⛏⛏⛏ The Official 2025 San Francisco 49ers Thread: Return of the Purdi ⛏⛏⛏

[49erRCCollector]

I’m loving it so far. But I would like to see some OLine next.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I’m loving it so far. But I would like to see some OLine next.

The main thing they need they have not addressed much

[Archangel1775]

This definitely has the influence of Lynch and Saleh. I know depth was an issue on the DL but there were a lot of run-stopping hogs on the board. The overall grade between the top OT that was available and the next was decently wide. I was leaning towards OT for sure. Maybe they are giving Shanahan all the rest of the picks? Haha

[Archangel1775]

Welcome Aboard, 2nd and 3rd Round Picks in order drafted

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I’m loving it so far. But I would like to see some OLine next.

You can like the players while still admitting we reached on all 3 yesterday. Each guy was projected to be available a round or two later.
We could’ve gotten Ersery at 43, Collins at 75, and Martin and Stout on day 3.


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[anusinha]

Trying to win every game 2-0 I see. Trying to tank Purdys stats so he cant get a huge contract.

[Archangel1775]

Need an OL here with the last pick in Round 5. The LSU or Texas dawgs are fine.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Need an OL here with the last pick in Round 5. The LSU or Texas dawgs are fine.

Oh gawd. Well, I hope our defense is like the 2000 Ravens because what the heck.

[hermanotarjeta]

Rourke leverage.

[BonVoyage]

I’ve generally been a big Shanahan / Lynch defender but this draft feels like they were more concerned with proving a point than actually making the team better.
They drafted not one but two nickel cb / special teamers before drafting any OL.


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[BonVoyage]

Well now that we know Mustapha will likely miss the start of the year the Sigle pick makes a little more sense. Athletic still projects journeyman Jason Pinnock to start over Sigle though.
Draft rankings have not been kind to the Niners draft. I've seen two D grades, a 22nd ranked, and a 26th ranked. Athletic's Dane Brugler said the exact same thing I did about Day 2, that each of the 3 picks would've been available later.

[Archangel1775]

They drafted one OL, that was the biggest problem

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by BonVoyage

Well now that we know Mustapha will likely miss the start of the year the Sigle pick makes a little more sense. Athletic still projects journeyman Jason Pinnock to start over Sigle though.
Draft rankings have not been kind to the Niners draft. I've seen two D grades, a 22nd ranked, and a 26th ranked. Athletic's Dane Brugler said the exact same thing I did about Day 2, that each of the 3 picks would've been available later.

They don't know though. The divide between evaluations, media guys placing mock "value" to guys in certain rounds and where guys should have been drafted is pretty wide?

Outside of the top 5 picks, is anyone going to claim - WITH CONFIDENCE - that any player is a guaranteed superstar in this draft?

What I see is a number of young defenders with solid histories being drafted with team that understands HOW to use these athletes in the Saleh scheme.

Going back to Mike Shanahan, this scheme never needed superstar O line personnel to get production on the ground. So if the line can be OK, they'll be fine. This draft was weak and I'm not sure there was a lot of distinction between guys going round 2 versus guys going round 5. So I imagine in a draft like this, best to get the guys that can play your scheme as they become available.

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

They drafted one OL, that was the biggest problem

They drafted a 4th QB because they like having 4 QBs in the offseason. Only problem is this QB had knee surgery in Jan so his participation is doubtful for the offseason.

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

They don't know though. The divide between evaluations, media guys placing mock "value" to guys in certain rounds and where guys should have been drafted is pretty wide?

Outside of the top 5 picks, is anyone going to claim - WITH CONFIDENCE - that any player is a guaranteed superstar in this draft?

What I see is a number of young defenders with solid histories being drafted with team that understands HOW to use these athletes in the Saleh scheme.

Going back to Mike Shanahan, this scheme never needed superstar O line personnel to get production on the ground. So if the line can be OK, they'll be fine. This draft was weak and I'm not sure there was a lot of distinction between guys going round 2 versus guys going round 5. So I imagine in a draft like this, best to get the guys that can play your scheme as they become available.

Part 1 supports my point that they should've traded back from 11. They were just outside range for the Elite prospects.

For part 2 I believe the consensus was that while this was a down year for QBs or elite players in general, it was actually strong in rounds 2-3.

[49erRCCollector]

Originally Posted by BonVoyage

Part 1 supports my point that they should've traded back from 11. They were just outside range for the Elite prospects.

For part 2 I believe the consensus was that while this was a down year for QBs or elite players in general, it was actually strong in rounds 2-3.

I don't know... The Niners need players, like warm bodies who can play to pair with their stars. So you count on Bosa, Warner, Deommodore to lead their position groups but cheap young talent needs to be on the field in September. Williams was drafted expressly for his fit in the Saleh scheme and CJ West is a good comp for DJ Jones who was great at playing the run. I'm not sure trading back (or trading up) was really something they were in position to do since they needed starter and depth guys. And the missions is clear: STOP THE RUN. This year and next year - between those two drafts, you need those picks to sustain the team and maybe hit a few gems. But if you reach for guys that actually fit scheme rather than maybe missing out and playing the "best available" game? Dangerous when you know that you gotta pay Purdy and George and that Trent doesn't come off the books until likely next year. You gotta have somebody in the right spot.

I didn't see a huge gap in talent for rounds 2-5. Maybe time will prove me wrong.

[49erRCCollector]

Also, here's a Jake Moody card to cheer you up:

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I don't know... The Niners need players, like warm bodies who can play to pair with their stars. So you count on Bosa, Warner, Deommodore to lead their position groups but cheap young talent needs to be on the field in September. Williams was drafted expressly for his fit in the Saleh scheme and CJ West is a good comp for DJ Jones who was great at playing the run. I'm not sure trading back (or trading up) was really something they were in position to do since they needed starter and depth guys. And the missions is clear: STOP THE RUN. This year and next year - between those two drafts, you need those picks to sustain the team and maybe hit a few gems. But if you reach for guys that actually fit scheme rather than maybe missing out and playing the "best available" game? Dangerous when you know that you gotta pay Purdy and George and that Trent doesn't come off the books until likely next year. You gotta have somebody in the right spot.

I didn't see a huge gap in talent for rounds 2-5. Maybe time will prove me wrong.

Don't disagree with this part, which is why it would've made so much more sense to trade back from 11 and get two players rated 89 instead of one rated 91. Two warm bodies, two chances someone turns in to a gem, etc

[duwal]

Kittle with a 4 year, 76 million extension

[BonVoyage]

Now that rosters are cut to 53 to start the year, I thought it'd be interesting to check how many players are still with the Niners by draft class.

Rnd 2025
1 Mykel Williams Starting DL
2 Alfred Collins Backup DL (initial reports have not been positive though)
3 Nick Martin Backup LB (was brought in to give competition to Dee Winters and apparently Winters brought his A game)
3 Upton Stout Starting CB (nickel)
4 CJ West Backup DL
4 Jordan Watkins Backup WR
5 Jordan James Backup RB
5 Marques Sigle Starting S (this is conjecture but most reports I've seen say Sigle and free agent Pinnock will be starting S)
7 Kurtis Rourke Injured
7 Connor Colby Backup OL
7 Junior Bergen Cut Aug 2025

2024
1 Ricky Pearsall Starting WR
2 Renardo Green Starting CB
3 Dominick Puni Starting OL
4 Malik Mustapha Injured
4 Isaac Guerendo Backup RB
4 Jacob Cowing Injured
6 Jarrett Kingston Cut Aug 2024 (camp reports were positive but Niners tried to sneak him through waivers and he signed with CAR)
7 Tatum Bethune Backup LB

2023
3 Ji'Ayir Brown Backup S (started 13g last year but saw some reports Niners might trade him before cut down this year)
3 Jake Moody Starting K
3 Cameron Latu Cut 2024
5 Darrell Luter Backup CB
5 Robert Beal Backup DL
6 Dee Winters Starting LB
7 Brayden Willis Cut Aug 2025
7 Ronnie Bell Released Winter/Spring 2025
7 Jalen Graham Cut Aug 2025

2022
2 Drake Jackson Released Winter/Spring 2025
3 Tyrion Davis-Price Released Winter/Spring 2024
3 Danny Gray Cut Aug 2024 - out of NFL
4 Spencer Burford Backup OL
5 Samuel Womack Cut Aug 2024
6 Nick Zakelj Cut Aug 2025
6 Kalia Davis Backup DL
6 Tariq Castro-Fields Cut Aug 2022
7 Brock Purdy Starting QB

2021
1 Trey Lance Traded 2023
2 Aaron Banks Signed elsewhere as FA
3 Trey Sermon Cut Aug 2022
3 Ambry Thomas Released Winter/Spring 2025
5 Jaylon Moore Signed elsewhere as FA
5 Deommodore Lenoir Starting CB
5 Talanoa Hufanga Signed elsewhere as FA
6 Elijah Mitchell Signed elsewhere as FA

2020
1 Javon Kinlaw Signed elsewhere as FA
1 Brandon Aiyuk Injured
5 Colton McKivitz Starting OL
6 Charlie Woerner Signed elsewhere as FA
7 Jauan Jennings Starting WR

[anusinha]

21 and 22 are absolutely brutal aside from Purdy

[Brazenways]

Very high quality post voyage

I went a couple years further and you have one player left from each draft year 2020 to 2017.

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by anusinha

21 and 22 are absolutely brutal aside from Purdy

Originally Posted by anusinha

21 and 22 are absolutely brutal aside from Purdy

Ya know, I thought so too at first but 2021 wasn’t as awful as it looks. Honestly we should probably be pleased/satisfied with 6 of their 8 picks in that draft. The Lance trade was abysmal obviously, and Sermon did not last long despite seeming like a good fit when drafted. But everyone else turned out to be good value for their draft place, realistically. Lenoir looks like a steal. Banks, Moore, & Huf all got good money in free agency. Mitchell did well when healthy, not bad for a late rounder. Even Ambry Thomas showed flashes and stuck around for all 4 years of his rookie deal, again not bad for a 3rd rounder. Could you point at someone drafted later and say “Well they could’ve taken X person here and he turned out better” but that’s not realistic.


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[JWBlue]

There is a non-zero chance Purdy breaks out this season and goes nuts.

Purdy at +2000 to win MVP is not a bad wager.

[BonVoyage]

Originally Posted by Brazenways

Very high quality post voyage

I went a couple years further and you have one player left from each draft year 2020 to 2017.

You shamed me in to it, here's 2017 to 2019

2019
1 Nick Bosa Starting DL
2 Deebo Samuel Traded 2024
3 Jalen Hurd Released Winter 2021
4 Mitch Wishnowsky Released Spring 2025
5 Dre Greenlaw Signed elsewhere as FA
6 Kaden Smith Released 2019
6 Justin Skule Cut Aug 2022
6 Tim Harris Cut Aug 2021

2018
1 Mike McGlinchey Signed elsewhere as FA
2 Dante Pettis Released Nov 2020
3 Fred Warner Starting LB
3 Tarvarius Moore Cut Aug 2021
4 Kentavius Street Released Summer 2020
5 D.J. Reed Cut Aug 2020
6 Marcell Harris Released Winter 2021 - out of NFL
7 Jullian Taylor Released Winter 2020 - out of NFL
7 Richie James Released Winter 2021 - out of NFL

2017
1 Solomon Thomas Signed elsewhere as FA
1 Reuben Foster Released winter 2018 - out of NFL
3 Ahkello Witherspoon Signed elsewhere as FA
3 C.J. Beathard Signed elsewhere as FA
4 Joe Williams Cut 2017 - out of NFL
5 George Kittle Starting TE
5 Trent Taylor Signed elsewhere as FA
6 D.J. Jones Signed elsewhere as FA
6 Pita Taumoepenu Released spring 2019 - out of NFL
7 Adrian Colbert Cut 2019