**The Perennial JUAN SOTO Thread!**

[BAHoopla]

Hard to be hobby relevant when you never make a highlight reel

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by HarryLime

As someone who's selling, this seems like a great time to buy.

Arthur

You don’t say. Might as well post the links for us too.


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[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

Agree. If he stays healthy he will win mvps and be a hofer

But the hype has been huge since the start

And the last 2 years have been incredibly disappointing imo

While there is no doubt he has been productive what about the last 2 years leads you to believe he will win MVP. You have lots of guys in the NL putting up monster numbers and when you look at counting stats Soto is what 90th in BA, Maybee 25-30th in HR and RBI, while being one of the worst defensive outfielders in baseball.

[ThoseBackPages]

MIB is a stats nerd

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

He's washed. I guess I'm just an idiot for holding these quadruplets...

Gotta strike while the iron is hot.

[clocsta2323]

It's been a better life once I unloaded the last of my Soto cards earlier this year. Now I don't sweat box scores like I used to

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

It's been a better life once I unloaded the last of my Soto cards earlier this year. Now I don't sweat box scores like I used to

The other, even easier solution, is not to be a myopic worrywart.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by zworykin

The other, even easier solution, is not to be a myopic worrywart.

Fair point. But I've been riding with Soto for 6 years and had a couple big cards I held hoping for just one more Soto covid burst in the last couple seasons. Not worrying about his numbers and the real economic impact they have ($1000s) is a load off.

I sold them cause I held a few nice Bichettes hoping he would maintain last seasons epic finish. Literally couldn't have asked for a hotter Bichette the first month and it barely moved the needle. The writing is on the wall with what it will take to raise a veteran's prices. SO RARE.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by clocsta2323

Fair point. But I've been riding with Soto for 6 years and had a couple big cards I held hoping for just one more Soto covid burst in the last couple seasons. Not worrying about his numbers and the real economic impact they have ($1000s) is a load off.

I sold them cause I held a few nice Bichettes hoping he would maintain last seasons epic finish. Literally couldn't have asked for a hotter Bichette the first month and it barely moved the needle. The writing is on the wall with what it will take to raise a veteran's prices. SO RARE.

Look at Acuna. The guy has been the MVP favorite since April 1st. Card prices have barely moved. I can't imagine what someone like Elly will have to do in order for his card prices to grow from what his 2024 S1 & Chromes will go for after being ripped.

[clocsta2323]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Look at Acuna. The guy has been the MVP favorite since April 1st. Card prices have barely moved. I can't imagine what someone like Elly will have to do in order for his card prices to grow from what his 2024 S1 & Chromes will go for after being ripped.

For real. The one huge bump was Goldschmidt but he had literally fell off the map into obscurity as wild as that is to say for someone with his career.

So obscurity "Oh yeah, that guy!" to MVP is the only guaranteed jump. Maybe Ohtani is single-handedly destroying the market for veterans?

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Look at Acuna. The guy has been the MVP favorite since April 1st. Card prices have barely moved. I can't imagine what someone like Elly will have to do in order for his card prices to grow from what his 2024 S1 & Chromes will go for after being ripped.

He has cooled off recently. Also look at the braves lineup. It rivals the 1927 yankees. All of their stats are inflated because of how strong it is.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

He has cooled off recently. Also look at the braves lineup. It rivals the 1927 yankees. All of their stats are inflated because of how strong it is.

Doesn't matter. He was hot for 4 months. Best player in the NL. Best team in baseball. Run away w/ the MVP until last week. Prices barely moved during that time. Anyone pumping Elly next year, when 2024 cards drop...either bought & graded (and are now selling) or got lucky ripped it (and are now selling). Its the same circle every year. You have a guy that's been meeting the expectations and hype...but his cards can't move in price? That speaks volumes! Buying for longterm on today's big prospects is as much of a guaranteed loss as ever.

[BAHoopla]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Look at Acuna. The guy has been the MVP favorite since April 1st. Card prices have barely moved. I can't imagine what someone like Elly will have to do in order for his card prices to grow from what his 2024 S1 & Chromes will go for after being ripped.

So you are saying Soto cards will continue to fall especially as he continues to play in SD….

[theredmenace]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Doesn't matter. He was hot for 4 months. Best player in the NL. Best team in baseball. Run away w/ the MVP until last week. Prices barely moved during that time. Anyone pumping Elly next year, when 2024 cards drop...either bought & graded (and are now selling) or got lucky ripped it (and are now selling). Its the same circle every year. You have a guy that's been meeting the expectations and hype...but his cards can't move in price? That speaks volumes! Buying for longterm on today's big prospects is as much of a guaranteed loss as ever.

I can't speak for his higher end cards but 2018 Bowman Chromes have doubled (60ish to 115ish) in price. Short printed >$150 cards have been doing very well across board.

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by theredmenace

I can't speak for his higher end cards but 2018 Bowman Chromes have doubled (60ish to 115ish) in price. Short printed >$150 cards have been doing very well across board.

What are you looking at? Is this for Acuna?

His PSA 10 Bowman Chrome's are $80ish

His Heritage PSA 10's are $40-$50

Topps Chrome is $70-$90 for regular, Update is $50

Heritage Action is $250-$275 - this hasn't moved in forever it seems

Despite his season, Acuna hasn't really jumped at all. Rose somewhat yes, but all his regular stuff that is easy to track hasn't moved a blip.

Anyways, people dogging on Soto wondering why we think he could win MVP, look at May-July. Top 5 hitter in baseball during that stretch and was hitting himself into possible MVP contention until he took a crap in August.

[boxbuster7]

The print runs are the problem. Very little stuff from 2018 is actually scarce. And the closer to 2023 the RC, the higher the print runs. We are definitely in a garbage era.

[BigErmis33]

I don't know what the heck y'all are watching on Acuna but I have sold over 30 slabs in the last 2 months for massive ROI's - By massive I mean double and triple what I paid. 5 went for a 300% gain or better.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by BigErmis33

I don't know what the heck y'all are watching on Acuna but I have sold over 30 slabs in the last 2 months for massive ROI's - By massive I mean double and triple what I paid. 5 went for a 300% gain or better.

Cool story. Back it up with the actual cards, numbers, date purchased and sold. Go look at his cardladder overall market. Anyone can find random examples to fit their narrative. Some here could show you where they lost 300% I bet.


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[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by Zauron

Anyways, people dogging on Soto wondering why we think he could win MVP, look at May-July. Top 5 hitter in baseball during that stretch and was hitting himself into possible MVP contention until he took a crap in August.

Even if you were to ignore his horrible start, ignore his horrible finish take his 3 month peak and project it out over 62 games that’s what .295-.300 avg and 30 homers for the season. While very good, that’s just not winning any MVP awards and unfortunately not gonna move any card prices either. I’m sure his obo over that stretch is going to lead baseball but lots of walks and teridbke defense not gonna win mvp over guys putting up 40/60 seasons or what Betts and company are doing

[SaltyCracker]

Hr #150

[BigErmis33]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Cool story. Back it up with the actual cards, numbers, date purchased and sold. Go look at his cardladder overall market. Anyone can find random examples to fit their narrative. Some here could show you where they lost 300% I bet.


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I will never try to prove anything to a supergirl. I've fed chickens smarter than you.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by BigErmis33

I will never try to prove anything to a supergirl. I've fed chickens smarter than you.

I like your 2nd account name. Nice troll job.


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by SaltyCracker

Hr #150

washed

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

washed

Definitely not getting a Topps Now card for it tomorrow, either.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by zworykin

Definitely not getting a Topps Now card for it tomorrow, either.

ha!!!