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Old 09-16-2022, 06:17 PM   #3076
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Honestly man most people have been losing their ass on their PC players and singles holdings for the last 5-6 months so that is part of it and the mood... BUT...

There has been nothing normal / fun opened in months.

Allen and Ginter, Stadium Club, Update... people will be happy or at least be able to open new cards of their favorite players without getting completely destroyed.
I can understand this sentiment. People love Topps Chrome, especially to rip it, and many are priced out of it.

To be honest, if I didn't secure my preorder (for the price I paid in November 2021), I don't think I'd be buying it either.

But to me, it's no different than Optic/Prizm/Select basketball/football (or even the higher-end products like NT, Immaculate, Flawless, Eminence, Noir, etc).

As long as there's group breakers and high rollers, hobby/jumbo wax prices will remain higher than what's comfortable. We'll never return to pre-pandemic prices, unfortunately. I fear it might even get worse once Fanatics takes full command.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:17 PM   #3077
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Still no SPs...

Guess I'll just buy the Wander RC in the offseason and wait for Update.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:19 PM   #3078
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Honestly man most people have been losing their ass on their PC players and singles holdings for the last 5-6 months so that is part of it and the mood... BUT...

There has been nothing normal / fun opened in months.

Allen and Ginter, Stadium Club, Update... people will be happy or at least be able to open new cards of their favorite players without getting completely destroyed.

I’d agree we’re in the middle of a very rocky transition and it sucks to see your cards tank.
People seemed to be pretty pleased overall with the platinum 52 chrome stuff but beyond that a bunch of delays and watered down and missing content isn’t helping.


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Old 09-16-2022, 06:21 PM   #3079
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Has anyone seen a base auto of JRod pulled yet? I have only seen a few color, and find that strange...
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:24 PM   #3080
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Has anyone seen a base auto of JRod pulled yet? I have only seen a few color, and find that strange...
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:25 PM   #3081
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Has anyone seen a base auto of JRod pulled yet? I have only seen a few color, and find that strange...
To be fair, there are 154 auto subjects

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Old 09-16-2022, 06:27 PM   #3082
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If you are talking about Wednesday, you're not telling the truth. 5 friends and I were let into the show at 9:30 as part of the VIP crowd. We speed walked as fast as we could to Topps and began a line to sign up. I had two friends in front of me who were second in line, I was third, and some other friends were a few people back as others had the same idea. All of us got to sign up for the event after 9:30 and there was a full page left for other guests when I signed my name.

Not everyone received a Julio autograph. There were 3 different card subjects with 50 made of each. I was one of the lucky ones to get Julio.
Show Wednesday didn't open till after VIP welcome shindig. Thursday AM was signup. I got in banquet hall around 8:45 and stood near hall entrance until opening. The ushers let VIPs in 3 or 4 minutes early. I sprinted to booth and was in line @ 9:29AM I was maybe 10th back. They started signing folks up and first few guys wrote their name and turned around and said there were only 5 spots left. By then there were probably 30 people in line and many were pretty upset. Topps guys seemed apologetic but he said, "the list was pretty full when started signups and he had no control over why they were allowed to sign up early." He actually did seemed like he knew it was BS. He tossed me a red T-shirt as a consolation prize.
Older folks that were stiffed not so cordial. I kinda come to expect it from Topps so I wasn't surprised.

In 2019 (my first show) I walked up to Topps counter and said to a 30ish woman "this is my first show do you have anything going on I could sign up for? I want to experience everything." She said no not really. Then man walked up next to me and asked if they signing people up for Q and A, and she said, "Yes and you got the last spot." I looked at her dumbfounded and said "I just asked you if I could sign up for something." She said, "Oh, well its full. You should have got here sooner." It took every fiber of my being not to lose it. I was there the entire week and didnt want to get kicked out the 2nd day. In 2021 made sure I asked multiple people and got there in plenty of time. Did the same for this year. After I found out about the Julio auto I realized staff knew what was being given away and "pre" padded the list not giving very many people much of a chance.
Glad to hear you got in and allowed some people to sign up.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:27 PM   #3083
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Sorry. Mispelled

Defamation. Which is what your doing making your assumptions
While lacking integrity. Not even responding to get more of what I had to sayZ
Just mase up your own stuff to defamate me

Thank you! Your the best
Call 911 On yourself or better someone to help you have better morals
I wish the product was better and less expensive. Or even better and *as expensive. The centering issues and near non-existence thus far of any Extended Base SPs of the five guys everyone wants is brutal for this release, both short and long term. Many if not most of the big hits are redemptions. No one is defaming you by pointing this out to you. Stop telling people to call 911 on themselves. These are baseball cards.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:29 PM   #3084
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I’d agree we’re in the middle of a very rocky transition and it sucks to see your cards tank.
Does it though? Or better asked, do you even pay attention to the prices of your PC?

Nobody wants to overpay for anything in life. But you could do far worse than overpay for a card you enjoy. And as prices deflate, I can build the PC bigger and faster.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:32 PM   #3085
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Only way to save this product is if Topps dumped 75% of the print run into the ocean.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:35 PM   #3086
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Only way to save this product is if Topps dumped 75% of the print run into the ocean.
Guys we are breaking the matrix.

Am I in a simulation?
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:37 PM   #3087
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Guys we are breaking the matrix.



Am I in a simulation?
I promise theres only one of me lol

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Old 09-16-2022, 06:37 PM   #3088
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I saw someone post the Blaster odds yesterday, but did anyone post the Hobby/Jumbo odds yet?
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:37 PM   #3089
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Does it though? Or better asked, do you even pay attention to the prices of your PC?

Nobody wants to overpay for anything in life. But you could do far worse than overpay for a card you enjoy. And as prices deflate, I can build the PC bigger and faster.

I personally don’t have a pc and my cards were never worth much anyway.
That said I think you hit a great point-the variance of peoples definition of the term “pc” sure does get exposed a bit in the face of wholesale decreasing card values.


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Old 09-16-2022, 06:45 PM   #3090
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Topps/Fanatics needs to come out and make a statement at this point.

This is massive damage from a PR perspective. Still haven't seen a SP.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:47 PM   #3091
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This could be sunce all the jumbo I've seen have been bricked which means they have been sitting a while.
This is going to get lost in the bickering, but it’s an interesting detail.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:48 PM   #3092
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2nd year Wander image variation green /99
Not a fan of the sparkles this year....oof.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:51 PM   #3093
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When did this turn into the BKB section
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:52 PM   #3094
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Houdini pulled a green sparkle SSP or SSSP Darren image variation. 13/99

Cool card.

I hate this player as a Red Sox fan but still have an urge to snag a copy of this card.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:53 PM   #3095
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Topps/Fanatics needs to come out and make a statement at this point.

This is massive damage from a PR perspective. Still haven't seen a SP.
Yep.

They're gonna get on that one right after the statement about leaving Finest Flashbacks up on their Website for days and then cancelling thousands of orders after tying up those funds from customers for weeks..
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:54 PM   #3096
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I don't get why ppl can't just say "Yeah, I was super excited about this product. Didn't turn out the way I hoped. Sorry for getting others caught up in the excitement. Hope no one lost out because of something I said."

I mean, I get why ppl don't own it (pride), but a simple sorry goes a long way.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:55 PM   #3097
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When did this turn into the BKB section
Once baseball wax prices started becoming more like 2019-20 basketball wax (release) prices.

Just imagine what it'll look like in a couple of years lol.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:55 PM   #3098
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I don't get why ppl can't just say "Yeah, I was super excited about this product. Didn't turn out the way I hoped. Sorry for getting others caught up in the excitement. Hope no one lost out because of something I said."

I mean, I get why ppl don't own it (pride), but a simple sorry goes a long way.
Maybe because he was never excited about the actual product, and only excited about the opportunity to make money by suckering people into the pump.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:55 PM   #3099
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[QUOTE=LVDan;18430087]You ain’t lying
Ever since the market started normalizing a year ago there seems to be a couple people in almost every thread ready to crap on people with a similar “ I told you morons” tone it seems.
It’s a bummer to me as the sense of community I felt here when i returned to the hobby in early 17 has definitely eroded a fair amount it seems





There are still a lot of good members here LVDan. You just have to filter out the negativity.
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Old 09-16-2022, 06:58 PM   #3100
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Jumbo odds. Honestly the amount of text is absurd

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