**The Perennial MIKE TROUT Thread** - Page 106

Soxfanguy · 03-18-2019, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jjeanius

No, I don’t think he was talking specifically about this example. Just general overall concern over the possibility of Target Red being a, err...target for trimmers.

Get superdan49 on this ASAP

KhalDrogo · 03-18-2019, 10:05 AM

It is exceptionally difficult to prove a modern, unnumbered card is trimmed. Best you can get is circumstantial evidence where you show that the same user bought a card with damage, then a short while later sold a cleaner version of the card.

There aren’t raw Target reds floating around anymore. The best trim candidates are those in BGS slabs with slight corner wear.

Soxfanguy · 03-18-2019, 10:23 AM

If you look at the edges you see a lot of white. Should have been a 8 or 9

Neal · 03-18-2019, 10:23 AM

I love the pose on the 12 update - classic baseball card imo. I also believe the 2012 and 2013 Topps Museum cards are gaining notoriety with some really nice price points still on 2013 (which is the nicer one imo)

Just my .02

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ThoseBackPages · 03-18-2019, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

If you look at the edges you see a lot of white. Should have been a 8 or 9

are you in the market for an 8?

KhalDrogo · 03-18-2019, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

If you look at the edges you see a lot of white. Should have been a 8 or 9

Please show us.

Soxfanguy · 03-18-2019, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Please show us.

https://ebay.us/EEk5Cn

Bottom left corner, also top right, use the magnify tool.

jjeanius · 03-18-2019, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

https://ebay.us/EEk5Cn

Bottom left corner, also top right, use the magnify tool.

Disagree.

IMO that is a really clean card. I have no problem with the grade.

KhalDrogo · 03-18-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

https://ebay.us/EEk5Cn

Bottom left corner, also top right, use the magnify tool.

That’s not white. That’s edge glare. Guarantee you in hand that card looks near flawless.

KB81 · 03-18-2019, 11:15 AM

Mail day

Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance

Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now.

jjeanius · 03-18-2019, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KB81

Mail day

Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance

Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now.

Very nice!

jhileman79 · 03-18-2019, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by KB81

Mail day

Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance

Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now.

Great pick ups! I’m glad you pulled the trigger on a 175 Refractor

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KB81 · 03-18-2019, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jhileman79

Great pick ups! I’m glad you pulled the trigger on a 175 Refractor

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Thanks!

Still feel a bit uneasy. Most I ever spent on Judge was 1K and here I am spend more on Fish. Worth the risk though.

All hail FISH!

jjo1776 · 03-18-2019, 11:26 AM

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-MIKE-T...nner=1&ul_ref=

Somebody landed a fake diamond for $350 yikes

jstephens24 · 03-18-2019, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jjeanius

No, I don’t think he was talking specifically about this example. Just general overall concern over the possibility of Target Red being a, err...target for trimmers.

correct. its just sad that trimming possibility is the first thing that pops in my head now.

Soxfanguy · 03-18-2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

That’s not white. That’s edge glare. Guarantee you in hand that card looks near flawless.

You'd think that they wouldn't take pictures of a 15k+ card with a crappy camera

pcptrade · 03-18-2019, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjo1776

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-MIKE-T...nner=1&ul_ref=

Somebody landed a fake diamond for $350 yikes

Yes, It is a $5 reprint card. It is a shame that some sellers are scamming people by listing it as original without even mentioning "Reprint" in their title/description.

Soxfanguy · 03-18-2019, 12:08 PM

Get something like 27000 × 6000 resolution for a card like that

pete2345 · 03-18-2019, 12:47 PM

From what I have seen on the 11' updates, I have yet to see one.Where on the back of the card underneath the Topps logo where if the card was numbered such as gold,black or hope. The reprints seem to be white in that area,where as an original has a gray/silver box there.Has anyone else noticed that?

ThoseBackPages · 03-18-2019, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KB81

Mail day

Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance

Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now.

#ALLRISE!!!!!!

pcptrade · 03-18-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pete2345

From what I have seen on the 11' updates, I have yet to see one.Where on the back of the card underneath the Topps logo where if the card was numbered such as gold,black or hope. The reprints seem to be white in that area,where as an original has a gray/silver box there.Has anyone else noticed that?

The reprints either have the word reprint below Topps on the back or if there is no reprint below Topps, the trapezoid gray area below Topps in not well defined and sharp as in the original

The Angels logo and the Topps Diamond Anniversary logo on the reprints are also not as sharp/crisp as in the original. It is tough to say if they are reprints or not from ebay photos/scans based on the Angels logo and Topps Diamond logos but the Trapezoid area below Topps on the back is very useful in differentiating reprint vs original.

ORIGINAL

2011 Diamond Anniv Original by pcp trade, on Flickr

REPRINT

2011 Diamond Anniv Reprint by pcp trade, on Flickr

pete2345 · 03-18-2019, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

The reprints either have the word reprint below Topps on the back or if there is no reprint below Topps, the trapezoid gray area below Topps in not sharp as in the original

Yeah the ones that say reprint are pretty obvious.for the others that some sellers are trying pass off as originals.That trapezoid area is the only thing I can visually distinguish the difference from a reprint to an original.

wharfrat7624 · 03-18-2019, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KB81

Mail day

Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance

Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now.

Very nice KB!

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MBMiller25 · 03-18-2019, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KB81

Mail day

Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance

Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now.

The BC Refractor is a damn nice card! Congrats

moosetequila · 03-18-2019, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KB81

Thanks!

Still feel a bit uneasy. Most I ever spent on Judge was 1K and here I am spend more on Fish. Worth the risk though.

All hail FISH!

^^^ And that's a Fish Wrap!

03-18-2019, 10:05 AM	#2627
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,251	It is exceptionally difficult to prove a modern, unnumbered card is trimmed. Best you can get is circumstantial evidence where you show that the same user bought a card with damage, then a short while later sold a cleaner version of the card. There aren’t raw Target reds floating around anymore. The best trim candidates are those in BGS slabs with slight corner wear. __________________ I love PSA!

03-18-2019, 10:23 AM	#2628
Soxfanguy Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: White Sox Posts: 15,579 Soxfanguy	If you look at the edges you see a lot of white. Should have been a 8 or 9 __________________ ok

03-18-2019, 10:23 AM	#2629
Neal Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,831 1420sports	I love the pose on the 12 update - classic baseball card imo. I also believe the 2012 and 2013 Topps Museum cards are gaining notoriety with some really nice price points still on 2013 (which is the nicer one imo) Just my .02 Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk __________________ collecting vintage sports cards and Star Wars .... with a touch of modern and ultra modern

03-18-2019, 11:15 AM	#2635
KB81 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Norf Crackalacka Posts: 11,729	Mail day Thanks to ThoseBackPages and jjeanius for the teeth pulling and guidance Have an 11 Update and a 11 BC Ref PSA 10's now. __________________ IT IS WHAT IT IS AND IT AINT WHAT IT'S NOT - KB81

03-18-2019, 12:08 PM	#2643
Soxfanguy Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: White Sox Posts: 15,579 Soxfanguy	Get something like 27000 × 6000 resolution for a card like that __________________ ok Last edited by Soxfanguy; 03-18-2019 at 12:11 PM.

03-18-2019, 11:26 AM	#2639
jjo1776 Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: TX Posts: 2,858	https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-MIKE-T...nner=1&ul_ref= Somebody landed a fake diamond for $350 yikes

03-18-2019, 12:47 PM	#2644
pete2345 Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: Birthplace of Michael Jordan home of biggie smalls! Posts: 4,125	From what I have seen on the 11' updates, I have yet to see one.Where on the back of the card underneath the Topps logo where if the card was numbered such as gold,black or hope. The reprints seem to be white in that area,where as an original has a gray/silver box there.Has anyone else noticed that?