Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by hammertime

You don't pay the fees if you refund someone.

You did, until about 2 months ago.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/20/2...rs-controversy

As I noted above, because of COVID, they stopped. Yay pandemic!

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

He is willing to take less... I received a counteroffer of $5500

that's right in line with market. if you believe the first ten will hold value (and I do), that's a good purchase IMO

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

No. That wasn't going to happen. I could tell dude was panicking and wanted his money back. I had every intention of giving it back, but I wasn't going to get hit with $50 in Paypal fees. I would have offered him a partial refund less those fees. However, I decided to call Paypal up and confirm that they were still keeping 2.9% on refunds.

Spoke with a rep - during the COVID season, they're not keeping fees on refunds. So I refunded while I was online with a rep and no fees hit my account.

Don't know how long this is going to last though.

oh that's awesome! do you have to be proactive and call or will they just refund regardless? not sure if you know

[tnolan816]

Most recent data pull:

Current Comp of the Set 1-98: $18130 - 6/05/2020 9:00 AM Central

Previous Total Comp of the Set 1-98: $19104 - 6/04/2020 5:00 PM Central

Card # Artist Player Print Run Current Comp
1 Baller Ichiro 1334 1875
2 Rochester Koufax 1135 635
3 Naturel Robinson 1302 505
4 Ermsy Trout 2911 925
5 Fucci Ripken 1205 515
6 Saladeen Griffey 2504 540
7 Grotesk Gibson 1205 400
8 Chang Rivera 1617 385
9 JK5 Williams 1385 400
10 Cartoon Clemente 1844 380
11 Siff Brett 1227 405
12 Beck Gooden 1065 865
13 Shore Mattingly 1686 325
14 Vides Henderson 1221 385
15 Thiele Mays 1464 240
16 Oldmanalan Gwynn 1302 300
17 Efdot McGwire 1456 255
18 Jamieson Ryan 2623 225
19 Naturel Clemente 1819 140
20 Rochester Ripken 1576 195
21 Taylor Henderson 2104 140
22 Ermsy Ichiro 1972 370
23 Baller Thomas 2836 245
24 Grotesk Gwynn 1441 210
25 Beck Griffey 3707 150
26 Vides Gooden 1101 430
27 Efdot Mays 1480 200
28 Shore McGwire 1199 400
29 Saladeen Jeter 9873 75
30 Siff Ryan 2215 100
31 Chang Robinson 2741 75
32 JK5 Ichiro 1798 230
33 Jamieson Mattingly 2409 180
34 Fucci Williams 1131 350
35 Thiele Trout 13200 70
36 Oldmanalan Koufax 2488 95
37 Beck Ripken 2621 120
38 Ermsy Gooden 1864 240
39 Taylor Jeter 9322 45
40 Naturel Gwynn 2319 100
41 Vides Rivera 2452 100
42 Jamieson Robinson 2980 140
43 Cartoon Brett 2360 105
44 Rochester Thomas 1480 180
45 Grotesk Clemente 1910 120
46 Chang Gibson 1268 350
47 Saladeen Mattingly 2763 115
48 JK5 Mays 1556 160
49 Thiele Koufax 2149 150
50 Siff Ripken 2369 155
51 Baller Trout 34950 50
52 Efdot Ryan 4103 70
53 Taylor Griffey 4236 70
54 Shore Gibson 1451 300
55 Beck Brett 1992 120
56 Oldmanalan Rivera 1127 365
57 Jamieson Henderson 3819 100
58 Ermsy Williams 4859 80
59 Grotesk Jeter 6511 70
60 Naturel McGwire 2687 100
61 Saladeen Mays 5459 40
62 Chang Ichiro 6207 50
63 Fucci Trout 16430 35
64 Vides Gwynn 3368 80
65 Cartoon Gooden 5041 45
66 Rochester Griffey 9356 40
67 Thiele Ryan 7383 50
68 JK5 Clemente 8518 45
69 Siff Mattingly 7900 45
70 Beck Gibson 6757 60
71 Baller Henderson 15741 60
72 Shore Rivera 9545 35
73 Don C Thomas 11969 85
74 Efdot Williams 8897 60
75 Grotesk Brett 5638 65
76 Fucci Koufax 6607 55
77 Saladeen Ichiro 11425 40
78 Oldmanalan Clemente 8610 40
79 Cartoon Robinson 11643 35
80 Chang Mays 10480 65
81 Jamieson McGwire 18205 50
82 Thiele Jeter 20974 40
83 Taylor Thomas 8806 40
84 Ermsy Gibson 14867 40
85 Rochester Trout 33818 30
86 Baller Gooden 25928 25
87 Vides Ryan 64629 15
88 Shore Griffey 99177 15
89 Naturel Koufax 43147 18
90 Oldmanalan Williams 41407 22
91 JK5 Rivera 35330 19
92 Don C Ripken 41392 25
93 Siff Jeter 48465 23
94 Efdot Gwynn 31030 26
95 Cartoon Mattingly 27299 26
96 Fucci Thomas 22911 23
97 Thiele McGwire 19894 22
98 Vides Robinson 20219 21

Lots of talk about the floor, but it seems we still have downward momentum. I'm concerned that there aren't as many buyers on the secondary market as we think there are. I'm not seeing large enough volume on the earlier release cards to sustain their prices. I hope I'm wrong and we get some sort of marketing push soon, but near term I'm losing confidence in the current floor.

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

oh that's awesome! do you have to be proactive and call or will they just refund regardless? not sure if you know

They advised it should be automatic. The paypal rep stayed on the phone with me as I refunded through eBay to make sure it did do it automatically. It did.

[ThoseBackPages]

FRIDAY!!!!!!!!

[The Accountant]

Originally Posted by tnolan816

Most recent data pull:

Current Comp of the Set 1-98: $18130 - 6/05/2020 9:00 AM Central

Previous Total Comp of the Set 1-98: $19104 - 6/04/2020 5:00 PM Central

Card # Artist Player Print Run Current Comp
1 Baller Ichiro 1334 1875
2 Rochester Koufax 1135 635
3 Naturel Robinson 1302 505
4 Ermsy Trout 2911 925
5 Fucci Ripken 1205 515
6 Saladeen Griffey 2504 540
7 Grotesk Gibson 1205 400
8 Chang Rivera 1617 385
9 JK5 Williams 1385 400
10 Cartoon Clemente 1844 380
11 Siff Brett 1227 405
12 Beck Gooden 1065 865
13 Shore Mattingly 1686 325
14 Vides Henderson 1221 385
15 Thiele Mays 1464 240
16 Oldmanalan Gwynn 1302 300
17 Efdot McGwire 1456 255
18 Jamieson Ryan 2623 225
19 Naturel Clemente 1819 140
20 Rochester Ripken 1576 195
21 Taylor Henderson 2104 140
22 Ermsy Ichiro 1972 370
23 Baller Thomas 2836 245
24 Grotesk Gwynn 1441 210
25 Beck Griffey 3707 150
26 Vides Gooden 1101 430
27 Efdot Mays 1480 200
28 Shore McGwire 1199 400
29 Saladeen Jeter 9873 75
30 Siff Ryan 2215 100
31 Chang Robinson 2741 75
32 JK5 Ichiro 1798 230
33 Jamieson Mattingly 2409 180
34 Fucci Williams 1131 350
35 Thiele Trout 13200 70
36 Oldmanalan Koufax 2488 95
37 Beck Ripken 2621 120
38 Ermsy Gooden 1864 240
39 Taylor Jeter 9322 45
40 Naturel Gwynn 2319 100
41 Vides Rivera 2452 100
42 Jamieson Robinson 2980 140
43 Cartoon Brett 2360 105
44 Rochester Thomas 1480 180
45 Grotesk Clemente 1910 120
46 Chang Gibson 1268 350
47 Saladeen Mattingly 2763 115
48 JK5 Mays 1556 160
49 Thiele Koufax 2149 150
50 Siff Ripken 2369 155
51 Baller Trout 34950 50
52 Efdot Ryan 4103 70
53 Taylor Griffey 4236 70
54 Shore Gibson 1451 300
55 Beck Brett 1992 120
56 Oldmanalan Rivera 1127 365
57 Jamieson Henderson 3819 100
58 Ermsy Williams 4859 80
59 Grotesk Jeter 6511 70
60 Naturel McGwire 2687 100
61 Saladeen Mays 5459 40
62 Chang Ichiro 6207 50
63 Fucci Trout 16430 35
64 Vides Gwynn 3368 80
65 Cartoon Gooden 5041 45
66 Rochester Griffey 9356 40
67 Thiele Ryan 7383 50
68 JK5 Clemente 8518 45
69 Siff Mattingly 7900 45
70 Beck Gibson 6757 60
71 Baller Henderson 15741 60
72 Shore Rivera 9545 35
73 Don C Thomas 11969 85
74 Efdot Williams 8897 60
75 Grotesk Brett 5638 65
76 Fucci Koufax 6607 55
77 Saladeen Ichiro 11425 40
78 Oldmanalan Clemente 8610 40
79 Cartoon Robinson 11643 35
80 Chang Mays 10480 65
81 Jamieson McGwire 18205 50
82 Thiele Jeter 20974 40
83 Taylor Thomas 8806 40
84 Ermsy Gibson 14867 40
85 Rochester Trout 33818 30
86 Baller Gooden 25928 25
87 Vides Ryan 64629 15
88 Shore Griffey 99177 15
89 Naturel Koufax 43147 18
90 Oldmanalan Williams 41407 22
91 JK5 Rivera 35330 19
92 Don C Ripken 41392 25
93 Siff Jeter 48465 23
94 Efdot Gwynn 31030 26
95 Cartoon Mattingly 27299 26
96 Fucci Thomas 22911 23
97 Thiele McGwire 19894 22
98 Vides Robinson 20219 21

Thanks again for posting! I noticed the drop yesterday. Always going to be peeks and valleys with a long project like this. Still people liquidating. I've been targeting specific cards but there's just so much out there, I can't afford to spend much more until I start selling more.

[BigRhino]

Topps is shipping these out quickly now but with a drop in care. Received some cards that it appears the sticker was peeled off and reapplied, looks terrible. Also no bubble wrap around each card anymore, which is ok but from now on I'm only ordering personal copies of cards

[bshea]

Picked up the Grotesk Gibson. Love this! The Gibson is the card in the set I have the original of. A print run of a certain player is going to look so cool once it's all said and done.


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[Snakeonia]

Originally Posted by bshea

Picked up the Grotesk Gibson. Love this! The Gibson is the card in the set I have the original of. A print run of a certain player is going to look so cool once it's all said and done.


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Awesome


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[KB81]

Originally Posted by bshea

Picked up the Grotesk Gibson. Love this! The Gibson is the card in the set I have the original of. A print run of a certain player is going to look so cool once it's all said and done.


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Will be cool to see all the original cards side by side with the P2020 ones.
That would make a very nice display of 40 cards.

[gamboooler]

They started using bubble wrap again, at least on the cards I got in yesterday.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by KB81

Will be cool to see all the original cards side by side with the P2020 ones.
That would make a very nice display of 40 cards.

I can't decide if I should get the original cards or not. Trout is obv a lot, but I think I only have Griffey, McGwire, Thomas, Jeter, Ichiro. I'm starting to lean more towards the "I'm going to treat this like art" vs a them being a baseball card. I might make collages of 20 of an artist and hang it up on the wall

[ZiggySQ]

Originally Posted by shu4040

Solid




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That was me, glad i kept all of my Taylors! Going to look incredible when all put together.

[ThoseBackPages]

my Fucci Trout had the wrap

[gmoney328]

Originally Posted by bshea

Picked up the Grotesk Gibson. Love this! The Gibson is the card in the set I have the original of. A print run of a certain player is going to look so cool once it's all said and done.


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That looks great. I also think the Ermsy Gibson is going to look very good with the original.

It seems the Gibson is heading towards being one of the coolest pairings of the series so far. There's been some great ones. Beck's is awesome as well.

[JRX]

Another Chang Rivera

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Topps-PROJE...sAAOSw7Rdezpiv

[KB81]

Originally Posted by JRX

I can't decide if I should get the original cards or not. Trout is obv a lot, but I think I only have Griffey, McGwire, Thomas, Jeter, Ichiro. I'm starting to lean more towards the "I'm going to treat this like art" vs a them being a baseball card. I might make collages of 20 of an artist and hang it up on the wall

As a card collector - do it!
As a art collector - I can see the internal debate. You can get the originals, just get them in low grades so they are cheap.

I myself am pondering it since I will have the Blake and Ermsy set.

[BigRhino]

Originally Posted by gamboooler

They started using bubble wrap again, at least on the cards I got in yesterday.

Ok good to hear, maybe its some of the ppl shipping are rushing and others doing a better job, have a ton headed my way so hope it improves. The Ted Williams Ermsy 's I received were immaculate

[WhiteSoxJosh]

I think Siff is the most underrated artist in the set. Love the Ripken. Now I just need to get one at a good price.


Ready to take off fellas??!!

[JRX]

Originally Posted by KB81

As a card collector - do it!
As a art collector - I can see the internal debate. You can get the originals, just get them in low grades so they are cheap.

I myself am pondering it since I will have the Blake and Ermsy set.

I wouldn't really add in the original cards, just have a set of say 20 Saladeen, 20 Blake, 20 Taylor etc. Its partly going to depend how it all looks, but I do need wall art.

[KB81]

Originally Posted by JRX

I wouldn't really add in the original cards, just have a set of say 20 Saladeen, 20 Blake, 20 Taylor etc. Its partly going to depend how it all looks, but I do need wall art.

[Soxfanguy]

Anymore cards ship after Don C Thomas?

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

Anymore cards ship after Don C Thomas?

i dont know

[Bob Loblaw]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i dont know

Then why respond? Is your post count that important?

Let someone who may have received card 74 chime in.