First Buzz: 2020 Topps Series 1 baseball cards - Page 12

base set · 01-13-2020, 01:33 AM

Andy Pafko, 1952

80pc · 01-13-2020, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Neo

1. Bo Bichette 1. Bo Bichette

I'm ready for that seat on the couch!

Can you all explain why you have Yordan higher? Seems like the knock on guys like Eloy should also apply to Yordan.

Tim · 01-13-2020, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigSlim16

This is probably a dumb question, but if I preordered a case with overnight shipping will it arrive on release day or does it ship on release day and arrive the day after?

Unless Topps has some sort of weather or production issue with shipping it out, it will arrive on release day from BO whether you pay for overnight shipping or not so don't waste your money doing it.

Oachs83 · 01-13-2020, 09:59 AM

Thinking of just going for one hobby box and one jumbo. Almost went with a case of hobby but I just kept looking at the design and not loving it. I’m afraid I will just get bored after a few boxes as I break for my personal enjoyment. I don’t think I have the energy to bust and sort a whole case in a couple days. Get me a card with borders Topps!!

Stech36 · 01-13-2020, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Oachs83

Thinking of just going for one hobby box and one jumbo. Almost went with a case of hobby but I just kept looking at the design and not loving it. I’m afraid I will just get bored after a few boxes as I break for my personal enjoyment. I don’t think I have the energy to bust and sort a whole case in a couple days. Get me a card with borders Topps!!

Go for jumbo then! Hobby used to be really brutal when it was 36 packs

Oachs83 · 01-13-2020, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Stech36

Go for jumbo then! Hobby used to be really brutal when it was 36 packs

Thanks, I think I will do that. I was just looking at the specs and like having a better chance at pulling an auto of note with jumbo. I got lucky with S1 hobby last year. I only bought two and one box had a Frank Thomas auto #/25 and a Ted Williams SSP so I’m sure my hobby luck is gone.

Tim · 01-13-2020, 10:48 AM

I know somewhere (maybe in this thread for a short time) it's been mentioned that series 2 presell boxes are significantly more than series 1 boxes. This makes no sense to me. Either people are just plain stupid and are pricing it and paying it strictly based on what has happened the last two years (attributed 100% to the rookies) OR I am stupid and am overvaluing Series 1 based on the rookie checklist (and ignoring the past for series 1, which i maintain was due to bad rookie checklists).

My thinking is flagship is flagship and the rookies will drive the sealed box prices. I can't understand why series 1 - just because of weak past checklists - is so much less than series 2 - just because the last two years had great rookie checklists. What am I missing here?

premium1981 · 01-13-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

Either people are just plain stupid

You could have stopped there. No need to put any additional thought into it. Todays "lock in" guys and gals aren't very bright. Times have changed.

smanzari · 01-13-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

I know somewhere (maybe in this thread for a short time) it's been mentioned that series 2 presell boxes are significantly more than series 1 boxes. This makes no sense to me. Either people are just plain stupid and are pricing it and paying it strictly based on what has happened the last two years (attributed 100% to the rookies) OR I am stupid and am overvaluing Series 1 based on the rookie checklist (and ignoring the past for series 1, which i maintain was due to bad rookie checklists).

My thinking is flagship is flagship and the rookies will drive the sealed box prices. I can't understand why series 1 - just because of weak past checklists - is so much less than series 2 - just because the last two years had great rookie checklists. What am I missing here?

I think its just a place holder (but could be wrong)

BigSlim16 · 01-13-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim

Unless Topps has some sort of weather or production issue with shipping it out, it will arrive on release day from BO whether you pay for overnight shipping or not so don't waste your money doing it.

Oh wow I didn’t know that, thanks for the advice I’ll keep that in mind going forward

premium1981 · 01-13-2020, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by smanzari

I think its just a place holder (but could be wrong)

These place holders in the past have adjusted downward a day or two after going live. Does not seem to be the case anymore. Morons are buying, so they keep the price steady (or goes up). Can't fault blowout. They are a business, and that is smart business. Blame the ignorant consumers.

coachnip13 · 01-13-2020, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by smanzari

I think its just a place holder (but could be wrong)

I agree. Another major site doesn't have Series 2 listed at all.

coachnip13 · 01-13-2020, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

These place holders in the past have adjusted downward a day or two after going live. Does not seem to be the case anymore. Morons are buying, so they keep the price steady (or goes up). Can't fault blowout. They are a business, and that is smart business. Blame the ignorant consumers.

Are you that upset that you can't lock in a case at $600? Step back from the ledge. Prices will be normal.

LVDan · 01-13-2020, 11:52 AM

It's so if LRobert or Adell hit a HR early in spring people have somewhere(beyond BC) to spend $ in their excitement. Silly to pay that.

premium1981 · 01-13-2020, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

Are you that upset that you can't lock in a case at $600? Step back from the ledge. Prices will be normal.

Upset? At what? I know how the hobby works, and I am simply stating what is going on. Why does that mean I am upset? And no, prices will not be normal. Blowout had jumbo cases of Series 1 for $550 for a long time. I will bet you a case, that Series 2 never sniffs that price on here before release. Care to accept my wager?

KhalDrogo · 01-13-2020, 12:10 PM

Is Adell really expected to get the call-up in time for S2?

premium1981 · 01-13-2020, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Is Adell really expected to get the call-up in time for S2?

I don't think so. I think he will be in Update, or even 2021 Topps S1 depending on other factors. He could be the one to get the Yordan treatment this year.

marterburn · 01-13-2020, 12:21 PM

I haven't gotten over the design yet. I'm just not willing to spend on what I believe to be ugly, ugly cards. Worse than 2017, IMO.

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towerymt · 01-13-2020, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Is Adell really expected to get the call-up in time for S2?

Vlad was up 4/26 and barely got in? I would guess no for Adell.

silverandblack · 01-13-2020, 01:24 PM

I see hobby cases are at 659 right now, what were they before that?

coachnip13 · 01-13-2020, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

Upset? At what? I know how the hobby works, and I am simply stating what is going on. Why does that mean I am upset? And no, prices will not be normal. Blowout had jumbo cases of Series 1 for $550 for a long time. I will bet you a case, that Series 2 never sniffs that price on here before release. Care to accept my wager?

You seem to be upset since you're calling people stupid and ignorant and you don't even know if a case has been sold.

Stech36 · 01-13-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Vlad was up 4/26 and barely got in? I would guess no for Adell.

Yeah, other than Luis Robert, who is going to drive series 2? And as much of a fan of Robert as I am, I could see him struggling adjusting to MLB pitchers right now. Although, It would not shock me if a few guys were held back to move it. Just holding back one of Lux, Bichette, or Hoerner, would likely move a 100’s of extra series 2 cases

marterburn · 01-13-2020, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stech36

Yeah, other than Luis Robert, who is going to drive series 2? And as much of a fan of Robert as I am, I could see him struggling adjusting to MLB pitchers right now. Although, It would not shock me if a few guys were held back to move it. Just holding back one of Lux, Bichette, or Hoerner, would likely move a 100’s of extra series 2 cases

Lux and Bichette were named in the Million Card Rip Party announcement.

Hoerner could be very well still be held back, but who knows.

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phil · 01-13-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by silverandblack

I see hobby cases are at 659 right now, what were they before that?

I think that's still starting price on Hobby, or at least within $20.

cj828282 · 01-13-2020, 02:22 PM

Aquino could be held back as well. I thought for sure he would be one of the announced names.

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KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,093	Is Adell really expected to get the call-up in time for S2? __________________ I love PSA!

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base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,396	Andy Pafko, 1952

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Oachs83 Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Minnesota Posts: 731	Thinking of just going for one hobby box and one jumbo. Almost went with a case of hobby but I just kept looking at the design and not loving it. I’m afraid I will just get bored after a few boxes as I break for my personal enjoyment. I don’t think I have the energy to bust and sort a whole case in a couple days. Get me a card with borders Topps!!

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Tim Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 6,725	I know somewhere (maybe in this thread for a short time) it's been mentioned that series 2 presell boxes are significantly more than series 1 boxes. This makes no sense to me. Either people are just plain stupid and are pricing it and paying it strictly based on what has happened the last two years (attributed 100% to the rookies) OR I am stupid and am overvaluing Series 1 based on the rookie checklist (and ignoring the past for series 1, which i maintain was due to bad rookie checklists). My thinking is flagship is flagship and the rookies will drive the sealed box prices. I can't understand why series 1 - just because of weak past checklists - is so much less than series 2 - just because the last two years had great rookie checklists. What am I missing here?

01-13-2020, 11:52 AM	#289
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,512	It's so if LRobert or Adell hit a HR early in spring people have somewhere(beyond BC) to spend $ in their excitement. Silly to pay that.

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marterburn Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Milwaukee area Posts: 4,719 burnmax12 burnmax12	I haven't gotten over the design yet. I'm just not willing to spend on what I believe to be ugly, ugly cards. Worse than 2017, IMO. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

01-13-2020, 01:24 PM	#295
silverandblack Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 3,860	I see hobby cases are at 659 right now, what were they before that?

01-13-2020, 02:22 PM	#300
cj828282 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 13,967	Aquino could be held back as well. I thought for sure he would be one of the announced names.