2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mike1498

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What are the collectively-encompassing merits of the Republican party? How do they represent the values of the majority of Americans and not continue to perpetuate economic inequality?

Why do these staunch conservatives who believe in traditional Christian ideals not denounce Trump in favor of a moderate politician in Biden who is probably more closely aligned to their supposed platforms?

[OscarOne]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-into-thin-air

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A different topic....how come Donnie is hyper-focused on Tik Tok when we have 45, 50 million unemployment, in the midst of a pandemic, and civil unrest? The leadership is not there.

You can post stories like this all day. Those people on here will read it, not like it, call it "fake news", and then go back to watching Hannity.

[spuds1961]

Wow now this thread has evolved into fortune tellers supreme.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-into-thin-air

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A different topic....how come Donnie is hyper-focused on Tik Tok when we have 45, 50 million unemployment, in the midst of a pandemic, and civil unrest? The leadership is not there.

He's doubling down on his platform 'China bad.'

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by OscarOne

You can post stories like this all day. Those people on here will read it, not like it, call it "fake news", and then go back to watching Hannity.

I've been incorrectly referencing Tucker Carlson the entire time.

Might as well admit I'm doing a case study on Republican Cognitive Dissonance in the age of Trump.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

What are the collectively-encompassing merits of the Republican party? How do they represent the values of the majority of Americans and not continue to perpetuate economic inequality?

Why do these staunch conservatives who believe in traditional Christian ideals not denounce Trump in favor of a moderate politician in Biden who is probably more closely aligned to their supposed platforms?

Here's some merits of the republican party...
-Christian values (things like charity, love, faith, compassion)
-Pro life
- Economic Freedom (basically the choice to choose what you want to be instead of the government choosing)
-Right to protection with fire arms
-Tax breaks (I think this can be improved but theres a lot of merit if correctly done)

[rcmb3220]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

How Jared Kushner’s Secret Testing Plan “Went Poof Into Thin Air”

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020...-into-thin-air

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A different topic....how come Donnie is hyper-focused on Tik Tok when we have 45, 50 million unemployment, in the midst of a pandemic, and civil unrest? The leadership is not there.

Is that THE Nat Turner? I mean, not THE THE Nat Turner, but the card collector.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I admitted that I missed on the technical degree assessment.
Decent job is middle class. A 330k house (and I say this to the credit of whichever town you live in) buys a starter home in the coastal northeast.
Good for you for living in an affordable area, but it's still a 'burb small town in the Midwest. Lower middle class is well below the poverty line in 2020, so I can't see how I indicated that.

Who would secede if Biden wins? He's as moderate and status quo in his political ideology as you could possibly hope for from blue team.

You were so terribly wrong but your warped mind can’t comprehend that.

Say these words. I was very wrong.

You had me pegged as close minded and unable to comprehend changes in the world. Wrong and wrong.

Instead of admitting your mis-steps you constantly reframe and ask more questions to pivot. It’s comical at this point. You can’t finish a conversation because you’re incapable of admitting you’re wrong and showing a semblance of humility.

Most of the South will secede. They are already close and Trump is President. But I don’t think Biden will win. My money is on the cities burning.

Why don’t you read up on some Hopi prophecy while you’re at it? Unless you’re ready to discuss that now as well.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Here's some merits of the republican party...
-Christian values (things like charity, love, faith, compassion)
-Pro life
- Economic Freedom (basically the choice to choose what you want to be instead of the government choosing)
-Right to protection with fire arms
-Tax breaks (I think this can be improved but theres a lot of merit if correctly done)

Separation of Church and State or nah?

Love, Compassion & Charity are unfortunately not christian values practiced by the Republican party, although some use Religion as a chess piece for archaic social policy.

Economic Freedom vs. the Democratic platform of what? Government choosing what?

2nd Amendment. Got it.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Separation of Church and State or nah?

Yes there 100% should be separation but like you stated, Christians are a large majority of Republicans.

Love, Compassion & Charity are unfortunately not christian values practiced by the Republican party, although some use Religion as a chess piece for archaic social policy.

Yes same can be said with BLM. It depends on who we're talking about. My parents are devote christians and they do practice those values.


Economic Freedom vs. the Democratic platform of what? Government choosing what?

Communism doesn't offer any type of freedom. You work for the government.

2nd Amendment. Got it.
Congrats, I'm glad that one wasn't as hard as the electoral college was for you

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[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I've been incorrectly referencing Tucker Carlson the entire time.

Might as well admit I'm doing a case study on Republican Cognitive Dissonance in the age of Trump.

How many people here do you think are Republicans?

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

You were so terribly wrong but your warped mind can’t comprehend that.

Say these words. I was very wrong.

You had me pegged as close minded and unable to comprehend changes in the world. Wrong and wrong.

Instead of admitting your mis-steps you constantly reframe and ask more questions to pivot. It’s comical at this point. You can’t finish a conversation because you’re incapable of admitting you’re wrong and showing a semblance of humility.

Most of the South will secede. They are already close and Trump is President. But I don’t think Biden will win. My money is on the cities burning.

Why don’t you read up on some Hopi prophecy while you’re at it? Unless you’re ready to discuss that now as well.

I'm familiar with Hopi prophecy and the potential links between Hopi nation and the Tibetan people.

What would you like to discuss since only Geech humored me with his guesswork.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I'm familiar with Hopi prophecy and the potential links between Hopi nation and the Tibetan people.

What would you like to discuss since only Geech humored me with his guesswork.

Well then you aren’t familiar with the ones I’m taking about. That unfortunate, we could have had a good discussion. Do I need to give you some more reading to do?

I never stated I would guess anything about you. I’m still waiting for you to own up since you were trying to make a strong psychological flex.

Now you owe me a list and a mea culpa. The IOUs keep growing.

Of course one thing I do know about you is that you are not a man of your word. Integrity is beneath you.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

I'm familiar with Hopi prophecy and the potential links between Hopi nation and the Tibetan people.

Are you referring to the general polite remarks made by a few spiritual leaders or the legitimately cuckoo cross breeding with Mayan mythology?

Because if it’s the latter; then it would explain a lot of your behavior.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mike1498

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Your parents, while perhaps fine people, are not at all representative of Republican politics.

Yes, Christians make up a large portion of Republicans and they make it very clear that they are not embracing of any other religious practices or beliefs. How American.

Your likening of the Democratic party to Communism illustrates my point.

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

How many people here do you think are Republicans?

Democrat/Progressive:

We have jdandns, TheHeel, wood minis, LoneWolf, trixstar, me. So 6 People.

That'd be everyone who has at least some understanding of the Democratic party so I'd conclude everyone else is either Republican and/or ill-informed.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Well then you aren’t familiar with the ones I’m taking about. That unfortunate, we could have had a good discussion. Do I need to give you some more reading to do?

I never stated I would guess anything about you. I’m still waiting for you to own up since you were trying to make a strong psychological flex.

Now you owe me a list and a mea culpa. The IOUs keep growing.

Of course one thing I do know about you is that you are not a man of your word. Integrity is beneath you.

Why don't you clearly state what are you attempting to talk about rather than dance around the bush until the alleged imminent demise of the western world?

Originally Posted by TheFrenzy

Are you referring to the general polite remarks made by a few spiritual leaders or the legitimately cuckoo cross breeding with Mayan mythology?

Because if it’s the latter; then it would explain a lot of your behavior.

This is JeremyNick's bag, not mine. He won't say what he's getting at beyond predicted Civil War in late 2020.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Your parents, while perhaps fine people, are not at all representative of Republican politics.

Yes, Christians make up a large portion of Republicans and they make it very clear that they are not embracing of any other religious practices or beliefs. How American.

Your likening of the Democratic party to Communism illustrates my point.

Couple things
1) That is obviously true. Like I also said which you purposely deflected, same can be said with BLM

2) I guess same can be said about Jews because like you said, most Jews are apparently liberal. Or the more logical reason is that certain groups of people tend to align with certain political groups. That was a very poor attempt by the way

3) If you can't see how Bernie is communist, I don't know what more is there to debate. With that amount of taxes, there is not point of becoming a doctor because of all the time and effort you'll put in for little reward.

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

Why don't you clearly state what are you attempting to talk about rather than dance around the bush until the alleged imminent demise of the western world?

Because I don’t feel like it, nor do I have to. I don’t owe you a thing. I’ve given you more than enough about myself and my thoughts, with zero from you. You’ve done nothing but dance this whole time. You don’t want a conversation, you want ammo.

One of us shared, one of us belittled. Make it a two way conversation and we can continue it, if you are truly interested.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by JeremyNick

Because I don’t feel like it, nor do I have to. I don’t owe you a thing. I’ve given you more than enough about myself and my thoughts, with zero from you. You’ve done nothing but dance this whole time. You don’t want a conversation, you want ammo.

One of us shared, one of us belittled. Make it a two way conversation and we can continue it, if you are truly interested.

Jopeal won’t tell us his background cause as always, he just likes to deflect. He wanted to get personal so he had something better than his usual garbage

[rman112]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

That'd be everyone who has at least some understanding of the Democratic party so I'd conclude everyone else is either Republican and/or ill-informed.

Haha. This is awful. A real brain-melter.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Couple things
1) That is obviously true. Like I also said which you purposely deflected, same can be said with BLM

2) I guess same can be said about Jews because like you said, most Jews are apparently liberal. Or the more logical reason is that certain groups of people tend to align with certain political groups. That was a very poor attempt by the way

3) If you can't see how Bernie is communist, I don't know what more is there to debate. With that amount of taxes, there is not point of becoming a doctor because of all the time and effort you'll put in for little reward.

BLM is not a political party with a large representation in the House & Senate. If they were, it would perhaps be a more fair comparison.

I don't even know how to detangle this second point. The Christian religion & it's intertwining with government policy is the antithesis of liberty or religious freedom.
It matters not though. Younger people are abandoning the Christian institution and its dogmas in droves (note: not refuting the ideals that you support).

Bernie is not representative of the Democratic party & nor is he communist.
By the way, I could not stand Bernie's ridiculous 'everyone gets a good government job' stance. He was running primarily on universal health care, climate change policy and college debt reform.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Jopeal won’t tell us his background cause as always, he just likes to deflect. He wanted to get personal so he had something better than his usual garbage

Racists! .. Who? .. Peace out!

I have more understanding than all of you slumps! .. Explain systemic racism to me .. Sends link / Admits not really understanding.

Tell me about your background so I can judge (mostly wrongly)! .. Doesn't share a thing about themselves.

[rman112]

BTW, 'defending' yourself is pointless. To people like Jopeal, it's an admittance of wrong thinking.. that needs to be corrected.

Admit your sins, ye of white, non-Democratic faith.

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Jopeal

BLM is not a political party with a large representation in the House & Senate. If they were, it would perhaps be a more fair comparison.

I don't even know how to detangle this second point. The Christian religion & it's intertwining with government policy is the antithesis of liberty or religious freedom.
It matters not though. Younger people are abandoning the Christian institution and its dogmas in droves (note: not refuting the ideals that you support).

Bernie is not representative of the Democratic party & nor is he communist.
By the way, I could not stand Bernie's ridiculous 'everyone gets a good government job' stance. He was running primarily on universal health care, climate change policy and college debt reform.

I would say it's as represented as Christianity. You don't think AOC is on that BLM train? I don't have twitter but I have a feeling I could just look up AOC BLM and a bunch will come up.

I don't get how it's intertwine. I'll admit I may be a little ignorant here. If it's about gay marriage that's been overruled and I agree that was a bad look from the christian community. If it has to do with tax breaks, this is more than just churches that get this benefit.

That's fine if you want to remove yourself from the radicals in your group but you can't include me in the radicals of my group then. Bernie has a big following so I would say he makes a good portion of the left.

[rman112]

It's funny. In this thread, those that try to convince others to change are overwhelmingly Democratic. Your views need to be corrected!