2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[discostu]

Please, by all means, correct me if I'm wrong about this story...



Students, not the school, petitioned the school rescind her admission.

The school never threatened to rescind her application. And never considered it.

The school then reached out to her to ask about what she was claiming as threatening language and whether or not she'd be okay once she reached campus with the attention she attained.



Am I wrong here?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

What are you arguing?

That threatening to rescind admission is OK?

That because they let her in anyway, that makes their "background check" into her OK?

What are you saying?

I'm asking questions, just like you.

Is there any proof any of this happened? Have any of the other conservative students at the University confirmed this stuff happened to them? Honestly, I don't know. I hadn't even heard of this Marquette thing until the board brought it up.

All I can find is she (the student) said it happened. I know YOU specifically are big on proof.

Originally Posted by rman112

I still haven't seen anything about the Marquette story being less ridiculous than it seems. And amazingly, they're a catholic school.

What have you seen?

Originally Posted by rman112

I'm having trouble finding any evidence of the claims.

The timing of all of this is odd. I'd like to see proof beyond believing the NY Times.

Like you said, is there any evidence beyond what the girl said that any of this story actually occurred? That she was threatened by the admissions officer. Just seems odd.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by Clark

No you still have the cake. My condescending posts were an act, you are being you. It's not fun when people are condescending towards you is it? Now you know how you come off to other members of the forum.

In general I try to stay away from the American political parties. However, I will post alternate positions when someone pushes a fake news media narrative. The main reason I am posting in this thread has to do with issues that affect both our countries, race relations, systemic discrimination, BLM, defunding the police. These issues don''t stop at the border.

Yeah, I said I can be condescending...so no tears here. But your tone is an act? Yes, right...lol.

Unlike you, just about every stupid-ass decision set forth by this incompetent administration DIRECTLY affects my family, friends and coworkers, so these issues are clearly important to me. By and large the issues affecting Canada as a result of policy in the States amount to a small fraction of what impacts us.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by discostu

Please, by all means, correct me if I'm wrong about this story...



Students, not the school, petitioned the school rescind her admission.

The school never threatened to rescind her application. And never considered it.

The school then reached out to her to ask about what she was claiming as threatening language and whether or not she'd be okay once she reached campus with the attention she attained.



Am I wrong here?

https://www.thecollegefix.com/marque...-tiktok-video/

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I'm asking questions, just like you.

Is there any proof any of this happened? Have any of the other conservative students at the University confirmed this stuff happened to them? Honestly, I don't know. I hadn't even heard of this Marquette thing until the board brought it up.

All I can find is she (the student) said it happened. I know YOU specifically are big on proof.



What have you seen?



Like you said, is there any evidence beyond what the girl said that any of this story actually occurred? That she was threatened by the admissions officer. Just seems odd.

You mean like the school coming out and admitting they did this? Right, as if that would happen.

What does she possibly have to gain by making this up?

[discostu]

Originally Posted by marl1220

https://www.thecollegefix.com/marque...-tiktok-video/

So again, am I wrong?

Sure, she's claiming that the Dean of Admissions reached out, and maybe he did. Doubtful, but maybe he did.

My thought? She got exactly what she wanted...attention. She'll get some solid play in the conservative market for years to come. Good for her.

Manufactured controversy is tiresome, no matter the side of the aisle.

[rman112]

She could be lying, sure. The article also mentions that they reached out to MU several times for comment, but never heard back.

This certainly seems like something MU would want to clear up, if false. And it would only take a few minutes on the phone, or a single email.

[mike1498]

What I will say that scares me more than the liberalization of education is the censorship of social media.

The reason I care is because UD can't force me to be liberal. Social media can prevent me from being informed on other opinions by physically removing them.

As a side note, BO is the only social media I have. (I have facebook as well but use it solely as an alternative to ebay).

[rman112]

Originally Posted by discostu

So again, am I wrong?

Sure, she's claiming that the Dean of Admissions reached out, and maybe he did. Doubtful, but maybe he did.

My thought? She got exactly what she wanted...attention. She'll get some solid play in the conservative market for years to come. Good for her.

Manufactured controversy is tiresome, no matter the side of the aisle.

A MU spokeswoman acknowledged the admissions team talked to her about her social media.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by discostu

So again, am I wrong?

Sure, she's claiming that the Dean of Admissions reached out, and maybe he did. Doubtful, but maybe he did.

My thought? She got exactly what she wanted...attention. She'll get some solid play in the conservative market for years to come. Good for her.

Manufactured controversy is tiresome, no matter the side of the aisle.

It's kind of strange what we decide to take a girls word on and what we don't.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by marl1220

You mean like the school coming out and admitting they did this? Right, as if that would happen.

What does she possibly have to gain by making this up?

Notoriety and martyrdom, which seem to be THE THING people are after these days.

She got the notoriety and people have definitely turned her into a martyr for the cause.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by rman112

A MU spokeswoman acknowledged the admissions team talked to her about her social media.

Yes, they indeed are on record and stated what was discussed. No mention of her being at risk of her acceptance being rescinded.

Originally Posted by marl1220

It's kind of strange what we decide to take a girls word on and what we don't.

Oof...let's not get SJW here. (wink) Clearly she's making a statement in her video. Clearly she's taunting the liberals she expects to encounter in college. She got the response she sought out. And the attention she sought out. Good for her. She's on the radar of Donny Jr. et al. Maybe she'll get a slot at the convention.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

She could be lying, sure. The article also mentions that they reached out to MU several times for comment, but never heard back.

This certainly seems like something MU would want to clear up, if false. And it would only take a few minutes on the phone, or a single email.

They did comment though...

A Marquette spokeswoman told Empower Wisconsin that the school had not rescinded Pfefferle’s offer, although acknowledged “the admissions team did recently have a conversation with incoming freshman Samantha Pfefferle about statements made on her social media accounts.”

[DegaBama]

Can I identify as a 16 year old? Serious question?

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

They did comment though...

I don't get it. Are EW and TCF are the same thing?

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Can I identify as a 16 year old? Serious question?

If this is true I guess I don't need my fake anymore.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Notoriety and martyrdom, which seem to be THE THING people are after these days.

She got the notoriety and people have definitely turned her into a martyr for the cause.

Well, I guess I'm just not that jaded in my thinking.

Ahhhh, who am I kidding? I'm exactly that jaded.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

I don't get it. Are EW and TCF are the same thing?

Help me with the abbreviations. I'm lost now. I'm just trying to find where Marquette responded (which they did and denied her allegations of rescinding her admittance).

[rman112]

Originally Posted by discostu

Yes, they indeed are on record and stated what was discussed. No mention of her being at risk of her acceptance being rescinded.

Well, you said it was doubtful that Admissions reached out.

They say no scholarship was rescinded. But she stated that she was already accepted, already paid for room and board, and already has a semester schedule. So why would that all of the sudden be an issue now? She claims she was told she's "not a student" (presumably 'yet').

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Help me with the abbreviations. I'm lost now. I'm just trying to find where Marquette responded (which they did and denied her allegations of rescinding her admittance).

The article is from The College Fix. They mentioned they couldn't reach MU for comment. But then they say that an MU spokeswoman told Empower Wisconsin etc etc

[discostu]

Originally Posted by rman112

Well, you said it was doubtful that Admissions reached out.

They say no scholarship was rescinded. But she stated that she was already accepted, already paid for room and board, and already has a semester schedule. So why would that all of the sudden be an issue now? She claims she was told she's "not a student" (presumably 'yet').

Sorry, I should have clarified, I find it hard to believe that the Dean of Undergraduate Admissions reached out directly alluding to rescinding her enrollment.

Regarding her being a student...she isn't a student until school starts. Is she?

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by rman112

Well, you said it was doubtful that Admissions reached out.

They say no scholarship was rescinded. But she stated that she was already accepted, already paid for room and board, and already has a semester schedule. So why would that all of the sudden be an issue now? She claims she was told she's "not a student" (presumably 'yet').

But do you have proof? Did the college acknowledge any of this happening?

I'm all onboard with the possibility that she made this up. I doubt she did, but it is a possibility. The idea that people expect the college to come out and verify every thing she said happened, actually happened, is laughable. There's no way they'd admit to it, truth or not.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by rman112

The article is from The College Fix. They mentioned they couldn't reach MU for comment. But then they say that an MU spokeswoman told Empower Wisconsin etc etc

I understand.

I found the quote on the Empower Wisconsin site, which was linked from The College Fix.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by discostu

Sorry, I should have clarified, I find it hard to believe that the Dean of Undergraduate Admissions reached out directly alluding to rescinding her enrollment.

Regarding her being a student...she isn't a student until school starts. Is she?

Really?

So let's assume she's telling the truth. Because if not, none of it matters.

She has a schedule. She was allowed to pay for room and board. Now, all the sudden, they reach out to her regarding her pro-Trump social media, and just now.. her student status is in jeopardy.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I understand.

I found the quote on the Empower Wisconsin site, which was linked from The College Fix.

Maybe they're sister sites. I really don't know.