2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[wood minis]

Originally Posted by patzee

...you have to be joking or just baiting...no one can be that naive...
How have you been hurt under our great President Trump? before the pandemic which no one could have controlled other than CHINA releasing it here and throughout the world!
YIKES IS CORRECT. You post is very frightening! although I don't believe it. LOL.

Your great president is one of the most corrupt human beings to have walked the earth. I'm not baiting anyone. I'm expressing my view based on my education, my perception and my life experience. I understand it's not everyone's view. But it is mine and you can look back at my posts on this thread and you'll see my view has been consistent and thoughtful.

No one I know is looking for the destruction of America. The growth of America into a place where our founding values are actualized, yes. We are not there yet.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by wood minis

This ignores the history of our Country. Like our Nation has perfectly evolved to reach this utopia of the present.

We had laws that systemically allowed slavery. It doesn’t get any more oppressive than that. Now we have laws that systemically deny slavery and racism. If you have a slave in America, you will be punished by the system. If you fire someone because they are black, you will be punished by the system.

The American system is anti-racist. Do people find ways to get around the system? Absolutely. Humans are imperfect and some are evil.

Our system is not perfect, but compare it to the experience of someone that escaped a Chinese gulag.

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/....side-1.7994216

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by tpeichel34

Sarah Carter is reporting that the FBI had a spy on the Trump Transition team, helping to perpetuate the right-wing conspiracy that the FBI and DOJ were weaponized to spy on President Trump. Very irresponsible reporting.

https://saraacarter.com/judicial-wat...ial-informant/

The article linked begins with this:

"A top government watchdog group obtained 136 pages of never before publicized emails between former FBI lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and one in particular appears to refer to a confidential informant inside the White House in 2017, according to a press release from Judicial Watch."

"...former FBI lovers"?

As in, Strzok and Page used to love the FBI but they don't love the FBI anymore?

These amateur hour propaganda pieces might carry a little more weight if they didn't use language that would get red check marks on a junior high school English composition paper. Thus, they only get traction with people who can't tell the difference between a journalistic endeavor and something from, say, The Onion.

Obviously, the rest of it was not worth reading.
Sara (not Sarah) Carter needs to hire a proofreader.

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by patzee

systemic racism ...it does not exist...it's a media ploy to divide the country and it is working very well with the mindless leftist sheeple hanging on every media word...

My in-laws retired to Gulfport, MS about a decade ago. To visit them from our then home in Illinois, we drove the length of the state. The last major city before Gulfport is Hattiesburg, a college town about 90 minutes away. You notice when nearing the city that you are entering Forrest County. One might think that the county was named for nearby DeSoto Forest, but they would be disappointed to learn that the county name is honoring Nathan Forrest, one of the founders of the KKK. Further, the town is serviced by Forrest General Hospital. Again, not named after the trees.

So the townspeople of Forrest county, who were likely born in Forrest General, are living in a county the state renamed for their local Klan founder, and are surrounded by statues placed by the Klan and the UDC which politicians all the way to the White House are fighting to protect. People are born, live, and die in a place where racism is memorialized to the point where it seems normal. That is systemic racism. It exists there and throughout society. To deny it exists is to perpetuate it.

[RedSoxFan28]

"I dont believe/ wont admit it so it doesnt exist"

[carlo16]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

My in-laws retired to Gulfport, MS about a decade ago. To visit them from our then home in Illinois, we drove the length of the state. The last major city before Gulfport is Hattiesburg, a college town about 90 minutes away. You notice when nearing the city that you are entering Forrest County. One might think that the county was named for nearby DeSoto Forest, but they would be disappointed to learn that the county name is honoring Nathan Forrest, one of the founders of the KKK. Further, the town is serviced by Forrest General Hospital. Again, not named after the trees.

So the townspeople of Forrest county, who were likely born in Forrest General, are living in a county the state renamed for their local Klan founder, and are surrounded by statues placed by the Klan and the UDC which politicians all the way to the White House are fighting to protect. People are born, live, and die in a place where racism is memorialized to the point where it seems normal. That is systemic racism. It exists there and throughout society. To deny it exists is to perpetuate it.

Gump..

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

My in-laws retired to Gulfport, MS about a decade ago. To visit them from our then home in Illinois, we drove the length of the state. The last major city before Gulfport is Hattiesburg, a college town about 90 minutes away. You notice when nearing the city that you are entering Forrest County. One might think that the county was named for nearby DeSoto Forest, but they would be disappointed to learn that the county name is honoring Nathan Forrest, one of the founders of the KKK. Further, the town is serviced by Forrest General Hospital. Again, not named after the trees.

So the townspeople of Forrest county, who were likely born in Forrest General, are living in a county the state renamed for their local Klan founder, and are surrounded by statues placed by the Klan and the UDC which politicians all the way to the White House are fighting to protect. People are born, live, and die in a place where racism is memorialized to the point where it seems normal. That is systemic racism. It exists there and throughout society. To deny it exists is to perpetuate it.

How is that systemic racism? Can a black person not live there? Get a job there? Get a house there?

[patzee]

Originally Posted by wood minis

Your great president is one of the most corrupt human beings to have walked the earth. I'm not baiting anyone. I'm expressing my view based on my education, my perception and my life experience. I understand it's not everyone's view. But it is mine and you can look back at my posts on this thread and you'll see my view has been consistent and thoughtful.

No one I know is looking for the destruction of America. The growth of America into a place where our founding values are actualized, yes. We are not there yet.

no, you must be talking obama/biden...obama was the most corrupt/WORST/ loser prez in the history of America...WHERE DO YOU GET THIS CORRUPT TRUMP BULL%%%& FROM? Jim Acosta? CNN? AND THE REST OF THOSE MUTTS. Go live in a Biden world...you ain't gonna like it bro! LOL.
yea President Trump is my great president...deal with it.
jim is that you???

[mattsey9]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

How is that systemic racism? Can a black person not live there? Get a job there? Get a house there?

That is not the definition of systemic racism.

[patzee]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

How is that systemic racism? Can a black person not live there? Get a job there? Get a house there?

they don't know the definition/meaning use of a world that does not exist other thank to cause chaos... they just like using it in a sentence.

[patzee]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

My in-laws retired to Gulfport, MS about a decade ago. To visit them from our then home in Illinois, we drove the length of the state. The last major city before Gulfport is Hattiesburg, a college town about 90 minutes away. You notice when nearing the city that you are entering Forrest County. One might think that the county was named for nearby DeSoto Forest, but they would be disappointed to learn that the county name is honoring Nathan Forrest, one of the founders of the KKK. Further, the town is serviced by Forrest General Hospital. Again, not named after the trees.

So the townspeople of Forrest county, who were likely born in Forrest General, are living in a county the state renamed for their local Klan founder, and are surrounded by statues placed by the Klan and the UDC which politicians all the way to the White House are fighting to protect. People are born, live, and die in a place where racism is memorialized to the point where it seems normal. That is systemic racism. It exists there and throughout society. To deny it exists is to perpetuate it.

it does not exist...period, end of story.

[patzee]

Originally Posted by RedSoxFan28

Equality = destroying

oh GOD stop! LOL...that is hysterical!
you had a BLACK PRESIDENT FOR 8 miserable horrifying years of apologies... rat dealings, corruption, spying, pandering, and so much more horror.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by mattsey9

That is not the definition of systemic racism.

What is it? Systemic racism is a system that prevents a certain race from getting something that other races can get.

[patzee]

Originally Posted by wood minis

Your great president is one of the most corrupt human beings to have walked the earth. I'm not baiting anyone. I'm expressing my view based on my education, my perception and my life experience. I understand it's not everyone's view. But it is mine and you can look back at my posts on this thread and you'll see my view has been consistent and thoughtful.

No one I know is looking for the destruction of America. The growth of America into a place where our founding values are actualized, yes. We are not there yet.

how many times do you have to be told before it sinks in? BIDEN, AOC. PELOSI, SHUMMER, BETO, WARREN, SAUNDERS (Commie), AND ALL THE REST of the sick leftists, marxists, commies...they will/are destroying America day by day.

[patzee]

Originally Posted by wood minis

Your great president is one of the most corrupt human beings to have walked the earth.

name the corruption! list it.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by patzee

how many times do you have to be told before it sinks in? BIDEN, AOC. PELOSI, SHUMMER, BETO, WARREN, SAUNDERS, AND ALL THE REST of the sick leftists, marxists, commies...they will/are destroying America day by day.

mwash, calm down, you went to far the other way. Log back on to your other account to make some crazy statements against Republicans.

[mwash1983]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

mwash, calm down, you went to far the other way. Log back on to your other account to make some crazy statements against Republicans.

Don't compare me to a guy who has clearly lost his marbles. I may say some foolish things but this guy is a bigot and should be banned.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

Don't disagree, just don't get the mindset to bring one up to defend the other.

If it's wrong it's wrong. That's just me though. I also personally believe with great power comes great responsibility and hold people who hold more power up to more scrutiny than I do people who don't matter as much.

Also, a treat for you:

https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/07...mission-rates/

If it's legal, its legal. The mind set I don't understand is that people are treated differently simply because. If the law says X, then it applies to everyone, not just people you do or do not like. I bring up Omar as a point because she's opening been giving millions of campaign dollars to her husband, it's been discussed in this thread and the response is "Well, if it's legal, it's legal".

Trump is no different.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

LOL, one YouTube video and you're conclusion is "privilege definitely exists".

Wonder where you draw the line. Men w/ hair vs. w/o hair. Good looking women vs. bad looking women. Being born in New Delhi vs. New Hampshire ...

You know JV, if I didn't know any better, all you're doing is building a little grievance ladder of your own. Fancy it up w/ a nice label called "privilege" and anyone on the bottom automatically has power because they lived a harder life and should be recognized for it.

It's not that it's one youtube video.

You're making a lot of assumptions. You know what they say...

Originally Posted by rman112

If your opinion extends no further than that, I guess not. But that's probably not the case.

Not a fan of using the word 'privilege'. Are we going to start labeling and categorizing people's lives now? He's athletically privileged. He's privileged because his parents stayed together. They're intellectually privileged because of their higher IQ. It just makes it easier to make excuses.

I don't have any motive if that's what you were getting at. I remember seeing that on facebook a couple years ago and always thought it was a very eye-opening kind of video.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Don't compare me to a guy who has clearly lost his marbles. I may say some foolish things but this guy is a bigot and should be banned.

To be fair, the things you have said would make me think you’ve lost your marbles too. Also, I haven’t played marbles in decades.

[tpeichel34]

Originally Posted by jdandns

The article linked begins with this:

"A top government watchdog group obtained 136 pages of never before publicized emails between former FBI lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page and one in particular appears to refer to a confidential informant inside the White House in 2017, according to a press release from Judicial Watch."

"...former FBI lovers"?

As in, Strzok and Page used to love the FBI but they don't love the FBI anymore?

These amateur hour propaganda pieces might carry a little more weight if they didn't use language that would get red check marks on a junior high school English composition paper. Thus, they only get traction with people who can't tell the difference between a journalistic endeavor and something from, say, The Onion.

Obviously, the rest of it was not worth reading.
Sara (not Sarah) Carter needs to hire a proofreader.

Attacking the source? Okay, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, even though I’ve been getting that for three years when the MSM fails to report something and alternative sources are the only option.


Is the NYT amateur hour too? Here is Agent Strzok in just released notes where he identified nine errors in a NYT article on Russian collusion, including debunking the claim that the Trump administration had frequent contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials.

https://justthenews.com/accountabili...0EbSncRmpjxNDE

Claim in NYT article: "Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trump's presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials."

Note by Strzok: "This statement is misleading and inaccurate as written. We have not seen evidence of any individuals in contact with Russians (both Governmental and non-Governmental)" and "There is no known intel affiliation, and little if any [government of Russia] affiliation[.] FBI investigation has shown past contact between [Trump campaign volunteer Carter] Page and the SVR [Foreign Intelligence Service of the Russian Federation], but not during his association with the Trump campaign."

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

To be fair, the things you have said would make me think you’ve lost your marbles too. Also, I haven’t played marbles in decades.

But to be fair you lurk in the shadows calling everyone crazy so the word is beginning to lose its luster.

[patzee]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Don't compare me to a guy who has clearly lost his marbles. I may say some foolish things but this guy is a bigot and should be banned.

is that the only defense calling one a bigot? grow up. you should be banned if I should as we are one in the same, yes? LOL.
EXPLAIN why you would call me a bigot?...bigot leftist.
It's so easy to label one a bigot, racist when you have nothing under the hood but monikers that don't fit...NAME IT.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

But to be fair you lurk in the shadows calling everyone crazy so the word is beginning to lose its luster.

That’s racist man

[ninjacookies]

> I'm white but...
> I grew up a bad neighborhood (if not, proceed to next bullet point)
> had/have black friends
> never seen racism first hand except BLM and the NFL's new head coach hiring referendum
> everything would be better if people stopped seeing color like I do, because my experience represents the common 'Murican