OFFICIAL Blowout Redrafter's Dynasty League Thread

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Homerun

Prime Quintana was a stud and an asset in a dynasty league like this one. In the year 2024 though? Yeah, not sure about that.

Trade wasn't about Quintana but sure let's focus on that

[Homerun]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Trade wasn't about Quintana but sure let's focus on that

I know, I was just replying to what Hollywood said. As far as that whole trade goes, I do think Seth wins for now but both Bieber and Lewis do have significant injury concerns. Really hinges on whether or not Abbott ends up being a stud. He definitely could.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Homerun

I know, I was just replying to what Hollywood said. As far as that whole trade goes, I do think Seth wins for now but both Bieber and Lewis do have significant injury concerns. Really hinges on whether or not Abbott ends up being a stud. He definitely could.

Meant to double quote sorry.. just to make the point that it's not about Quintana like at all. It could end up being a wash. Bieber keeps losing velocity, Lewis keeps getting hurt, Abbott doesn't keep developing. But I still get Hays. I will take the chance based on the thoughts I posted earlier.

[Chris Lyle]

Sorry for being a little snarky about the trade, but when it's posted that someone is fleecing it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Kind of gives the perception that a trade was dirty or something

[Hollywood42]

I didn't even consider Quintana in my original comment because he was irrelevant IMO, so we agree on that

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Meant to double quote sorry.. just to make the point that it's not about Quintana like at all. It could end up being a wash. Bieber keeps losing velocity, Lewis keeps getting hurt, Abbott doesn't keep developing. But I still get Hays. I will take the chance based on the thoughts I posted earlier.

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Trade wasn't about Quintana but sure let's focus on that

Just commenting on a trade I thought was leaning one way. Idk why you'd take that as suggesting "dirty" - it's January and trades are the only thing to talk about

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

Sorry for being a little snarky about the trade, but when it's posted that someone is fleecing it just kind of rubs me the wrong way. Kind of gives the perception that a trade was dirty or something

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

I didn't even consider Quintana in my original comment because he was irrelevant IMO, so we agree on that






Just commenting on a trade I thought was leaning one way. Idk why you'd take that as suggesting "dirty" - it's January and trades are the only thing to talk about

In hindsight never should have responded. But alas I did, I apologize. I shouldn't allow comments bother me, but I did. I just look at some comments a little different than some. Again I apologize.

[pcarlson05]

Wrong league. Sorry.

[Homerun]

Still looking to acquire either a quality 2B or SS. Mostly want to use pieces from my minor league team to get this done so I’m a good trade partner with anyone who is looking to make their team younger.

Jackson Jobe
Jacob Misiorowski
Ben Brown
Marcelo Mayer
Max Meyer
Cristian Mena
Zac Veen

Could also move guys like Dean Kremer or Michael Wacha if anyone needs SP depth. Jeremy Peña available too.

[Chris Lyle]

Salvador Perez
Giancarlo Stanton
Willy Adames
Rowdy Tellez
Tyler Anderson
Graham Ashcraft
Clayton Beeter
Blaze Jordan
Michael Grove
Jared Shuster
Alex Verdugo

Still looking to rebuild some more...

[Chris Lyle]

In my deal with 7Jac,

I receive his 5th rd pick MLB Draft

He receives my 3rd rd pick MLB Draft

[7jacfire]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

In my deal with 7Jac,

I receive his 5th rd pick MLB Draft

He receives my 3rd rd pick MLB Draft

Confirmed

[Eckstein197]

Back in

[Eckstein197]

Roster fully updated for me

[SethMurphy]

Shopping

Jacob deGrom is available
Ronny Mauricio
Bryan de la Cruz
Ryan Pressly
Jason Adam
Alex Cobb
MINORS
Joey Cantillo
Wilmer Flores
Robert Gasser
Jared Jones
Ben Joyce
Ty Madden
Will Warren
Carson Whisenhunt

could be talked into a bigger name but want to not mess too much with the core. SP is always a focus, OF a little too.

[Hollywood42]

I'm assuming everyone who has posted here in the last week or two is back for 2024. Sending PMs out to those we haven't seen yet (just Todder) to double check if they're in

It's also time to officially vote on a few rule changes. Context and opening discussions for these is quoted below

Handling unowned prospect additions when first called up
Targeted at closing the trend of a rush to the prospect thread for a free add upon announcement of an unowned prospect being promoted to the majors. Proposal: After official announcement (from team account, national or local reporter, etc) of a prospect being called up to the majors, player may only be added to an ESPN roster. They may still be demoted to prospect roster afterwards if owner so chooses, but this at least forces a team to use a weekly acquisition add on them

In favor - 9 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth, Gum, Chitty, Gum, Jac, Corner)
Not in favor - 0

Vote passes with a majority

Abandoned prospect over limits
Targeted at putting in a black and white rule for handling a prospect over limits but whose owner does not address it. Proposal: Owners have 1 week from alert being posted in prospect thread and a PM being sent to promote a prospect over limits. If the week passes without a move, that prospect will be placed on the ineligible list and may not be picked up by any team until next year's draft. We had some discussion of the player being placed on waivers, but I think holding until the next draft (the way Road to Glory works) is more fair

In favor - 7 (Hollywood, Chris, Chitty, Gum, Jac, Corner, Ray)
Not in favor - 1 (Seth)

Vote passes with a majority

Prospect promotions and weekly acquisition limit
Proposal: Promoting a prospect to your ESPN roster should require use of one of your weekly acquisitions. To help with this, the weekly acquisition limit should be bumped up to 3 adds per week (up 1 from the current limit of 2)

In favor - 8 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth, Chitty, Gum, Jac, Corner)

Vote passes with a majority


All votes noted above were taken from comments in the last 2 pages since this was brought up that explicitly agreed with the given proposals, but if any voter has since changed their mind, please let me know

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

-Should we continue to allow adding prospects to be added to prospect rosters without any restrictions? In current form the openness is allowing teams to come in and add a guy getting called up to their minors roster as soon as news breaks of the promotion. This happens pretty regularly throughout the season and to me feels a little exploitive, allows someone who got the notification first to add them at no risk and without using a major league acquisition

If we did change this I'd propose something like my Road to Glory league where we don't allow prospects to be added to prospect rosters outside of the draft, but we also have a midseason prospect draft during the All-Star break where you can drop players in order to get draft picks in this special draft. If we did this, we would also need to decide if the latest MLB draftees are eligible in the midseason draft or if they must wait to be added until the next offseason draft. And an edge case would be players like Nolan Schanuel who are drafted and make their MLB debut in the same season - can they be added to MLB rosters either?

Another related topic would be if we should still allow players to be demoted from majors/ESPN roster to prospect rosters

I will also recognize that I have gotten not as good in recent years about keeping prospect rosters up to date, and this would help me a lot with that, too


-Protocol for handling prospects over limits if team does not address. i.e. if I have a prospect over limits, how long do I have until I need to make a decision, and what happens after that point if still not addressed? I would propose if you don't address them 1 week from a post in the thread noting the situation, they are dropped from your roster and placed on the ineligible list (cannot be added to majors or minors roster) until the next offseason draft - I would want to think through this a little more but that's the first quick solution that comes to mind


-Should prospect promotions require use of one of your MLB acquisitions in ESPN? And should we up the weekly acquisitions per week? It is currently set to 2. I would vote yes, a prospect promotion should require an acquisition, and if we do that, I'm fine with bumping the weekly limit to 3

[chittychitty844]

Voting in favor of all three rules changes

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

I'm assuming everyone who has posted here in the last week or two is back for 2024. Sending PMs out to those we haven't seen yet (just Todder) to double check if they're in

It's also time to officially vote on a few rule changes. Context and opening discussions for these is quoted below

Handling unowned prospect additions when first called up
Targeted at closing the trend of a rush to the prospect thread for a free add upon announcement of an unowned prospect being promoted to the majors. Proposal: After official announcement (from team account, national or local reporter, etc) of a prospect being called up to the majors, player may only be added to an ESPN roster. They may still be demoted to prospect roster afterwards if owner so chooses, but this at least forces a team to use a weekly acquisition add on them

In favor - 5 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth, Gum)
Not in favor - 0

2 more in favor votes needed for a majority

Abandoned prospect over limits
Targeted at putting in a black and white rule for handling a prospect over limits but whose owner does not address it. Proposal: Owners have 1 week from alert being posted in prospect thread and a PM being sent to promote a prospect over limits. If the week passes without a move, that prospect will be placed on the ineligible list and may not be picked up by any team until next year's draft. We had some discussion of the player being placed on waivers, but I think holding until the next draft (the way Road to Glory works) is more fair

In favor - 2 (Hollywood, Chris)
Not in favor - 0

6 more in favor votes needed for a majority

Prospect promotions and weekly acquisition limit
Proposal: Promoting a prospect to your ESPN roster should require use of one of your weekly acquisitions. To help with this, the weekly acquisition limit should be bumped up to 3 adds per week (up 1 from the current limit of 2)

In favor - 4 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth)

3 more in favor votes needed for a majority


All votes noted above were taken from comments in the last 2 pages since this was brought up that explicitly agreed with the given proposals, but if any voter has since changed their mind, please let me know

[chittychitty844]

Looking for picks/ SP/ 3b…open to talking any position


Turner
Muncy
Kwan
Santander
Varsho
Pasquantino
Trout
Verlander
Romano
Chapman
Sanchez
Clevinger
Morton
Diaz
Bednar

Kumar
Hurts
Murphy
Wilcox
Martinez

[SethMurphy]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Abandoned prospect over limits
Targeted at putting in a black and white rule for handling a prospect over limits but whose owner does not address it. Proposal: Owners have 1 week from alert being posted in prospect thread and a PM being sent to promote a prospect over limits. If the week passes without a move, that prospect will be placed on the ineligible list and may not be picked up by any team until next year's draft. We had some discussion of the player being placed on waivers, but I think holding until the next draft (the way Road to Glory works) is more fair

In favor - 3 (Hollywood, Chris, Chitty)
Not in favor - 0

4 more in favor votes needed for a majority

I am not in favor of this. I don't think prospects over limits should just be removed from the player pool until the next offseason. They should be made available to the league using the waiver priority.
One mass PM is sent out saying Player A is available, everyone has 24 hours from the point to respond to Hollywood if they want to claim, he uses league waiver order to award player, who must be added using a major league add.
If you have no more moves for the week, you don't get the player, next in line does. If no one claims, player goes to FA and is available to anyone

But just taking good, young players out of the league's pool isn't good

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

I am not in favor of this. I don't think prospects over limits should just be removed from the player pool until the next offseason. They should be made available to the league using the waiver priority.
One mass PM is sent out saying Player A is available, everyone has 24 hours from the point to respond to Hollywood if they want to claim, he uses league waiver order to award player, who must be added using a major league add.
If you have no more moves for the week, you don't get the player, next in line does. If no one claims, player goes to FA and is available to anyone

But just taking good, young players out of the league's pool isn't good

So you just hand good young players to someone who happens to be at the top of the waiver wire?

[SethMurphy]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

So you just hand good young players to someone who happens to be at the top of the waiver wire?

It creates the strategy that you need to be smart with your waiver claims during the season. If they are just going to be held until the draft, it only rewards the bad teams because they will just become top draft picks the next season.

There is no good system for this in ESPN's league setup unfortunately. Other sites would allow minors slots, and force promotion when the player is no longer minors eligible. But this also is a discussion for why FAAB or waiver pickups only are better than open free agency. In our system the waiver order rarely changes because FA is always open.

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by SethMurphy

It creates the strategy that you need to be smart with your waiver claims during the season. If they are just going to be held until the draft, it only rewards the bad teams because they will just become top draft picks the next season.

There is no good system for this in ESPN's league setup unfortunately. Other sites would allow minors slots, and force promotion when the player is no longer minors eligible. But this also is a discussion for why FAAB or waiver pickups only are better than open free agency. In our system the waiver order rarely changes because FA is always open.

I get what you are saying, but still think that it's rewarding someone that happens to be at the top of the waiver wire and I would rather it be someone that has to spend a draft pick on that person other than dumb luck.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

I'm assuming everyone who has posted here in the last week or two is back for 2024. Sending PMs out to those we haven't seen yet (just Todder) to double check if they're in

It's also time to officially vote on a few rule changes. Context and opening discussions for these is quoted below

Handling unowned prospect additions when first called up
Targeted at closing the trend of a rush to the prospect thread for a free add upon announcement of an unowned prospect being promoted to the majors. Proposal: After official announcement (from team account, national or local reporter, etc) of a prospect being called up to the majors, player may only be added to an ESPN roster. They may still be demoted to prospect roster afterwards if owner so chooses, but this at least forces a team to use a weekly acquisition add on them

In favor - 6 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth, Gum, Chitty)
Not in favor - 0

1 more in favor votes needed for a majority

Abandoned prospect over limits
Targeted at putting in a black and white rule for handling a prospect over limits but whose owner does not address it. Proposal: Owners have 1 week from alert being posted in prospect thread and a PM being sent to promote a prospect over limits. If the week passes without a move, that prospect will be placed on the ineligible list and may not be picked up by any team until next year's draft. We had some discussion of the player being placed on waivers, but I think holding until the next draft (the way Road to Glory works) is more fair

In favor - 3 (Hollywood, Chris, Chitty)
Not in favor - 1 (Seth)

4 more in favor votes needed for a majority

Prospect promotions and weekly acquisition limit
Proposal: Promoting a prospect to your ESPN roster should require use of one of your weekly acquisitions. To help with this, the weekly acquisition limit should be bumped up to 3 adds per week (up 1 from the current limit of 2)

In favor - 5 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth, Chitty)

4 more in favor votes needed for a majority


All votes noted above were taken from comments in the last 2 pages since this was brought up that explicitly agreed with the given proposals, but if any voter has since changed their mind, please let me know

In favor of all 3.

[Hollywood42]

Prospect add rules officially pass with a majority

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

Handling unowned prospect additions when first called up
Targeted at closing the trend of a rush to the prospect thread for a free add upon announcement of an unowned prospect being promoted to the majors. Proposal: After official announcement (from team account, national or local reporter, etc) of a prospect being called up to the majors, player may only be added to an ESPN roster. They may still be demoted to prospect roster afterwards if owner so chooses, but this at least forces a team to use a weekly acquisition add on them

In favor - 7 (Hollywood, 88UD, Chris, Seth, Gum, Chitty, Gum)
Not in favor - 0

Vote passes with a majority

[todderfield]

Apologize for not checking in sooner, im back.

[7jacfire]

In favor of all proposals.