John & Kamala Slight; Escondido, CA; Ebay: sundiegocollectibles, WIWAG, CARD DOCTORS

[superdan49]

Originally Posted by corndog

PSA 7 to PSA 9

PSA Cert #27314571

1961 Fleer Tom Meschery #31

Value gain of $596.11

PSA Set Registry: Dave's 61 Fleers

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 7 for $50.99 on February 19, 2017.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 9 for $647.10 on June 03, 2018.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed top edge and ink removal (attempt).

The question for me is how did this card get a PSA 9 with that huge print defect across his face?

[corndog]

PSA 7 to PSA 9

PSA Cert #27314581

1961 Fleer Jack Twyman #65 In Action

Value gain of $441.23

PSA Set Registry: Private

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller PWCC as a PSA 7 for $27.77 on February 19, 2017.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 9 for $469.00 on July 28, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed top and bottom edges.

[corndog]

SGC 6 to PSA 7

PSA Cert #26008565

1961 Fleer Rudy LaRusso #57
In Action

Value gain of $14.01

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller randysselling as a SGC 6 for $24.99 on July 25, 2016.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 7 for $39.00 on April 07, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed bottom edge.

[corndog]

PSA 6.5 to PSA 8

PSA Cert #25556650

1961 Fleer Rod Hundley #21

Value gain of $89.11

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller probstein123 as a PSA 6.5 for $39.89 on July 15, 2015.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8 for $129.00 on June 29, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.
No back image provided with initial purchase.
Chipping matches both images on the right edge.

[corndog]

PSA 7 to PSA 8

PSA Cert #28125245

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $249.00

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller vintagecardboard as a PSA 7 for $150.00 on September 08, 2017.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8 for $399.00 on April 22, 2018.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.

[corndog]

*NOTE: I have found 10 additional 1976 George Brett Topps #19 cards that have
been altered by Jon Slight and will post them over the next few days.
Two common print flaws with these cards is black ink offset spots on the
front and "snow" or ink picking due to offset in the darker ink areas of the front.
When the 1976 Topps cards were printed, gloss varnish was also applied which contributed to
a lot of the ink offsetting issues during production.
Jon Slight altered the appearances of these flaws by both removing color and/or adding color to minimize these flaws.
With each altered card I post will note in detail what was done to the cards to alter their appearance.

With this card, aside from being trimmed at the bottom, black ink spots were removed or minimized from the arm.
Whatever Slight used to remove these spots also removed the ink on the card that makes up the flesh tones.
The gif that I provided shows the difference in skin color of the PSA 7 and PSA 9.
The skin color change only appears in the area where he worked on minimizing the ink offset.
The altered card is whiter in these areas as you can see.
It looks similar to a glare, but the surface ink is actually gone or greatly reduced.
The halftone ink dots have disappeared.
In the flesh tones of the rest of the card there is no change in color.
If you look at the bottom right white border you can see a "fisheye" caused by debris on the varnish plate during printing.

PSA 7 to PSA 9

PSA Cert #28318655

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $3,313.01

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller benni40 as a PSA 7 for $49.99 on November 01, 2017.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 9 for $3,363.00 on March 08, 2018.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed bottom edge and ink removal.

[auburn35]

Interesting discovery. Curious to see the rest of the cards

[vwnut13]

Never get Cheated

[corndog]

*NOTE: I have found 11 additional 1976 George Brett Topps #19 cards that have
been altered by Jon Slight and will post them over the next few days.
Two common print flaws with these cards is black ink offset spots on the
front and "snow" or ink picking due to offset in the darker ink areas of the front.
When the 1976 Topps cards were printed, gloss varnish was also applied which
contributed to a lot of the ink offsetting issues during production.
Jon Slight altered the appearances of these flaws by both removing color and/or adding color to minimize these flaws.
With each altered card I post will note in detail what was done to the cards to alter their appearance.

With this card, aside from being trimmed at the bottom, black ink spots were removed or minimized from the arm.
Whatever Slight used to remove these spots also removed the ink on the card that makes up the flesh tones.
The gif that I provided shows the difference in skin color of the PSA 7 and PSA 8.
The skin color change only appears in the area where he worked on minimizing the ink offset.
The altered card is whiter in these areas as you can see.
It looks similar to a glare, but the surface ink is actually gone or greatly reduced.
The halftone ink dots have disappeared.
In the flesh tones of the rest of the card there is no change in color.


PSA 7 to PSA 8

PSA Cert #24233448

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $130.51

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller jchambers5 as a PSA 7 for $59.99 on August 22, 2014.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8 for $190.50 on June 04, 2015.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify trimmed bottom edge, color added to the area with "snow"
and ink removal on the arm which also removed production ink.
No back image provided from first sale.

[auburn35]

I'd be shocked if the question(s) get a response, but with psa having a q&a during their 10/10 day celebration, thought I would give it a try.
Link, if anyone has a question they would like to submit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DApTkXWP...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Tune in at 10:10am PT on 10/10, as PSA President Ryan Hoge presides over box breaks and pressing questions.
Slide into the comments below or our DMs to submit yours for this IG Live Q&A in advance.

My submitted question, relating to this topic.
https://x.com/35auburn/status/1843845123119165546

With the updated t&c's and prior/current issues, can psa explain how submitters like this still have grading privileges?
Thread detailing new & old submissions is 4+ years old, without any obvious correction.
FBI is a 3rd party?
https://www.psacard.com/articles/art...d-fraud-update
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369218

[corndog]

Originally Posted by auburn35

I'd be shocked if the question(s) get a response, but with psa having a q&a during their 10/10 day celebration, thought I would give it a try.
Link, if anyone has a question they would like to submit.
https://www.instagram.com/p/DApTkXWP...RlODBiNWFlZA==

Tune in at 10:10am PT on 10/10, as PSA President Ryan Hoge presides over box breaks and pressing questions.
Slide into the comments below or our DMs to submit yours for this IG Live Q&A in advance.

My submitted question, relating to this topic.
https://x.com/35auburn/status/1843845123119165546

It would be a good step forward to taking care alteration seriously.
With the 13 new cert numbers that I have discovered there are likely going to be 400-500 or more cards to check out.

Greg Libersher lists around 50 or more PSA graded cards at auction about once every 3 or 4 weeks under his eBay seller ID of goosescards.
Almost always they are recently graded cards and include many from single submissions.
Whether or not he is submitting under his own name or using someone else is an unknown.
When he was selling under the eBay ID of glibersher, Libersher trimmed almost everything he sent to PSA and
they gave a grade number to practically every card.
I have already outed over 50 Libersher altered PSA 10s.

Auburn, thank you for staying up with these card doctors and playing a very active role in protecting the hobby.

[DragonWagon]

Thank you for all your hard work.

All cards have been added to the Altered Card Database.

[corndog]

PSA 5 to PSA 7

PSA Cert #42613256

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $37.10

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller mzvhxj as a PSA 5 for $16.00 on January 12, 2019.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 7 for $53.10 on August 19, 2019.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed right edge.

[Rooftop]

Where’s Nat? Speak up, you bum..

[corndog]

With this card black ink spots were removed or minimized from the top border, forehead and arm.
Whatever Slight used to remove these spots also removed the ink on the card that makes up the flesh tones.
The skin color change only appears in the area where he worked on minimizing the ink offset.
The altered card is whiter in these areas as you can see.
It looks similar to a glare, but the surface ink is actually gone or greatly reduced.
The halftone ink dots have disappeared.
In the flesh tones of the rest of the card there is no change in color.


SGC 7 to PSA 8

PSA Cert #26490315

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $318.77

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller joesvintagesportscardsii as a SGC 7 for $75.00 on September 07, 2016.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8 for $393.77 on January 19, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify ink removal.

[corndog]

With this card color was added to fill in much of the "snow" in the dark background which was caused by ink offset.
Slight was sloppy with the ink and three areas where he messed up are noted inside the red boxes of the enlarged scans.
For reference, the card as a PSA 7 sold twice - first by Slight on 04-07-2022 and then by Probstein123 on 09-19-2023.
The added color appears in both scans.


PSA 6 to PSA 7

PSA Cert #56245554

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $66.01

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller dhcards as a PSA 6 for $30.00 on August 02, 2019.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 7 for $96.01 on April 07, 2022.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify ink added to fill in offset or "snow".







Probstein123 sale on 09/19/2023 for reference:

[auburn35]

Originally Posted by corndog

It would be a good step forward to taking care alteration seriously.
With the 13 new cert numbers that I have discovered there are likely going to be 400-500 or more cards to check out.

Greg Libersher lists around 50 or more PSA graded cards at auction about once every 3 or 4 weeks under his eBay seller ID of goosescards.
Almost always they are recently graded cards and include many from single submissions.
Whether or not he is submitting under his own name or using someone else is an unknown.
When he was selling under the eBay ID of glibersher, Libersher trimmed almost everything he sent to PSA and
they gave a grade number to practically every card.
I have already outed over 50 Libersher altered PSA 10s.

Auburn, thank you for staying up with these card doctors and playing a very active role in protecting the hobby.

As expected, no direct response to the question(s).

Going to assume the various altered threads (BODA) fall under the "watchdog" title.


Full Q&A, if anyone is interested.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DA9AW..._web_copy_link

[corndog]

With this card black ink spots were removed or minimized from the face and arm.
Whatever Slight used to remove these spots also removed the ink on the card that makes up the flesh tones.
The skin color change only appears in the area where he worked on minimizing the ink offset.
The altered card is whiter in these areas as you can see.
It looks similar to a glare, but the surface ink is actually gone or greatly reduced.
The halftone ink dots have disappeared.
In the flesh tones of the rest of the card there is no change in color.


PSA 6 to PSA 7

PSA Cert #24538756

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $31.01

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller feartheterps as a PSA 6 for $17.99 on June 19, 2015.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 7 for $49.00 on September 16, 2015.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify ink removal. No back image provided with first sale.

[corndog]

PSA 7 to PSA 8

PSA Cert #28840125

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $164.69

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller vintagecardboard as a PSA 7 for $80.00 on January 21, 2018.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8 for $244.69 on April 05, 2018.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.
Chipping matches along the right edge.
No back image provided with first sale.

[corndog]

SGC 5.5 to PSA 7

PSA Cert #43509920

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $53.25

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller fusubryo as a SGC 5.5 for $5.75 on April 13, 2019.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 7 for $59.00 on February 09, 2020.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies trimmed left edge.

[no10pin]

Good lord. So much for upgrading my copy of that one I guess.

[corndog]

With this card black ink spots were removed or minimized from the arm.
I have also included a photo of the front from a later sale in June 2020 that matches the ink removal on the arm from Slight's scan.
Whatever Slight used to remove these spots also removed the ink on the card that makes up the flesh tones.
The skin color change only appears in the area where he worked on minimizing the ink offset.
The altered card is whiter in these areas as you can see.
It looks similar to a glare, but the surface ink is actually gone or greatly reduced.
The halftone ink dots have disappeared.
In the flesh tones of the rest of the card there is no change in color.


PSA 7 to PSA 8

PSA Cert #24854348

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $31.01

PSA Set Registry: Private

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller vintageinvestments1 as a PSA 7 for $69.50 on June 19, 2015.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8 for $173.00 on February 04, 2016.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red box identifies ink removal.

[auburn35]

Wonder if these recent findings will make it into the thread on the CU forums, discussing the same 1976 Brett population.

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...ation-question

[corndog]

Originally Posted by auburn35

Wonder if these recent findings will make it into the thread on the CU forums, discussing the same 1976 Brett population.

https://forums.collectors.com/discus...ation-question

I have two more to post.
A BVG 8 to a PSA 8.5 and a PSA 6 to a PSA 9.

I haven't attempted to link any other 1976 Brett cards to other card doctors yet.
Takes a lot of time.

[corndog]

With this card black ink spots were removed or minimized from the arm and top border.
I have also included a photo of the front from a later sale in April 2019 that matches the ink removal on the arm from Slight's scan.
Whatever Slight used to remove these spots also removed the ink on the card that makes up the flesh tones.
The skin color change only appears in the area where he worked on minimizing the ink offset.
The altered card is whiter in these areas as you can see.
It looks similar to a glare, but the surface ink is actually gone or greatly reduced.
The halftone ink dots have disappeared.
In the flesh tones of the rest of the card there is no change in color.


BVG 8 to PSA 8.5

PSA Cert #26444401

1976 Topps George Brett #19

Value gain of $1,100.00

PSA Set Registry: None found

This card was purchased by VCP masked buyer ID t***c (John and Kamala Slight) from Ebay seller huncus2014 as a BVG 8 for $99.00 on September 07, 2016.

Same card was sold by Ebay seller sundiegocollectibles (John and Kamala Slight) as a PSA 8.5 for $1,199.00 on July 10, 2017.

Yellow circles are print, fiber, stain or chipping identifiers.
Red boxes identify ink removal.