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Old 01-18-2025, 08:25 PM   #26951
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An UNUSUAL example from PSA25 (The best 25 PSA-graded cards from 2000 and counting),

https://www.psacard.com/cert/23839780



https://www.psacard.com/cert/11147013

100%, additionally it's one of the "fine-tip" auto examples. Wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole (if it were in my price range hah).
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Old 01-18-2025, 08:30 PM   #26952
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I suppose that's a nice thing about Heritage autos. Its probably a lot more difficult to "wipe" a bad auto and get them resigned than these chrome cards.
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Old 01-18-2025, 08:55 PM   #26953
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It's just super ironic that the re-signed (or forged) red BCA made that list.
I'm unfamiliar with the backstory on this... can we share?
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Old 01-18-2025, 08:59 PM   #26954
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It'd be so simple for a card company to have an image database that they shared with PSA for every numbered auto and patch card to stop nonsense like this. The fact that they don't do it tells me they don't care.
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Old 01-18-2025, 09:11 PM   #26955
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I'm unfamiliar with the backstory on this... can we share?
The BCA pitching red had a known streaky copy. In 2021, the referenced card magically popped up with a 2020-21 version signature. Sho's signature in 2013-2018 never featured that style. And to make it worse, he only signed that exact way for sticker autos. Educated guess is that someone less informed wiped the auto and traced a sticker auto from the wrong "era."

It's also possible Sho re-signed it, but it being his sticker auto stroke casts some reasonable doubt. At the very least, that autograph is not from 2018.

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Old 01-18-2025, 09:13 PM   #26956
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Old 01-18-2025, 09:26 PM   #26957
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$280 for a 2024 sapphire PSA 10 on eBay tonight...absurd.
One ended tonight at $350.
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Old 01-18-2025, 09:27 PM   #26958
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LOW POP Bro! haha
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Old 01-18-2025, 09:29 PM   #26959
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i won two PSA 9s last week for 66 and 76 each i think it was
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Old 01-18-2025, 09:33 PM   #26960
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Old 01-18-2025, 10:22 PM   #26961
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It's really hard to avoid fomo buying with Sho as +180 odds to win MVP on a team with five SP1s, but base is not the right way .

After surveying the scene, I caved and bought my first dodgers on-card auto and a popular low # insert. Don't worry, it's PC. #invest
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Old 01-18-2025, 10:27 PM   #26963
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I hope he returns, preferably in-season on a Sho off-day.
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I hope he returns, preferably in-season on a Sho off-day.
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Old 01-18-2025, 11:18 PM   #26965
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The BCA pitching red had a known streaky copy. In 2021, the referenced card magically popped up with a 2020-21 version signature. Sho's signature in 2013-2018 never featured that style. And to make it worse, he only signed that exact way for sticker autos. Educated guess is that someone less informed wiped the auto and traced a sticker auto from the wrong "era."

It's also possible Sho re-signed it, but it being his sticker auto stroke casts some reasonable doubt. At the very least, that autograph is not from 2018.
Interesting... thank you for the knowledge. Having one less legit copy out there is terribly disappointing.
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Old 01-18-2025, 11:26 PM   #26966
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Omg, yeah I didn't initially notice that the Red has a newer-gen signature Also, that card has sold at least 4 times since 2021.
What am I missing. Are we talking about the Red on this page? It looks like his first auto to me.
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Old 01-19-2025, 12:19 AM   #26967
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Honestly, if members on this forum, can pick apart Shohei's auto, history and progression, I'm pretty dismayed (but not surprised) PSA's auto experts are not up to snuff.

They should be hiring TB for consultation and some continuing education classes at the very least!
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Old 01-19-2025, 12:31 AM   #26968
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What am I missing. Are we talking about the Red on this page? It looks like his first auto to me.
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The BCA pitching red had a known streaky copy. In 2021, the referenced card magically popped up with a 2020-21 version signature. Sho's signature in 2013-2018 never featured that style. And to make it worse, he only signed that exact way for sticker autos. Educated guess is that someone less informed wiped the auto and traced a sticker auto from the wrong "era."

It's also possible Sho re-signed it, but it being his sticker auto stroke casts some reasonable doubt. At the very least, that autograph is not from 2018.
CORRECT AUTOs (2018)



DIFFERENT AUTO (?)

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Yup. Pretty easy to understand when viewed like this.


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Old 01-19-2025, 12:42 AM   #26970
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Yup. Pretty easy to understand when viewed like this.


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Old 01-19-2025, 01:51 AM   #26971
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Here is a sticker auto. Looks like the one on the Bowman Red.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KikAA...t/s-l1600.webp
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Here is a sticker auto. Looks like the one on the Bowman Red.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KikAA...t/s-l1600.webp
This is the one. Sticker from 2020-21 timeframe used on a 2022 product



And also one from 2021


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Longtime Dodgers collector with $500 in fantasy football winnings set aside for my first mid-range Ohtani. Only have a few nice rookie commons.

There are people with good taste in Ohtani cards here. What card would you recommend for $500? Especially if in Dodger uniform.
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Longtime Dodgers collector with $500 in fantasy football winnings set aside for my first mid-range Ohtani. Only have a few nice rookie commons.

There are people with good taste in Ohtani cards here. What card would you recommend for $500? Especially if in Dodger uniform.
For RCs, a 2018 Topps 700 Rainbow Foil in a PSA 10.

For Dodger cards, the 2024 Topps Chrome Lightboard Logo is pretty cool. Dodgers cards will likely be much more affordable down the road.
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Judging by the PSA cert number, it looks like it has been at least graded for a few years

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