Roki Sasaki - It's Happening!!!

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Tom Oates

That and his annual salary, AND... he can pretty much count on playoff checks EVERY year. You can't say that about Toronto or San Diego. Let's be honest, anyone should be able to live their life in luxury for their remaining years on $6.5 Million (Minus taxes and agent fees). Oh yea, let's not forget any endorsement deals he gets. The kid will be just fine! Go Blue!

Plus whatever money he's getting under the table from Ohtani lol

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by rms13

Imagine if he came over and flamed out after 3 years and went back to Japan. Imagine if he came to MLB and played 20 years and hit .260 with 200 HR. I can imagine a lot of things. The talent disparity between MLB and NPB in Oh's day was much greater then it is today and it's still pretty big. In the history of baseball Ichiro and Ohtani and the only two Japanese players who've come to MLB and had no drop off from their performance in Japan.

Tyler Austin and Domingo Santana were the two best hitters in Japan last year. Why don't they just come to the MLB and do the same thing? Because they already played in MLB and had to leave because they suck.

I remember when the Red Sox got Dice K. He was a phenomenon in Japan going back to high school. He had the same hype and bidding war as Sasaki. He had a decent career in MLB but he definitely wasn't the perineal Cy Young winner people were hoping for. Sasaki may end up being the greatest pitcher of his generation but he'll probably end up being 20-30% worse then he was in Japan.

Very true....Nomo, Dice K, Darvish, and Imanga have all been good, solid starters.

But none have become #1 starters or true superstars.

[DMACcollector]

Dodgers will have some tough decisions to make when all arms are healthy. Let’s say Ohtani pitches this year and Kershaw signs yet another 1 year deal. The rotation will be stacked to the point that Roki might be stuck in AA or AAA all year, or at least until more injuries occur. He’s never pitched more than 130 frames in a season in NPB, so I’d think they wouldn’t rush him with all the rotation possibilities. Even if Ohtani doesn’t pitch right away they’d still field a rotation of Yamamoto, Snell, Glasnow, Kershaw, Gonsolin, and May.

[BambinoShuffle]

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Dodgers will have some tough decisions to make when all arms are healthy. Let’s say Ohtani pitches this year and Kershaw signs yet another 1 year deal. The rotation will be stacked to the point that Roki might be stuck in AA or AAA all year, or at least until more injuries occur. He’s never pitched more than 130 frames in a season in NPB, so I’d think they wouldn’t rush him with all the rotation possibilities. Even if Ohtani doesn’t pitch right away they’d still field a rotation of Yamamoto, Snell, Glasnow, Kershaw, Gonsolin, and May.

The Dodgers haven't had a pitcher go more than 140 IP since 2022. They're just stacking up starters who can pitch 2/3rds of a season at a high level.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

The Dodgers haven't had a pitcher go more than 140 IP since 2022. They're just stacking up starters who can pitch 2/3rds of a season at a high level.

They don't need to, its all about the playoffs where they can each guy throw 4 innings. This team should win 110 games next year in their sleep. In 2022 they won 111, last year was a "down" year with only 98 and that was with losing Mookie for a lot of the year.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by JRX

They don't need to, its all about the playoffs where they can each guy throw 4 innings. This team should win 110 games next year in their sleep. In 2022 they won 111, last year was a "down" year with only 98 and that was with losing Mookie for a lot of the year.

Along with multiple starters for the year and every single starter going down for some period of time.

[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

The Dodgers haven't had a pitcher go more than 140 IP since 2022. They're just stacking up starters who can pitch 2/3rds of a season at a high level.

Bingo. Glasnow, Kershaw, and May will not be healthy all season, so that's where the other arms come in for depth and reinforcements. I'm also not convinced Yamamoto can pitch 140-150 innings either.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Very true....Nomo, Dice K, Darvish, and Imanga have all been good, solid starters.



But none have become #1 starters or true superstars.

Maeda and Tanaka too. All solid but not as good as in Japan. And most of them dropped off after the first year or or two in MLB. Most Japanese pitchers rely on some sort of deception in their delivery but it doesn't work as well once the league has seen them a couple of times. Yamamoto was sold last year, 3.00 era in 18 starts but he had a 1.82 era over 7 seasons in NPB.

[DMACcollector]

Originally Posted by rms13

Maeda and Tanaka too. All solid but not as good as in Japan. And most of them dropped off after the first year or or two in MLB. Most Japanese pitchers rely on some sort of deception in their delivery but it doesn't work as well once the league has seen them a couple of times. Yamamoto was sold last year, 3.00 era in 18 starts but he had a 1.82 era over 7 seasons in NPB.

Then why is everyone crying about these signings if their shelf life of effectiveness in MLB is so limited.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Time for a salary cap.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Then why is everyone crying about these signings if their shelf life of effectiveness in MLB is so limited.

Is the denial stage after the anger stage?

[DMACcollector]

Originally Posted by Rage

Is the denial stage after the anger stage?

Denial is the first stage of the grieving process, then anger.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by awz50

Salary Cap won't fix anything

Fixed.

[Skipscards]

Roki will earn more in 2025 than Ohtani.

[jcchungtiger]

I sold a psa 10 wbc refractor /499 last night for 500 bin.

Was curious if others had sold after the dodgers news. Didn’t see many sales but did see a blue psa 10 wbc /75 for 750.

Bought that, so upgraded from /499 to /75 for around 350.

Woke up this morning and another blue sold for 1k

Hopefully a good move, time will tell I guess, but the blue dodger color match is a good lookin card!

[itsbaytime]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

Time for a salary cap.

Like 30 years ago.

[padremurph]

Bummed he’s going to the dodgers. At least I’m making a little money on my ‘21 NPB chrome stash.

Just bet the under on Ks too. As everyone saying, Dodgers are going to limit his innings and I would be surprised if he makes an IL stint like Yamamoto did last year.

[rms13]

Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Then why is everyone crying about these signings if their shelf life of effectiveness in MLB is so limited.

Exactly. Because of the Ohtani effect everyone thinks every Japanese player is going to be a HOF level player. Sasaki will probably be a #3-4 starter at the end of the day. Maybe he'll be better but I wouldn't expect it. But still the Dodgers are stacked. He won't need to be more then a #5 starter with the Dodgers.

[StateEx]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

The Dodgers haven't had a pitcher go more than 140 IP since 2022. They're just stacking up starters who can pitch 2/3rds of a season at a high level.

It might be worse than that. Pretty much every one of their possible starters have both an injury and an effectiveness question mark attached (sometimes linked, as Ohtani). Personally, I'd take the Diamondbacks' rotation over the Dodgers'.

[base set]

Just have the Dodgers play the Savanna Bananas every day with rules determined dynamically by refs from the WWF and call it a day.



Also…Kershaw to the Rangers, finally?

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Roki will earn more in 2025 than Ohtani.

No he won't. He's only eligible for a minor league deal which will be less then $2 million per year. And if we're talking pure earnings Ohtani made over $100 million in endorsement deals last year from what I've seen reported and I don't expect Sasaki to match that.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by base set

Just have the Dodgers play the Savanna Bananas every day with rules determined dynamically by refs from the WWF and call it a day.



Also…Kershaw to the Rangers, finally?

Zero chance he doesn’t come back to the Dodgers(if he comes back) as his retirement year. They’ll have ample injuries and opportunity.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by rms13

No he won't. He's only eligible for a minor league deal which will be less then $2 million per year. And if we're talking pure earnings Ohtani made over $100 million in endorsement deals last year from what I've seen reported and I don't expect Sasaki to match that.

Still nobody seems to understand Othani's contract. Ohtani gets 2M, the Dodgers put another ~43M in escrow that pays him 68M in 10 years. For luxury tax purposes its like the Dodgers are paying Ohtani ~46M a year. Ohtani agreed to take a below market rate of return so he could say he got a 700M contract which in hindsight is laughable since it took exactly 1 year for another player to surpass that.

[Jaypers]

Just picked up a few of his Topps Now cards. First card in a Dodger uni and all.