WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1216

mnvikingstwins · 01-23-2018, 02:30 AM

Miz had almost all cheers when he won

mnvikingstwins · 01-23-2018, 02:32 AM

Double post

Wolves4Life · 01-23-2018, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WalterAZ31

Just like every single one of your posts

Wrong. Nice try though. Try and put something into the conversation instead of just coming to insult.

scfa1975 · 01-23-2018, 05:43 AM

Here goes another belt and possibly division in the garbage. Sad thing is I expect this from a guy like him.

Enzo Amore suspended

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredk.../#6ffc66df49d4

fulltritty · 01-23-2018, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

He's never liked Miz, some don't. He's terrific though, he almost single handed made his feud with Cena last year mean something by consistent great promos. He's been able to reinvent himself in an era where Wrestlers have little to no character and never change it up.

I loved the Miz's feud with Cena and the promos he did. That's the only time I liked him though. Sucks he won again last night.

BlowoutBuzz · 01-23-2018, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Nice nostalgia tonight but no OMG moment other than the opener.

And even that was iffy. Whole show was pretty rough after that -- like they had no real plan.

Jericho · 01-23-2018, 01:02 PM

Show seemed to go downhill after the open with Stonecold. Everything else was just kind of there. Miz winning was no shock because as I said he needed the prop back otherwise he's nothing. Should have just had Joe beat Roman a couple weeks back, because would have given us a fresh champion and one that can actually have good matches. But then again Joe should be in the Universal Title picture.

And The Revival getting it from DX and The Club, was to be expected. The Revival are basically done on the main roster. They have been exposed for what Ive seen all along, boring and just not that good. They got zero reaction again

Wolves4Life · 01-23-2018, 01:50 PM

See ya Enzo. Can't remember the last time WWE released a current champion.

mnvikingstwins · 01-23-2018, 01:52 PM

Think it's safe to say cruiserweights have been a failure. Enzo Neville Aries probably 2/3 of all the story lines

Wolves4Life · 01-23-2018, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Think it's safe to say cruiserweights have been a failure. Enzo Neville Aries probably 2/3 of all the story lines

Nah, They just pushed the wrong people. Should of concentrated on the people CWC was built around not outsiders coming in later.

Bob Loblaw · 01-23-2018, 02:08 PM

Enzo was the most entertaining superstar they had. Like it or not - the guy got a pop. I don't believe the story -- it's too convenient -- but he was likely on thin ice with WWE any for things that we don't even know about, and this was the proverbial straw.

I love his character. He and the Miz are the two best guys on the stick that WWE has right now. But WWE is a publicly traded company, and in this day and age, you absolutely cannot have ANY ties to someone who has been accused of sexual misconduct.

It's a shame - a shame if he did it, because he was talented and the girl certainly had mental issues; a shame if he's being railroaded and it's a false accusation. But, because he can talk and wrestle, he'll land on his feet either in ROH or Impact (unless, of course, there are criminal charges). But he and Gulak were the only reason to watch 205 Live. Unless they have a huge influx of talent coming in, it may be time to pull the plug and integrate the guys they have onto the main roster.

Edit: The twitterverse is saying that Enzo knew of the allegations and didn't advise the WWE. Also, this has allegedly been an open case since October. Charges may be coming soon.

Wolves4Life · 01-23-2018, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

Enzo was the most entertaining superstar they had. Like it or not - the guy got a pop. I don't believe the story -- it's too convenient -- but he was likely on thin ice with WWE any for things that we don't even know about, and this was the proverbial straw.

I love his character. He and the Miz are the two best guys on the stick that WWE has right now. But WWE is a publicly traded company, and in this day and age, you absolutely cannot have ANY ties to someone who has been accused of sexual misconduct.

It's a shame - a shame if he did it, because he was talented and the girl certainly had mental issues; a shame if he's being railroaded and it's a false accusation. But, because he can talk and wrestle, he'll land on his feet either in ROH or Impact (unless, of course, there are criminal charges). But he and Gulak were the only reason to watch 205 Live. Unless they have a huge influx of talent coming in, it may be time to pull the plug and integrate the guys they have onto the main roster.

When? WWE put him in storylines with guys who could carry him to good matches. He can't wrestle but he is a good talker.

Bob Loblaw · 01-23-2018, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

When? WWE put him in storylines with guys who could carry him to good matches. He can't wrestle but he is a good talker.

As the world's biggest Roman Reigns mark, your opinion on anything of any relevance is worthless.

mnvikingstwins · 01-23-2018, 02:43 PM

Could do a 15 man battle royal for title

Wolves4Life · 01-23-2018, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

As the world's biggest Roman Reigns mark, your opinion on anything of any relevance is worthless.

Enzo wishes he was as popular as Roman.

Shogun2049 · 01-23-2018, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

I love his character. He and the Miz are the two best guys on the stick that WWE has right now. But WWE is a publicly traded company, and in this day and age, you absolutely cannot have ANY ties to someone who has been accused of sexual misconduct.

It's a shame - a shame if he did it, because he was talented and the girl certainly had mental issues; a shame if he's being railroaded and it's a false accusation. But, because he can talk and wrestle, he'll land on his feet either in ROH or Impact (unless, of course, there are criminal charges). But he and Gulak were the only reason to watch 205 Live. Unless they have a huge influx of talent coming in, it may be time to pull the plug and integrate the guys they have onto the main roster.

I suggest you see Rich Swann. He's still working there even after his Domestic Assault allegations.

EDIT: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ion/938544001/

chrisfaceoff · 01-23-2018, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

As the world's biggest Roman Reigns mark, your opinion on anything of any relevance is worthless.

Enzo was absolutely terrible in the ring. His solo finisher was horrible, and with Cass he just did a frog splash with a little push. He was pure gold on the Mic, and ran circles around anyone outside of Miz(and sometimes Owens) They absolutely paired him with wrestlers who could carry him.

This is another problem with WWE, they don't work to elevate talent. When you have Goldust getting the biggest reaction on the show, there is a problem.

cdub6238 · 01-23-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

When? WWE put him in storylines with guys who could carry him to good matches. He can't wrestle but he is a good talker.

he CAN wrestle...but he was in a nowhere to go middle zone...

too small to be taken seriously against Main Eventers (if Balor is getting that kinda stereotype, Enzo is by far no Balor...)

too big/inexperienced to keep up with the 205 guys...those guys might be bland as characters, but no doubt they can go in the ring- especially Cedric, TJP, even an older Kendrick

hes a great talker, and a great bumper/seller..but as far as being a credible champion/contender, not so much..theres a reason he was the hype man and face in peril in all his tag matches with Cass

but the WWE wasnt just going to toss one of their most over guys straight to enhancement talent

i mean..the guy was likeable on air, but he was certainly hated by basically all his co-workers; even being reported that he was STILL kicked/locked out of the locker room after the incident months ago..

i do find the story fishy..but there are a lot of details well likely never know; feel bad for him to a degree if he is getting railroaded..but then again they do say Karma is a...

cdub6238 · 01-23-2018, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Enzo wishes he was as popular as Roman.

LMFAO...this right here...all credibility ever..LOST..

jrg1128 · 01-23-2018, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

LMFAO...this right here...all credibility ever..LOST..

Hahaha I'm with you. 95% of people who watch WWE hate Roman Reigns. I have been watching wrestling since the early 90's and RR is by far one of the most pushed/hated/useless guys I've ever witnessed. People don't like him, people don't want him to be champion, the superman punch sucks. I mean there is really nothing to like about the guy as a wrestler. Roman Reigns beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania? That's maybe the biggest joke I have ever seen. 75% of the time it seems like WWE has absolutely no idea what they are doing. I've moved more towards NXT, much better booking.

Wolves4Life · 01-23-2018, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

LMFAO...this right here...all credibility ever..LOST..

More people care when he comes out and wrestles and sells more merch. I stand by what I said. You act like getting pops just coming out makes someone better?

jrg1128 · 01-23-2018, 03:22 PM

On another note, I can't wait till Aleister Black joins the main roster. His match at Takeover vs. Velveteen Dream was one of my top 3 matches of the year.

LC2nine10 · 01-23-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jrg1128

Hahaha I'm with you. 95% of people who watch WWE hate Roman Reigns. I have been watching wrestling since the early 90's and RR is by far one of the most pushed/hated/useless guys I've ever witnessed. People don't like him, people don't want him to be champion, the superman punch sucks. I mean there is really nothing to like about the guy as a wrestler. Roman Reigns beating the Undertaker at Wrestlemania? That's maybe the biggest joke I have ever seen. 75% of the time it seems like WWE has absolutely no idea what they are doing. I've moved more towards NXT, much better booking.

Kids LOVE him.
Women love him.
He has merch EVERYWHERE.

I don't like him at all, but there's a reason he keeps winning.

jmarascojr · 01-23-2018, 03:27 PM

It'll be interesting to see what they come up with tonight to spin the whole Enzo situation and strip him of the title...

I said it the other day, pull the CWs from the Rumble and let them have their own on Sunday...

I know it would be outta nowhere, but maybe they hot shot Ricochet to the main roster and have him win the whole thing, IDK...

jrg1128 · 01-23-2018, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LC2nine10

Kids LOVE him.
Women love him.
He has merch EVERYWHERE.

I don't like him at all, but there's a reason he keeps winning.

I don't think he's as liked by fans as you think. Maybe kids love him, but that's just because they are too young to understand.

01-23-2018, 02:08 PM	#30386
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	Enzo was the most entertaining superstar they had. Like it or not - the guy got a pop. I don't believe the story -- it's too convenient -- but he was likely on thin ice with WWE any for things that we don't even know about, and this was the proverbial straw. I love his character. He and the Miz are the two best guys on the stick that WWE has right now. But WWE is a publicly traded company, and in this day and age, you absolutely cannot have ANY ties to someone who has been accused of sexual misconduct. It's a shame - a shame if he did it, because he was talented and the girl certainly had mental issues; a shame if he's being railroaded and it's a false accusation. But, because he can talk and wrestle, he'll land on his feet either in ROH or Impact (unless, of course, there are criminal charges). But he and Gulak were the only reason to watch 205 Live. Unless they have a huge influx of talent coming in, it may be time to pull the plug and integrate the guys they have onto the main roster. Edit: The twitterverse is saying that Enzo knew of the allegations and didn't advise the WWE. Also, this has allegedly been an open case since October. Charges may be coming soon. Last edited by Bob Loblaw; 01-23-2018 at 02:15 PM.

01-23-2018, 02:30 AM	#30376
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,193 ski_4 ski_4	Miz had almost all cheers when he won

01-23-2018, 02:32 AM	#30377
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,193 ski_4 ski_4	Double post

01-23-2018, 05:43 AM	#30379
scfa1975 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 336	Here goes another belt and possibly division in the garbage. Sad thing is I expect this from a guy like him. Enzo Amore suspended https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredk.../#6ffc66df49d4

01-23-2018, 01:02 PM	#30382
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,984	Show seemed to go downhill after the open with Stonecold. Everything else was just kind of there. Miz winning was no shock because as I said he needed the prop back otherwise he's nothing. Should have just had Joe beat Roman a couple weeks back, because would have given us a fresh champion and one that can actually have good matches. But then again Joe should be in the Universal Title picture. And The Revival getting it from DX and The Club, was to be expected. The Revival are basically done on the main roster. They have been exposed for what Ive seen all along, boring and just not that good. They got zero reaction again

01-23-2018, 01:50 PM	#30383
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,455	See ya Enzo. Can't remember the last time WWE released a current champion.

01-23-2018, 01:52 PM	#30384
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,193 ski_4 ski_4	Think it's safe to say cruiserweights have been a failure. Enzo Neville Aries probably 2/3 of all the story lines

01-23-2018, 02:43 PM	#30389
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,193 ski_4 ski_4	Could do a 15 man battle royal for title

01-23-2018, 03:22 PM	#30397
jrg1128 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,290 jrgbball	On another note, I can't wait till Aleister Black joins the main roster. His match at Takeover vs. Velveteen Dream was one of my top 3 matches of the year.

01-23-2018, 03:27 PM	#30399
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,409 shooterjoe13	It'll be interesting to see what they come up with tonight to spin the whole Enzo situation and strip him of the title... I said it the other day, pull the CWs from the Rumble and let them have their own on Sunday... I know it would be outta nowhere, but maybe they hot shot Ricochet to the main roster and have him win the whole thing, IDK...