Elly De La Cruz

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by corockies

Remind me again how you steal a base when you hit a home run? To steal bases you have to actually get on base. I was comparing the hype of the 2 players really - they also have similar speed sets and similar inability to get on base.

Oh, ok. So you didn't look at their stats, just a general statement about two fast players who were hyped. That makes sense. A quick stroll through their statcast data shows just how different they are as players.

[packman80]

Give Cruz credit he's really liking to stick to that 37% strike out rate in AB's. Last year 37% and this year 37%.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by Funkster

Honestly surprised there seems to be more pop in his bat than i expected.

the biggest surprise for Tovar is that he has hit just 2 homers at Coors this year and 9 on the road

[jaymez619]

Originally Posted by williemayshayes

Bo Jackson led MLB in Ks hit the same as EDLC and was more popular than Michael Jordan at that time.

EDLC may be out of the league in 2 years, I don’t know….but he is electric and creates moments. He is why people started watching sports. You’re there to create memories with your family/kids/friends and be entertained.

Arraez could hit .430 and kids just don’t care. Elly could air mail a ball into the first base field seats at 110mph and it’ll lead SportsCenter.


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Bo got the hype from playing MLB/NFL, making moments, and of course Nike ads.

Why do you say Elly could be out in 2 years? That can be said about just about any player. If his offense doesn’t keep him around, at least his defense could help.

As a Padres fan, Arraez could be the second coming of Tony Gwynn who I feel never got the respect/attention he deserved. Maybe it’s just the San Diego market.


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[boxbuster7]

Elly out of mlb in 2 years...

please pass the crack pipe

[Mightymango]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Elly out of mlb in 2 years...

please pass the crack pipe

Even Buxton who gets hurt if a blade of grass is cut the wrong way is still in the league. I think Elly will be around for quite a while.

A little more patience at the plate would help but these days most batters are just trying to murder the ball instead of being patient at the plate.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Mightymango

Even Buxton who gets hurt if a blade of grass is cut the wrong way is still in the league. I think Elly will be around for quite a while.

A little more patience at the plate would help but these days most batters are just trying to murder the ball instead of being patient at the plate.

I feel like Elly is too patient. He takes too many pitches, gets behind in the count, then has to flail at off speed junk. If he took care of business earlier in the count, it would do him some good. But that means not missing those early count fastballs.

[ThoseBackPages]

much like with Trout, BO is the only place that hates Elly

LOL

[rms13]

Originally Posted by jaymez619

Bo got the hype from playing MLB/NFL, making moments, and of course Nike ads.

Why do you say Elly could be out in 2 years? That can be said about just about any player. If his offense doesn’t keep him around, at least his defense could help.

As a Padres fan, Arraez could be the second coming of Tony Gwynn who I feel never got the respect/attention he deserved. Maybe it’s just the San Diego market.


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I honestly think Gwynn didn't get as much credit as he deserved because he was fat. The other problem is that Wade Boggs was doing the same things as Gwynn at the same time in Boston. But I still think Gwynn got plenty of credit.

[WillBBC]

Elly seems like Billy Hamilton with power. I hope he proves me wrong and has an illustrious career.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by WillBBC

Elly seems like Billy Hamilton with power. I hope he proves me wrong and has an illustrious career.

Hamilton had a pretty good career. And if he had 30 hr power he would have had a much better career. Elly's per 162 avg so far is 23 HR/ 67 SB and he's still only 22. Even is his peak is a .230 hitter with 25-30 HR and 50-70 SB every year that should keep him in starting lineup somewhere for a long time

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Elly out of mlb in 2 years...

please pass the crack pipe

Elly first bowman chrome auto back to less than $100 in two years.

Great for collectors, not great for investors.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Adan Dunn was no slouch. Hit a lot of HRs, sure he struck out a lot but he got on baseball a lot as well. Your friends don't like the Bengals? Last I knew they were still considered a pro sports team?

They are Bengals die hards and it is so annoying

[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

much like with Trout, BO is the only place that hates Elly

LOL

Nobody hates Elly, well I’m sure some do but most of the “Elly haters” have never posted anything hateful about him ever. The problem is if you say hey he’s hitting .175 over the last 6 weeks that’s not very good, it’s construed as hate speech.

[49ersSF]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

Nobody hates Elly, well I’m sure some do but most of the “Elly haters” have never posted anything hateful about him ever. The problem is if you say hey he’s hitting .175 over the last 6 weeks that’s not very good, it’s construed as hate speech.

He's been performing this pump routine for years. Nothing you say will change the way he posts. He's tactical with his post always promoting certain players he invests in as GOATS and anyone who says differently he will claim they are hate mongers.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

On Elly De La Cruz bobblehead night there were 42,427 tickets sold. That’s the biggest non-Opening Day weekday attendance ever at Great American Ball Park.

That's kinda amazing, considering that includes the games where Junior was sitting at 499 HRs...

[Drew3000]

Originally Posted by WillBBC

Elly seems like Billy Hamilton with power. I hope he proves me wrong and has an illustrious career.

There were times I questioned if BHam could hit middle school pitching. Elly has bad pitch recognition and often gets out-thinked by pitchers but I do think he will improve. I think he might be better if he stuck to just hitting left. His OPS+ is 88 vs LHP

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

He's been performing this pump routine for years. Nothing you say will change the way he posts. He's tactical with his post always promoting certain players he invests in as GOATS and anyone who says differently he will claim they are hate mongers.

never invest in cards

[WillBBC]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

Nobody hates Elly, well I’m sure some do but most of the “Elly haters” have never posted anything hateful about him ever. The problem is if you say hey he’s hitting .175 over the last 6 weeks that’s not very good, it’s construed as hate speech.

Exactly! I hope he turns it around and is an absolute superstar for years to come. But uhh…show me something. He had a similar drop last September that everybody just wrote off as a rookie wall. He’s still young but man, it’s been ugly for more than one prolonged stretch now!

[SidVish]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

never invest in cards

Unfortunately I think that's what a lot of people do. They say they're collectors but you can tell they're not by their posts

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[boxbuster7]

counterpoint: Not everybody has expendable income to be a collector - for many these days getting the cards they want means selling others and I don't think that should be looked down on.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

counterpoint: Not everybody has expendable income to be a collector - for many these days getting the cards they want means selling others and I don't think that should be looked down on.

If you're opening packs or buying into breaks hoping to get cards to sell to buy more cards then you'll probably spend more in the long run then you would just buying singles. If you're end goal is collecting then just buy singles you can afford. If you're trying to flip stuff it's all a gamble so you might make some money and you might lose some.

[Triple B]

Baseball card collectors on HI are bigger day traders than actual day traders. Thank God this forum is only like 1% of the hobby.

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

Elly out of mlb in 2 years...

please pass the crack pipe

Yeah. At a bare bones minimum, he'd be a pinch runner type on someone's roster. He still has time to make some adjustments before he can be written off as a career .230 hitter. And if that's what he is, he's got enough pop and speed to be serviceable on a roster.

[sickmantz]

Originally Posted by packman80

Give Cruz credit he's really liking to stick to that 37% strike out rate in AB's. Last year 37% and this year 37%.

I remember reading from an analyst, at the time they called him up, that they might have called him up too early. This was his exact concern.

But with how big the jump from AAA to MLB is now, he might not have had the opportunity to make that adjustment at AAA.

Hopefully, he can still make that adjustment.