens to be really low on the list).

Peties Army · 08-14-2018, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Because he has only played part of the year and is stuck in left field while Inciarte is in center field. Gotta learn to look past certain numbers to see what someone is actually doing.

I didn’t want to say it but yes, he is far behind in games played I’m sure

dasiegel · 08-14-2018, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KingInTheNorth

8 games
8 HRs

He's arrived... and he's over taken ROY from Soto imo.

He hit another one!??? WTH lololol

clocsta2323 · 08-14-2018, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Because he has only played part of the year and is stuck in left field while Inciarte is in center field. Gotta learn to look past certain numbers to see what someone is actually doing.

So you initiate the defensive argument by posting defensive stats and the very next breath you tell us to look past the numbers and see what "someone is actually doing"

BeastMode27 · 08-14-2018, 11:34 PM

Oh great. Trout vs Harper debate all over again.

MJFootball · 08-14-2018, 11:39 PM

Definitely had to go pick up some Acuna's tonight. His prices are bout to go up up up

cardmole · 08-14-2018, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastMode27

Oh great. Trout vs Harper debate all over again.

I was always a Trout guy. I am an Acuna guy on this one.
Plus extra points for him coming back from that fugly injury too!

ThoseBackPages · 08-14-2018, 11:45 PM

His Flagship RC is gonna be FIYA!

premium1981 · 08-15-2018, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by clocsta2323

So you initiate the defensive argument by posting defensive stats and the very next breath you tell us to look past the numbers and see what "someone is actually doing"

Really? That is your interpretation? His dWar is where it is DESPITE of the things I mentioned. Which make my "number" that I used less impressive. Which in turn, makes the gap even more impressive between the two. It isn't two arguments. It is the same one.

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