✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹ - Page 1121

JohnnyHatesJazz · 03-27-2025, 08:44 PM

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ThoseBackPages may never wear pants again if this continues!!

Tbp is a trend setter. That might catch on.

NYRE2PECT · 03-27-2025, 08:54 PM

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Tbp is a trend setter. That might catch on.

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punctilious · 03-27-2025, 09:02 PM

Solid showing tonight.

To celebrate, tonight I acquired Sho's first PSA graded copy of his 2025 Flagship True Photo (gotta love PSA vault transfers).

I think this will go really well side by side with my copy of his 2024 Flagship True Photo which I still need to send out for grading.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 03-27-2025, 09:04 PM

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lol, let’s hope not.

NYBBFAN · 03-27-2025, 09:11 PM

Very cool true photos. So clean!

tgriffey30 · 03-27-2025, 09:28 PM

[QUOTE=punctilious;19859208]Solid showing tonight.

To celebrate, tonight I acquired Sho's first PSA graded copy of his 2025 Flagship True Photo (gotta love PSA vault transfers).

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You outbid me, jumped like $100 in the final seconds

JMStang · 03-27-2025, 09:30 PM

Pulled my first numbered Ohtani! 2021 Bowman neon green /399

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here2havefun · 03-27-2025, 09:46 PM

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Pulled my first numbered Ohtani! 2021 Bowman neon green /399

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Sweet! Cool card.

JMStang · 03-27-2025, 09:47 PM

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Sweet! Cool card.

Thanks!

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Trueblue · 03-27-2025, 10:25 PM

Hard not to feel like this is the year Sho cements dodger legend status with a MVP/Playoff Hero/TWP trifecta.

Spoken to a lot of five figure card buyers and it feels like a lot are waiting for prices to come down, but also not taking any chances after experiencing an upward arrow straight through 2024 and into 2025. Sho's one of the few guys (and the only non-rookie year guy) that not only absorbed the monstrous supply from Topps, but outpaced it.

Qubits · 03-27-2025, 10:51 PM

Getting that 4th MVP puts him 2nd only to Bonds. Yeah, yeah, yeah many will say this is already priced in but it was probably already priced in with Trout and we saw how that turned out. Actually having it happen would probably increase his floor a good bit imo.

ThoseBackPages · 03-27-2025, 11:03 PM

speaking in general the whole "baked in" thing is beyond me

cards cost what they cost. want to own it? buy it!

imbluestreak23 · 03-28-2025, 12:11 AM

I do love that this still happens from time to time

GabrielCards · 03-28-2025, 04:57 AM

I never get anyone who says that a price for a player has some "distant future accomplishment" already "factored in" lol. I think that prices for a player are based on the market (supply and demand) right now...at this point in time. (People have already said that Bobby Witt's prices have already factored in the MVP award that he is going to win this year. Ridiculous). With that said...Ohtani prices have lots of room to keep moving upwards.

KhalDrogo · 03-28-2025, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielCards

I never get anyone who says that a price for a player has some "distant future accomplishment" already "factored in" lol. I think that prices for a player are based on the market (supply and demand) right now...at this point in time. (People have already said that Bobby Witt's prices have already factored in the MVP award that he is going to win this year. Ridiculous). With that said...Ohtani prices have lots of room to keep moving upwards.

It’s no different than any individual stock. Investors price in future earnings expectations. Ohtani buyers are pricing in future accolade expectations.

GabrielCards · 03-28-2025, 05:26 AM

Eh I don't buy it. Then how come his prices went up a good bit after the 50 50 feat? They forgot to "price that in" earlier in the season? Whatever they think they are "pricing in" IMO current Ohtani prices are still not even close to what their peak can be.

KhalDrogo · 03-28-2025, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GabrielCards

Eh I don't buy it. Then how come his prices went up a good bit after the 50 50 feat? They forgot to "price that in" earlier in the season? Whatever they think they are "pricing in" IMO current Ohtani prices are still not even close to what their peak can be.

Because 50/50 wasn’t a generally priced in expectation. If he hits 80 HRs this year, obviously his cards are going up because he’s beat expectations.

I think people are pricing in 500 HRs, a couple more MVPs, and a couple more WS rings. Anything more is great. And he has so many tools that he is very capable of doing more.

GabrielCards · 03-28-2025, 05:45 AM

All right so if he wins a 4th MVP...and pitches again..and wins another WS his prices don't move since these are all expectations? I will take that bet right now.

Twalk1975 · 03-28-2025, 06:27 AM

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All right so if he wins a 4th MVP...and pitches again..and wins another WS his prices don't move since these are all expectations? I will take that bet right now.

A fourth MVP could be 10% priced in now, 50% priced in by the ASG if all is going well, and 100% by November. If that happens people will begin pricing in a fifth at say, 10%.

KhalDrogo · 03-28-2025, 07:47 AM

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All right so if he wins a 4th MVP...and pitches again..and wins another WS his prices don't move since these are all expectations? I will take that bet right now.

What’s your metric for measuring price move? Which card or cards?

Yes, I think the expectations are so sky high and his cards so expensive that it will be hard to get meaningful upward movement this year for most cards in the absence of a major personal achievement like 60 HRs.

NYRE2PECT · 03-28-2025, 07:54 AM

Price index less.

Collect more.

GabrielCards · 03-28-2025, 08:13 AM

You could be right - time will tell. Lets track the Bowman Chrome Ref as a base. Now that is selling in the 6K to 6.3K range.

I do think that the more limited high end cards will appreciate more.

hammertime · 03-28-2025, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Price index less.

Collect more.

punctilious · 03-28-2025, 09:12 AM

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You outbid me, jumped like $100 in the final seconds

There will be more!

tgriffey30 · 03-28-2025, 09:15 AM

This is true. Congrats on the addition.

03-27-2025, 09:02 PM	#28003
punctilious Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 442	Solid showing tonight. To celebrate, tonight I acquired Sho's first PSA graded copy of his 2025 Flagship True Photo (gotta love PSA vault transfers). I think this will go really well side by side with my copy of his 2024 Flagship True Photo which I still need to send out for grading. __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/96547941@N05/albums

03-27-2025, 09:11 PM	#28005
NYBBFAN Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 5,117	Very cool true photos. So clean! __________________ https://gallery.us175.com/ https://inv.us175.com/wantlist

03-27-2025, 11:03 PM	#28012
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,384 ThoseBackPages	speaking in general the whole "baked in" thing is beyond me cards cost what they cost. want to own it? buy it! __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

03-28-2025, 12:11 AM	#28013
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,836 shortslabs	I do love that this still happens from time to time __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

03-28-2025, 07:54 AM	#28021
NYRE2PECT Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Antonio Posts: 8,150	Price index less. Collect more. __________________ Primarily retired from collecting, but doing a Greatest Sho-man binder thing. I do love California Angels baseball.

03-27-2025, 09:28 PM	#28006
tgriffey30 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 428	[QUOTE=punctilious;19859208]Solid showing tonight. To celebrate, tonight I acquired Sho's first PSA graded copy of his 2025 Flagship True Photo (gotta love PSA vault transfers). [/QUOT You outbid me, jumped like $100 in the final seconds

03-27-2025, 09:30 PM	#28007
JMStang Member Join Date: May 2024 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 338	Pulled my first numbered Ohtani! 2021 Bowman neon green /399 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-27-2025, 10:25 PM	#28010
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,777	Hard not to feel like this is the year Sho cements dodger legend status with a MVP/Playoff Hero/TWP trifecta. Spoken to a lot of five figure card buyers and it feels like a lot are waiting for prices to come down, but also not taking any chances after experiencing an upward arrow straight through 2024 and into 2025. Sho's one of the few guys (and the only non-rookie year guy) that not only absorbed the monstrous supply from Topps, but outpaced it.

03-27-2025, 10:51 PM	#28011
Qubits Member Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: South Carolina Posts: 841	Getting that 4th MVP puts him 2nd only to Bonds. Yeah, yeah, yeah many will say this is already priced in but it was probably already priced in with Trout and we saw how that turned out. Actually having it happen would probably increase his floor a good bit imo.

03-28-2025, 04:57 AM	#28014
GabrielCards Member Join Date: Aug 2024 Posts: 395	I never get anyone who says that a price for a player has some "distant future accomplishment" already "factored in" lol. I think that prices for a player are based on the market (supply and demand) right now...at this point in time. (People have already said that Bobby Witt's prices have already factored in the MVP award that he is going to win this year. Ridiculous). With that said...Ohtani prices have lots of room to keep moving upwards.

03-28-2025, 05:26 AM	#28016
GabrielCards Member Join Date: Aug 2024 Posts: 395	Eh I don't buy it. Then how come his prices went up a good bit after the 50 50 feat? They forgot to "price that in" earlier in the season? Whatever they think they are "pricing in" IMO current Ohtani prices are still not even close to what their peak can be.

03-28-2025, 05:45 AM	#28018
GabrielCards Member Join Date: Aug 2024 Posts: 395	All right so if he wins a 4th MVP...and pitches again..and wins another WS his prices don't move since these are all expectations? I will take that bet right now.

03-28-2025, 08:13 AM	#28022
GabrielCards Member Join Date: Aug 2024 Posts: 395	You could be right - time will tell. Lets track the Bowman Chrome Ref as a base. Now that is selling in the 6K to 6.3K range. I do think that the more limited high end cards will appreciate more.

03-28-2025, 09:15 AM	#28025
tgriffey30 Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Michigan Posts: 428	This is true. Congrats on the addition.