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#2601 |
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PSA Cert #40927102
1909-11 T206 Nap Lajoie PORTRAIT - Piedmont Value gain of $562.89 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-2 on June 06, 2017 for $249.50. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1509059 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-4 for $812.39 on July 08, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1686705 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Staining on the back has been cleaned. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I just updated the Trimmed PSA Set Registry list— Please help find these owners!
Updated 6/7/2019
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PSA Cert #27643912
1954 Bowman Mickey Mantle #65 Value gain of $638.00 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-4 on June 08, 2017 for $585.00. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1510073 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-6 for $1,223.00 on October 17, 2017. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1556397 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Red squares identify a trimmed right edge and stain removal on the back. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Have you guys been able to find anything suspicious through Heritage yet? Other than the original Mantle.
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What's the total number of cards that have been altered and how many years has this been going on?
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#2609 |
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Your time is definitely best spent on eBay at least until the Moser trail is exhausted. With no bidder IDs, I’m sure Heritage would be much harder to piece together. Keep up the strong work!
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I think any major auction house that we know Brent/PWCC or Moser bought from or consigned to we have to dig deeper into what they've sold. The '52 Mantle PSA 4.5 originally came from Heritage Auctions, so their past sales would be at the top of the list to check out of the big houses.
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PSA Cert #:26256541
1948 Leaf #1 Joe DiMaggio PSA 6 to PSA 7 Sold on 4/19/2016 as a PSA 6 by eBay seller bigskysc to whitman111 (Gary Moser) for $1,299.95 Consigned to PWCC and sold on 3/11/2018 as a PSA 7 for $3,995.00 Value gain of $2,695.05! Here we have another trimmed border on a 1948-49 Leaf baseball card. This Joe DiMaggio was lightly trimmed on the right edge. Not only does the white border look smaller when comparing the PSA 6 and PSA 7, but it is smaller. The red arrow points to the paper fiber that proves this. The detailed image shows how that unique fiber is touching the border in the PSA 7, while it does not in the PSA 6. The unique marks and paper fibers in the purple circles confirm they are the same card. http://www.vintagecardprices.com/car...6&w=667&h=1200 ![]() https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1619501 ![]() ![]()
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PSA Cert #28639475
1954 Topps Al Kaline RC #201 Value gain of $659.99 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-6 on June 22, 2017 for $696.00. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1508636 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-7 for $1,355.99 on March 12, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1620401 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Red squares identify ink removal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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I know Marlboro Man Randy Johnson had several varieties, as well as Billy Ripken FF
I've looked at 100K+ of 1980's Topps and seen a lot of ink spots and such. Mostly Bonds, Sierra, McGwire, Canseco. When I see printing issues, I just toss the card. I should know this, but never thought to compare them with other examples to see if the printing issues are random or repetitive. Kinda like a die for a coin. Certain markers are fingerprints to authenticate a coin etc... Just curious if there could be an explanation. If there is no reasonable explanation, then this is pretty damning evidence. |
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PSA Cert #27945708
1969 Topps Mickey Mantle #500 Value gain of $1,195.62 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a BVG 5.5 on June 08, 2017 for $111.49. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1500188 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-8 for $1,307.11 on November 15, 2017. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1575252 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Red squares identify ink spot removal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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SGC Cert #:8628621
1933 Goudey #53 Babe Ruth BVG 2.5 to SGC 3 Sold on 6/11/2018 as a BVG 2.5 by PWCC to whitman111 (Gary Moser) for $2,469.00 Consigned to PWCC and sold on 10/14/2018 as a SGC 3 for $5,105.55 Value gain of $2,636.55! Here is another SGC-graded card that was altered by Moser (and another card found from a collector's tip). I believe that the recent shift from PSA to SGC is a result of higher PSA prices and long turnaround times. This Ruth was taken to the cleaners—literally. Notice the red marks are virtually gone from its time in a BVG 2.5 holder. The dirtier a card is, the more chemical soaking it takes to clean. And the more chemical soaking, the more the natural colors of the card are stripped away, as you can see especially on the green-printed reverse. True conservation is a benign act. This is alteration, all in the name of personal gain. The green circle shows the red mark before and after. The blue circle shows there was a crease in the lower left corner that has been pressed out. PWCC's deceptive description of the SGC 3 confirms this: "Incredibly, this card is void of any typical wrinkles or creasing." BVG 2.5: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1669738 SGC 3: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1806146 ![]() ![]()
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Per VCP, Moser bought the PSA 2 on the left. He then bought the PSA 2 on the right from eman_28551, who bought it from PWCC after the trimming. Therefore, be on the lookout for this after after more work is done.
Pre: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1115122 Post: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1593576 ![]() 27364007
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#2618 |
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PSA Cert #29059563
1952 Topps Look 'N See Babe Ruth #15 Value gain of $447.41 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-6 on September 27, 2017 for $138.59. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1553764 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-8 for $586.00 on January 14, 2019. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1887481 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Red squares identify ink trimming. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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PSA Cert #28469913
1914 Cracker Jack Ray Fisher #102 Value gain of $645.97 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-2 on September 10, 2017 for $314.03. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1540117 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-3 for $960.00 on March 11, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1619165 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Red squares identify stain removal/minimized. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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PSA Cert #28469914
1914 Cracker Jack Josh Devore #47 Value gain of $275.19 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-1 on September 10, 2017 for $89.00. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1540078 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-3 for $364.19 on March 11, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1619159 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Red squares identify stain removal/minimized. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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PSA Cert #28469910
1909 E95 Philadelphia Caramel Ty Cobb Value gain of $3,517.00 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-3 on September 10, 2017 for $2,138.00. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1539421 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-5 for $5,655.00 on March 11, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1618836 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Massive stain removal on the back. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Note that the last three cards posted are only five PSA cert numbers apart from each other.
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I believe it's been stated but I'm convinced that Brent(or the "salt of the earth" guy) screens all consignments for cards that can be improved or "conserved" and let's Moser know so he can bid/win them. Moser does his dirty work, resubs to PSA and sends them back to PWCC to resell for profit. I wouldn't be surprised if Moser is on the payroll. Yes, all speculative, for now, but this is ridiculous.
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PSA Cert #28469916
1914 Cracker Jack Nap Lajoie #66 Value gain of $664.00 This card was purchased by whitman111 (Gary Moser) from PWCC as a PSA-2 on September 10, 2017 for $1,136.00. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1540095 Same card was sold by PWCC as a PSA-2 for $1,800.00 on March 11, 2018. PWCC Marketplace link: https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/items/1619161 Yellow circles are print mark identifiers. Stain removal on the front and back. No grade bump, but a $600+ profit. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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^^^ Add that Cracker Jack to make it 4 out of 8 consecutive PSA cert numbers.
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