Mookie Betts is kind of good - Page 128

SleepyWill · 04-02-2024, 07:06 AM

He's certainly cooled down since 2021 in the post-season, but I think most people are missing the point. . . He gets to the post-season. If he wins 1 more ring in the next 5+ years that's an epic career by any standard. His stats for the 2020 postseason that resulted in their last WS win.

Mookie's stats - .296 Batting average with 21 hits, 2 HRs, 8 RBI's, 15 runs scored in 18 games.

Believe his overall postseason breakdown is .251 with 58 hits, 4 homers, 18 RBI's and 40 runs. Now lets compare him to the new power team of the NL ATL Braves.

Ronald Acuna Jr. post season stats in his career so far.

.257 with 28 hits, 3 homers, 9 RBIs, and 17 runs scored in 29 games.

SleepyWill · 04-02-2024, 07:21 AM

He has from 2024-2032 with the Dodgers, that's 8 more seasons until his age 40 season.

Could easily get to 400+ home runs, 2000+ hits, .290+ career BA, 80+ WAR.

Players that have started since 2000 that are higher in WAR currently.

Albert Pujols - Retired
Trout - semi-prime due to injuries
Verlander - Almost end of career
Kershaw - Almost end of career
Greinke - Almost end of Career
Mad Max - Almost end of Career
Mookie - in his prime

JRX · 04-02-2024, 07:22 AM

He's already a lock for the hof at this point

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Stifle · 04-02-2024, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SleepyWill

He's certainly cooled down since 2021 in the post-season, but I think most people are missing the point. . . He gets to the post-season. If he wins 1 more ring in the next 5+ years that's an epic career by any standard. His stats for the 2020 postseason that resulted in their last WS win.

Mookie's stats - .296 Batting average with 21 hits, 2 HRs, 8 RBI's, 15 runs scored in 18 games.

Believe his overall postseason breakdown is .251 with 58 hits, 4 homers, 18 RBI's and 40 runs. Now lets compare him to the new power team of the NL ATL Braves.

Ronald Acuna Jr. post season stats in his career so far.

.257 with 28 hits, 3 homers, 9 RBIs, and 17 runs scored in 29 games.

He has had 2 good post season series, 2 AWOL post season series and a bunch of bad ones. He is Clayton Kershaw as a position player. You can count on him until the stakes becomes enormous. A Negative .30 for his WPA is indicative of his post season performance. He is no where near Pujols or Cabrera who both hobbled in many series to provide what Betts has been unable to.

Don’t get me wrong, Mookie is going to compete for multiple MVP’s in the regular season. That is where is ends.

JimEd14 · 04-02-2024, 10:20 AM

You throw that WPA stat around like it's the end of a conversation, but it's not.

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He may not have the gaudy hitting stats but I could watch some of these post season defensive gems forever ...

As a Sox fan, my favorite, gunning down Tony Kemp in the 2018 ALCS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ele_6M4rUHQ

A trio of 2020 NLCS highlights including his jumping catch against the wall vs Marcell Ozuna which became his '21 Stadium Club card, my favorite image of him as a Dodger - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOx5UZIWjqI

atk825 · 04-02-2024, 12:25 PM

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You throw that WPA stat around like it's the end of a conversation, but it's not.

He also had a number of exceptional defensive plays in the 2020 run. The shoestring catch DP and robbed at least a couple up against the wall.

SleepyWill · 04-02-2024, 01:17 PM

End up being the second or third best player since the turn of the century and end up with two (potentially more world series rings)

I'll take that any day for present and future value/collectability.

And he's not even 32.

Jed Clampett · 04-02-2024, 01:25 PM

2014 bowman wax to the moon. 🌙🏆
Actually, it’s down about 40% since last year🎱

JimEd14 · 04-02-2024, 02:11 PM

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He also had a number of exceptional defensive plays in the 2020 run. The shoestring catch DP and robbed at least a couple up against the wall.

Vids in my post above!

Edit to add this as well, also from the 2018 ALCS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOtK9lZe_DE

hammertime · 04-02-2024, 10:03 PM

Absolutely on fire.

jdandns · 04-02-2024, 10:21 PM

Home run tonight for his 1,500th hit.

atk825 · 04-02-2024, 10:46 PM

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Home run tonight for his 1,500th hit.

This season he’s already gotten 1000th run, 350th double, 1500th hit.

blackbears86 · 04-03-2024, 06:22 AM

He's going to cool down obviously, but I am absolutely LOVING this hot start.

awz50 · 04-03-2024, 06:24 AM

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He's going to cool down obviously, but I am absolutely LOVING this hot start.

Me as well, great to watch

JRX · 04-03-2024, 06:39 AM

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He's going to cool down obviously, but I am absolutely LOVING this hot start.

You don't think he can keep up a 300 hit / 100 hr pace?

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blackbears86 · 04-03-2024, 07:06 AM

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You don't think he can keep up a 300 hit / 100 hr pace?

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I would be very happy with a .290 AVG. 40 HR 115 RBI season

stryk · 04-03-2024, 09:14 AM

I am very happy with the way he has started out this year. In the last few years he didn't start hitting until May and this year he has started out his best ever. I am hoping a repeat of his 2018 Season with over a 10 War. I finally picked up a nice Dodgers Uniform card last night, probably a case of FOMO. Can't wait until the authenticator gets it to me and I can show it off. It's been on my list since 2020.

hermanotarjeta · 04-03-2024, 09:34 AM

En fuego.

oldgoldy97 · 04-03-2024, 09:38 AM

The Fabiani pep talk worked!

rms13 · 04-04-2024, 11:16 AM

Apparently he's the best defensive SS in baseball right now. GG at SS this year and MVP would be great to silence the critics. I think he's definitely motivated this year after losing the MVP last season

JimEd14 · 04-04-2024, 02:33 PM

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Apparently he's the best defensive SS in baseball right now. GG at SS this year and MVP would be great to silence the critics. I think he's definitely motivated this year after losing the MVP last season

This sounds amazing.

Note, I'd also be fine with a top 10 in MVP voting, no GG and just a steady 25-95 .300/.400/.500 with a boatload of runs.

Keep those card prices low for another year until I can pick up a few more gems.

Eff the critics, I just love watching the guy play, so just stay healthy!

lawrencedc1 · 04-09-2024, 04:48 PM

stryk · 04-15-2024, 06:31 PM

My first big Dodgers Card purchase. Been wanting one since they came out.

ThoseBackPages · 04-15-2024, 06:34 PM

Fine Nine indeed!

atk825 · 04-17-2024, 12:03 AM

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04-02-2024, 07:06 AM	#3176
SleepyWill Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Boston Posts: 2,477 Wilstok_0	He's certainly cooled down since 2021 in the post-season, but I think most people are missing the point. . . He gets to the post-season. If he wins 1 more ring in the next 5+ years that's an epic career by any standard. His stats for the 2020 postseason that resulted in their last WS win. Mookie's stats - .296 Batting average with 21 hits, 2 HRs, 8 RBI's, 15 runs scored in 18 games. Believe his overall postseason breakdown is .251 with 58 hits, 4 homers, 18 RBI's and 40 runs. Now lets compare him to the new power team of the NL ATL Braves. Ronald Acuna Jr. post season stats in his career so far. .257 with 28 hits, 3 homers, 9 RBIs, and 17 runs scored in 29 games. __________________ Shohei Variation Chaser @Forbidden Donut on IG

04-02-2024, 07:21 AM	#3177
SleepyWill Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Boston Posts: 2,477 Wilstok_0	He has from 2024-2032 with the Dodgers, that's 8 more seasons until his age 40 season. Could easily get to 400+ home runs, 2000+ hits, .290+ career BA, 80+ WAR. Players that have started since 2000 that are higher in WAR currently. Albert Pujols - Retired Trout - semi-prime due to injuries Verlander - Almost end of career Kershaw - Almost end of career Greinke - Almost end of Career Mad Max - Almost end of Career Mookie - in his prime __________________ Shohei Variation Chaser @Forbidden Donut on IG

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SleepyWill Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Boston Posts: 2,477 Wilstok_0	End up being the second or third best player since the turn of the century and end up with two (potentially more world series rings) I'll take that any day for present and future value/collectability. And he's not even 32. __________________ Shohei Variation Chaser @Forbidden Donut on IG

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stryk Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lexington, Ky Posts: 2,075 checkoutmycards-stryk stryk	I am very happy with the way he has started out this year. In the last few years he didn't start hitting until May and this year he has started out his best ever. I am hoping a repeat of his 2018 Season with over a 10 War. I finally picked up a nice Dodgers Uniform card last night, probably a case of FOMO. Can't wait until the authenticator gets it to me and I can show it off. It's been on my list since 2020. __________________ Always Trading for 2014 Mookie Betts

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