First Buzz: 2020 Topps Heritage baseball cards + SP galleries

[smanzari]

Not sure if you guys saw this or not:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/2020-Topp...ards/612597931

[chezball]

Originally Posted by Soxrule111

He has to get his +1, then +2 in every thread.

more like 100.

[IndySportsCards]

I wish Topps could make Heritage for Basketball. That would be so cool.

[smapdi]

Originally Posted by kyle121592

80/20 would be 2.4 autos per case....so you are pretty close

FWIW, the last case I opened was 2018, and it had 2 Real Ones plus a Pilots auto. Although the Pilot guy's major league career was about 10 games long, so maybe that should only count as the .4.

[knuckleballerMC]

Been considering going in on a case of Heritage … those who know better than me: Is it worth it at the current price point? Is that price more likely to rise or fall going forward?

[dizzydolse]

Originally Posted by knuckleballerMC

Been considering going in on a case of Heritage … those who know better than me: Is it worth it at the current price point? Is that price more likely to rise or fall going forward?

I would say fall for sure but who knows anymore. I feel like the big sellers really have perfected creating a false sense of scarcity and manipulating prices of the more popular releases with ease.

I love Blowout and I'm honestly glad they are running an exceptional business, they really do a great job. It's tough for guys who don't break on a large scale and profit off of group breaking. The presale price of Heritage this year is absurd to me, as was the price of Series 1. At the same time, I had every opportunity to lock in at lower prices. How series 1 went from $550 to $850 in one day, I will never understand. Maybe the demand is really there these days.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

I wish Topps could make Heritage for Basketball. That would be so cool.

2001 and 2002 I think. I don’t beleive the product did well.

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

I wish Topps could make Heritage for Basketball. That would be so cool.

They also did Topps Archives Basketball in 1992 I think.

It featured cards of players from the 1980's in the baseball design of the corresponding year.

[UGLI baby]

How many master sets could I expect to build from 3 cases? First time doing cases of Heritage.

[Stech36]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

How many master sets could I expect to build from 3 cases? First time doing cases of Heritage.

Unless Topps changed something, You should 100% get 1 full master set. You’re likely to get another give or take a couple cards and a third that’s very close to full. Unless you get unlucky and get the same inserts in all your cases

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by Stech36

Unless Topps changed something, You should 100% get 1 full master set. You’re likely to get another give or take a couple cards and a third that’s very close to full. Unless you get unlucky and get the same inserts in all your cases

Ok cool, thanks!

[Stech36]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

Ok cool, thanks!

To be more specific, if it’s like the past couple years:

You get 96/100 SP’s per case. Sometimes there are a few doubles so you might only get 92 different cards and a few duplicates.

You’ll get all of most of the insert sets. The last few years the duo cards have been sets of 15 and you only get 12/case. The other insert sets you’ll probably only miss a card or two.

[UGLI baby]

Ok thanks, so will likely just need to do a few trades to get to 3 Master sets. Looking forward to this release! Such a cool design. Curious how the black cards will affect grading/pop reports.

[tonye82]

Has anyone seen images yet of the 2020 Heritage hobby box? I know the blasters are up but always get excited seeing the images of the hobby box.

[knuckleballerMC]

Originally Posted by dizzydolse

I would say fall for sure but who knows anymore. I feel like the big sellers really have perfected creating a false sense of scarcity and manipulating prices of the more popular releases with ease.

I love Blowout and I'm honestly glad they are running an exceptional business, they really do a great job. It's tough for guys who don't break on a large scale and profit off of group breaking. The presale price of Heritage this year is absurd to me, as was the price of Series 1. At the same time, I had every opportunity to lock in at lower prices. How series 1 went from $550 to $850 in one day, I will never understand. Maybe the demand is really there these days.

Thanks for the input. Perhaps I'll just stick to a hobby box or two - I've been out of the hobby for a couple years, so I too was a little surprised at the price point.

[atomic619jd]

Originally Posted by knuckleballerMC

Thanks for the input. Perhaps I'll just stick to a hobby box or two - I've been out of the hobby for a couple years, so I too was a little surprised at the price point.

I love Heritage and it's one of my favorite products to break over the past few years... but just like Series 1 and Bowman, I'm priced out of cases now. Price points are just too high for me. I guess I need to find a new hobby

[HarryLime]

Originally Posted by dizzydolse

I would say fall for sure but who knows anymore. I feel like the big sellers really have perfected creating a false sense of scarcity and manipulating prices of the more popular releases with ease.

I love Blowout and I'm honestly glad they are running an exceptional business, they really do a great job. It's tough for guys who don't break on a large scale and profit off of group breaking. The presale price of Heritage this year is absurd to me, as was the price of Series 1. At the same time, I had every opportunity to lock in at lower prices. How series 1 went from $550 to $850 in one day, I will never understand. Maybe the demand is really there these days.

I smell what you're stepping in. I feel like the distros just dribble out a little at a time in order to keep prices high and the perception of rarity in preponderance.

The more they can sell higher than the original buy-in orice means the more they can scurry away for future years for free. Why sell something at $70/box when they can wait a year or two and sell it for $200+/box?

Distros are the worst.

Arthur

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

I wish Topps could make Heritage for Basketball. That would be so cool.

Topps did Heritage for Basketball, Hockey, and Football back between 2000-2003, when it had licenses for all four sports.

That's impossible now because they only hold the license for MLB.

What I would like to see is an Archives/Heritage-type product utilizing Topps' old basketball/hockey/football designs.

They've used them occasionally for inserts in Archives, like the 71-72 Hockey inserts set, the 71-72 basketball insert set, and the 1965 Football insert set.

[Soxfanguy]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Topps did Heritage for Basketball, Hockey, and Football back between 2000-2003, when it had licenses for all four sports.

That's impossible now because they only hold the license for MLB.

What I would like to see is an Archives/Heritage-type product utilizing Topps' old basketball/hockey/football designs.

They've used them occasionally for inserts in Archives, like the 71-72 Hockey inserts set, the 71-72 basketball insert set, and the 1965 Football insert set.

They do it somewhat with the TBT sets

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Stech36

You get 96/100 SP’s per case.

And that's precisely what has become ridiculous about wax prices and the hobby. You can spend roughly $1000 on a case and still not get a complete 1-500 Heritage set.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Soxfanguy

They do it somewhat with the TBT sets

Yeah, but that's only six cards per set.....

[Cardsfan84]

Originally Posted by dizzydolse

I would say fall for sure but who knows anymore. I feel like the big sellers really have perfected creating a false sense of scarcity and manipulating prices of the more popular releases with ease.

I love Blowout and I'm honestly glad they are running an exceptional business, they really do a great job. It's tough for guys who don't break on a large scale and profit off of group breaking. The presale price of Heritage this year is absurd to me, as was the price of Series 1. At the same time, I had every opportunity to lock in at lower prices. How series 1 went from $550 to $850 in one day, I will never understand. Maybe the demand is really there these days.

I think BO capitalizes on people that have money to burn and have FOMO. Otherwise people would just go to eBay and buy cases for $150 less. Every release this can be done.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Cardsfan84

I think BO capitalizes on people that have money to burn and have FOMO. Otherwise people would just go to eBay and buy cases for $150 less. Every release this can be done.

if they arrive, sure

[Cardsfan84]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

if they arrive, sure

I've bought from reputable sellers and never had an issue. I have heard of the stories though.

[smapdi]

I'm bracing for that, myself. Preordered a case back in November for under $900. The seller had good FB, but no history of preselling product. They've since gotten FB for Update presales, but I'm waiting for the runaround. Considered backstopping with another case from a more established wax seller, probably can resell it easily if the original seller comes through, and provided I don't break down and open it. Just getting too hyped for Heritage this year.