**Official Luka Doncic Thread**

[pete2345]

Luka just doesn't have that winning pedigree. He needs a Batman to his Robin. He should go to a place with a true superstar.

[RogerGodahell]

Keep saying his name with the all time greats. I like it.

[RogerGodahell]

Second most combined Pts, rebs, assists per game in league history for the playoffs.

Chamberlain 51.2
Doncic 49.9

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by pete2345

Luka just doesn't have that winning pedigree. He needs a Batman to his Robin. He should go to a place with a true superstar.

Worst take yet.

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by pete2345

Luka just doesn't have that winning pedigree. He needs a Batman to his Robin. He should go to a place with a true superstar.

Lol winning pedigree!? He's 23 and been in the league a whole 4 years and took this mavs team to a conference finals. Geez..just stick to hating Trout

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Lol winning pedigree!? He's 23 and been in the league a whole 4 years and took this mavs team to a conference finals. Geez..just stick to hating Trout

He's an idiot. Another one to stop responding to

[pete2345]

Originally Posted by Chris P

Lol winning pedigree!? He's 23 and been in the league a whole 4 years and took this mavs team to a conference finals. Geez..just stick to hating Trout

He's just so slow and passive I can't imagine that becoming better with age. He looks A lot like a slower version of Paul Pierce.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by pete2345

Luka just doesn't have that winning pedigree. He needs a Batman to his Robin. He should go to a place with a true superstar.

Let me guess, you want him to team with LeBron so that Lebron can call himself the greatest Mavericks player of All-Time.

[Onepocketj]

JJ Redick on Kellerman's claim that Luka doesn't make teammates better like Magic or Bird: “Luka doesn't make people better? Magic & Bird played with Hall of Famers. Luka is playing with 2nd round picks, undrafted guys like DFS. His shot quality created for his teammates - #1 in the last 2 seasons.”

[KhalDrogo]

BO dying a slow death. No good card talk. No good sports talk.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by pete2345

He's just so slow and passive I can't imagine that becoming better with age. He looks A lot like a slower version of Paul Pierce.

He's not fast i'll give you that. But how does he average 32.8 points, 9.2 REB, and 8 AST for his career in the playoffs? With the best players defending him often times double teamed.

If that's passive then i'd like to see aggressive. He has the 3rd most points scored in the playoffs ever through 26 games played. It was the same 3 players at 20 games and it will be the same 3 at 30. MJ, Chamberlain, and Doncic.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

What's the point?

Ah, my apologies for giving you the benefit of the doubt lol.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

JJ Redick on Kellerman's claim that Luka doesn't make teammates better like Magic or Bird: “Luka doesn't make people better? Magic & Bird played with Hall of Famers. Luka is playing with 2nd round picks, undrafted guys like DFS. His shot quality created for his teammates - #1 in the last 2 seasons.”

Max Kellerman is a woke sellout. That whole channel, the entire lot on ESPN is garbage and has been for going on a decade now. They will probably be bankrupt in another 10-15 years because no one watches them anymore. Only reason it's still relevant is the games. Everything else is just click bait trash shock news to try and provoke a response for ratings.

Why do you think Brady announced he took a deal at Fox when he's done playing? Because ESPN is a garbage network and he would never work there. That was the beginning of their downfall when they attacked him in 2014. Ratings plummet like they've never seen for leading a witch hunt against the GOAT.

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Max Kellerman is a woke sellout. That whole channel, the entire lot on ESPN is garbage and has been for going on a decade now. They will probably be bankrupt in another 10-15 years because no one watches them anymore. Only reason it's still relevant is the games. Everything else is just click bait trash shock news to try and provoke a response for ratings.

Why do you think Brady announced he took a deal at Fox when he's done playing? Because ESPN is a garbage network and he would never work there. That was the beginning of their downfall when they attacked him in 2014. Ratings plummet like they've never seen for leading a witch hunt against the GOAT.

I still love ESPN but refuse to watch any show that has Kellerman or Stephen A. They both just filled the role of Skip Bayless and say things they don't really believe just to stir the pot. Plus they flip flop their points by the hour to fit the narrative of the last non-sense they just said. There's no one else on ESPN that I think is very bad but those 2 I just cannot stomach.

Edit: Not a big fan of Orlovsky either. Talks as if he is a HOFer when he was below average at best and yells a lot.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Max Kellerman is a woke sellout. That whole channel, the entire lot on ESPN is garbage and has been for going on a decade now. They will probably be bankrupt in another 10-15 years because no one watches them anymore. Only reason it's still relevant is the games. Everything else is just click bait trash shock news to try and provoke a response for ratings.

Why do you think Brady announced he took a deal at Fox when he's done playing? Because ESPN is a garbage network and he would never work there. That was the beginning of their downfall when they attacked him in 2014. Ratings plummet like they've never seen for leading a witch hunt against the GOAT.

You think people don't watch ESPN because they said mean things about Tom Brady? Their content is garbage. It's not that complex.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

You think people don't watch ESPN because they said mean things about Tom Brady? Their content is garbage. It's not that complex.

Thanks for your contribution to the all time most popular thread in the basketball section. Come again.

[PLB9eight]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

JJ Redick on Kellerman's claim that Luka doesn't make teammates better like Magic or Bird: “Luka doesn't make people better? Magic & Bird played with Hall of Famers. Luka is playing with 2nd round picks, undrafted guys like DFS. His shot quality created for his teammates - #1 in the last 2 seasons.”

Redick nailed it and he should know. He’s the type of player that would flourish on those clean looks. Luka’s potential assists vs actual assists is pretty telling of how bad his teammates have been shooting.


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[SandStoneSports]

Originally Posted by PLB9eight

Redick nailed it and he should know. He’s the type of player that would flourish on those clean looks. Luka’s potential assists vs actual assists is pretty telling of how bad his teammates have been shooting.


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Watched a lot of Mavericks basketball. I cant tell you how many passes Luka has had this year where I jumped out of my chair just blown away, only to watch his teammate clank a wide open jumper.

There have been a few this year that would have been easily ESPN Top Ten Plays had his counterpart actually hit the shot.

[RogerGodahell]

Sign Mike Tobey i think his Valencia contract is up.

Tobey said it would take a guaranteed contract above league min for him to return to the NBA. Well pay the man already and bring him home. He's better than any of the Mavs centers. Luka made him look like an all-star in the Olympics. Get someone else too but that's a cheap contingency plan.

[2010GBPackers]

If Luka's teammates can constantly be thrown under the bus for missing shots and not "shooting their average," can his teammates then ask him to play some form of defense so his man isn't into the lane in .5 seconds, collapsing their defense and leaving them scrambling to rotate? It's an honest question. Everyone wants to focus so much on the offensive side, but there's an entire half of the game Luka fans seem to be forgetting about. And I've mentioned it before, it's not just Luka (Dallas' interior is terrible, too) but pretending like they'd be down 2-1 or up 1-2 if they'd just hit shots is ridiculous. Their defense cannot play at this pace - it's pretty crystal clear.

[SandStoneSports]

Originally Posted by pete2345

He's just so slow and passive I can't imagine that becoming better with age. He looks A lot like a slower version of Paul Pierce.

The guy is a 6'7 230 pound player. Is he fast to the basket like Lebron, MJ or Kobe, absolutely not. But is his ball handling and lateral movement good, yes it is. Despite not being fast, he still gets to the basket.

Personally I dont feel like driving to the basket is an essential part to his game. As he gets older he will use his step back and turn around jumper to continue to be an elite scorer. I dont think we are giving the guy enough credit for how good he is outside of scoring.

[RogerGodahell]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

If Luka's teammates can constantly be thrown under the bus for missing shots and not "shooting their average," can his teammates then ask him to play some form of defense so his man isn't into the lane in .5 seconds, collapsing their defense and leaving them scrambling to rotate? It's an honest question. Everyone wants to focus so much on the offensive side, but there's an entire half of the game Luka fans seem to be forgetting about. And I've mentioned it before, it's not just Luka (Dallas' interior is terrible, too) but pretending like they'd be down 2-1 or up 1-2 if they'd just hit shots is ridiculous. Their defense cannot play at this pace - it's pretty crystal clear.

He's not the best defender but he's not the worst either no matter how much you listen to Reggie Miller. He gets a fair amount of steals and makes some timely plays. He leads the Mavs in steals and is second on the team in blocked shots. While also leading them in every offensive category Points, rebounds, and assists. Rebounds are both and i'd say he's a pretty good defensive rebounder.

[SandStoneSports]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

If Luka's teammates can constantly be thrown under the bus for missing shots and not "shooting their average," can his teammates then ask him to play some form of defense so his man isn't into the lane in .5 seconds, collapsing their defense and leaving them scrambling to rotate? It's an honest question. Everyone wants to focus so much on the offensive side, but there's an entire half of the game Luka fans seem to be forgetting about. And I've mentioned it before, it's not just Luka (Dallas' interior is terrible, too) but pretending like they'd be down 2-1 or up 1-2 if they'd just hit shots is ridiculous. Their defense cannot play at this pace - it's pretty crystal clear.

Be honest, you just dont like the player personally. Bringing up defense is a clear sign. He's a scorer, who distributes the ball very well, and plays the boards very well despite being a guard. How many elite scoring guards are also elite defenders? Saying he needs to play some form of defense is hyperbole. He isnt a great or even good defender, but you're making him out to be helpless, which is far from true.

The bottom line with the Warriors series is the Mavericks Centers and Forwards arent good, in any respect.

[rustywest]

Originally Posted by SandStoneSports

Be honest, you just dont like the player personally. Bringing up defense is a clear sign. He's a scorer, who distributes the ball very well, and plays the boards very well despite being a guard. How many elite scoring guards are also elite defenders? Saying he needs to play some form of defense is hyperbole. He isnt a great or even good defender, but you're making him out to be helpless, which is far from true.

The bottom line with the Warriors series is the Mavericks Centers and Forwards arent good, in any respect.

You nailed it. Except in one respect with the Forwards atleast, they might can a bunch of 3's every 4th or 5th game.

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

BO dying a slow death. No good card talk. No good sports talk.

..LOL