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Old 12-13-2023, 01:22 PM   #301
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The fact that Ja has lost more games because he had a gun than Draymond who has actively tried to hurt multiple players (and succeeded many times) is a bad look for the league for the near future.
I think Draymond deserves ~20 games at this point but Ja also deserved his suspension.

Let's not do the whataboutisms because Ja had plenty of chances to change his behavior and kept doubling down. Ja needed to be made an example of and Draymond needs the same now
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Old 12-13-2023, 01:47 PM   #302
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I think Draymond deserves ~20 games at this point but Ja also deserved his suspension.

Let's not do the whataboutisms because Ja had plenty of chances to change his behavior and kept doubling down. Ja needed to be made an example of and Draymond needs the same now
I think that Ja deserved the punishment but here are the facts so far:

League has suspended Ja for 33 games. No one has been hurt.

League has suspended Draymond for 5 games. One player has been knocked down, one has been hit in the face, one has been choked, one has been walked over (literally), one has been kicked in the balls...and that's not even considering other "minor" incidents.

Draymond should have received a heavier penalty a while ago (like Ja did), why wait so long?
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Old 12-13-2023, 01:58 PM   #303
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Old 12-13-2023, 02:21 PM   #304
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Is his punishment different if he does it to someone that matters like Lebron or Giannis and not Nurcic or Adams. Haven’t followed all the times Draymond acted like a #@#@#@#@#@#@ as there’s too many to remember.
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Old 12-13-2023, 02:30 PM   #305
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I've got news for all of you: A 15-20 game suspension won't change a thing with Draymond..

We are talking about a guy who (arguably) lost his team a title in the NBA finals when he was suspended and that didn't change his behavior.


Does anyone here think a 15-20 game regular season suspension will change things?
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Old 12-13-2023, 02:51 PM   #306
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I think that Ja deserved the punishment but here are the facts so far:

League has suspended Ja for 33 games. No one has been hurt.

League has suspended Draymond for 5 games. One player has been knocked down, one has been hit in the face, one has been choked, one has been walked over (literally), one has been kicked in the balls...and that's not even considering other "minor" incidents.

Draymond should have received a heavier penalty a while ago (like Ja did), why wait so long?
Right but that's what I'm saying. You can't compare the incidents because Ja was given a chance to change his behavior and he shoved it in Silvers face. Silver was going to make an example of him.

You could argue that Silver is going to now make an example out of Draymond now especially after the Rudy headlock. If a big suspension doesn't come down after this then questions need to be asked
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Old 12-13-2023, 02:56 PM   #307
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I'm going with 10-12 games. Personally, I would suspend him 10. Anything 15+ games is emotional and bending to the mob.

Emotional? The guy literally assaults other players, and regularly - and stopping him having the chance to for (only) 15 games would be an emotional thing to do..? Yikes.
How many issues has he had this season alone? Ban him for the rest of the season - and warn him that if he does it again when he returns he'll be added to the NBA's blacklist of those banned forever. Nobody in regular society would have had remotely near the amount of chance he's had.
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Old 12-13-2023, 03:27 PM   #308
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Old 12-13-2023, 03:31 PM   #309
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I've got news for all of you: A 15-20 game suspension won't change a thing with Draymond..

We are talking about a guy who (arguably) lost his team a title in the NBA finals when he was suspended and that didn't change his behavior.


Does anyone here think a 15-20 game regular season suspension will change things?
he wont change but they still have to suspend him.
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Old 12-13-2023, 03:41 PM   #310
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Who cares if Draymond receives a long suspension? The Warriors aren't even contending for anything this season. Draymond doesn't even seem interested in playing games -- he keeps getting ejected and suspended.

Honestly, I think he should retire. He doesn't seem to be having fun playing anymore, and he's already accomplished everything he's going to accomplish -- 4 rings, 1 DPOY, 4 AS etc.

He's an overachiever -- and I mean that in a good way. He's a winner in life and all he's doing now is making people dislike him even more.
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Old 12-13-2023, 03:46 PM   #311
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10, maybe 12 games seems about right to me. I don't think there was a lot of intent there, but he's lost the benefit of the doubt. Reminds me of when LeBron bloodied up Isaiah Stewart's face last year or whenever that was.
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The flagrant 2 was enough, no need to also suspend him.
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Old 12-13-2023, 06:30 PM   #313
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There's,..."competitive-natured", and then there's "THUG MENTALITY"! Green is simply, the latter!

HELLUVA' ball player, no doubt, but;....a gosh damn THUG! If this were an ISO incident (even,..."occasional"!) perhaps it could be......"overlooked" (eg; not such a headline-sports, news event). But,... dude has demonstrated,...time & time, again,....season after season,...he has a habit of beatin' people up on the court!!
If this guy was charged $0.05 per punctuation mark, italics, underline, or bold button smash, BO would be able to lower box prices 40% and still make millions.

Jesus dude. Give it a $&*#ing rest.
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Old 12-13-2023, 06:36 PM   #314
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If this guy was charged $0.05 per punctuation mark, italics, underline, or bold button smash, BO would be able to lower box prices 40% and still make millions.

Jesus dude. Give it a $&*#ing rest.
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Old 12-13-2023, 07:35 PM   #315
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I've got news for all of you: A 15-20 game suspension won't change a thing with Draymond..

We are talking about a guy who (arguably) lost his team a title in the NBA finals when he was suspended and that didn't change his behavior.


Does anyone here think a 15-20 game regular season suspension will change things?
I really think a lengthy suspension is more a reassurance to the players who aren’t reacting. They need to know they’re not just punching bags at this point. The fear is another short one is going to encourage that one player to risk it
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:05 PM   #316
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Indefinite suspension. deserved
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:11 PM   #317
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The flagrant 2 was enough, no need to also suspend him.
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:16 PM   #318
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Indefinite suspension. deserved
Kerr will probably get on his puplate now and complain how unjust this is.
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Going to be a long negotiation between the league and the NBPA on this one. Should be something like 25 games without pay and a stipulation that if he assaults anyone in the future, he’s banned for life.
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Old 12-13-2023, 08:37 PM   #320
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Kerr will probably get on his puplate now and complain how unjust this is.
Kerr understands the optics are so bad at this point he better keep his mouth shut
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Draymond is obviously a dirty player...anybody trying to defend him at this point just stop

Hit lebron in the nuts, Steven Adams kicked in the groin, Sabonis chest stomp, strangled Gobert, punched Nurkic in the face
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Draymond is obviously a dirty player...anybody trying to defend him at this point just stop

Hit lebron in the nuts, Steven Adams kicked in the groin, Sabonis chest stomp, strangled Gobert, punched Nurkic in the face

Don't forget punching his teammate out in practice. This is a long time coming for probably the most disgraceful player to put on an NBA uniform
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Draymond is obviously a dirty player...anybody trying to defend him at this point just stop

Hit lebron in the nuts, Steven Adams kicked in the groin, Sabonis chest stomp, strangled Gobert, punched Nurkic in the face
Did he actually hit Lebron in the junk? It looked like he just took a swipe at them while Lebron was standing over him, but didn't actually make contact. I would think Lebron would have had a different reaction if he did.

I kind of blame Gobert for the extended chokehold -- he didn't tap out. Oh wait, this isn't the WWE -- never mind.
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Old 12-13-2023, 09:13 PM   #325
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Don't forget punching his teammate out in practice. This is a long time coming for probably the most disgraceful player to put on an NBA uniform
Holy hyperbole batman. Forget about the woman beaters and pedos? Or you have different morals than most?
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