Running CGC (old CSG) Order Tracker - Page 130

grade · 10-11-2022, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mnckla22

I thought about that, but I assume he wants us to block him so he is able to just keep posting misleading information without repercussions. Not saying all his stuff is wrong though

I was a lurker before creating an account to post. I assume there are plenty of lurkers without accounts thinking what he says is true. It best to have all information than just information from one side

You are smart. I block nobody. Knowing both sides of every argument or situation is key in making smart decisions.

I learn a lot from people i disagree with. Not only for cards, but business and everyday life. Only fools decide with information from one side opinions.

mnckla22 · 10-11-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

LOL. Why dont you post in the PSA threads if you honestsly think CSG is more valuable than PSA ?

Any of you actually sold a CSG / CGC slab over $500, $1000 + ?

Let see this place get quiet now.

I am not good at posting pictures but I do have a few I sold via COMC

2008 Ultimate Collection - [Base] #107
Rookie Jersey Autograph - Clayton Kershaw [CSG 6.5 Ex/NM+] #/98 [edit] [share]
Item: 111262444
N/A
$720.00

A BGS 7 sold on the same day for $850 via fixed price. Mine was a CSG 6.5, I see a PSA sold for $800 a little earlier but I can't tell the grade from terapeak

The_Reverend · 10-11-2022, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mnckla22

I am not good at posting pictures but I do have a few I sold via COMC

2008 Ultimate Collection - [Base] #107
Rookie Jersey Autograph - Clayton Kershaw [CSG 6.5 Ex/NM+] #/98 [edit] [share]
Item: 111262444
N/A
$720.00

A BGS 7 sold on the same day for $850 via fixed price. Mine was a CSG 6.5, I see a PSA sold for $800 a little earlier but I can't tell the grade from terapeak

The facts remain my friend that the big price differences are usually at the Gem Mint rate. People are more likely to buy the card in lower grades and the CSG slab cannot be beat when they do.

discodanman45 · 10-11-2022, 10:42 AM

I don't have any really expensive cards from CSG, but I am sure the following would sell very close to PSA equivalents. People will buy these for eye appeal and scarcity. The cards inside the holder don't need PSA to make them more valuable. Yes, if you are grading $3 cards then you have to use PSA to make them valuable. The card in the holder is trash, but you are paying the PSA 10 label.

TSonn · 10-11-2022, 10:50 AM

This guy just popped! Would probably sell for more than $500.

TSonn · 10-11-2022, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

I don't have any really expensive cards from CSG, but I am sure the following would sell very close to PSA equivalents. People will buy these for eye appeal and scarcity. The cards inside the holder don't need PSA to make them more valuable. Yes, if you are grading $3 cards then you have to use PSA to make them valuable. The card in the holder is trash, but you are paying the PSA 10 label.

Lol yes!

Great vintage cards!

mnckla22 · 10-11-2022, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

Excellent. You are a minority here. All these experts of CSG / CGC here talk about huge value but rarely sell cards over $100 . LOL This is why i am here. They try and give the impression that $500 CSG/CGC slabs are flying off the self and normal everyday prices.

I think a factor would be that most high value cards worth grading before CSG/CGC time would of already been graded. That might explain why Pokémon is seeing so many cards graded now, back then it might of not made sense but that changed in the last few years. Even right now with each new release of sports cards, what percent of those cards would even be considered high value.

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

The facts remain my friend that the big price differences are usually at the Gem Mint rate. People are more likely to buy the card in lower grades and the CSG slab cannot be beat when they do.

Very true. I have seen that for most sales of my non CSG 10 stuff. Even though I think PSA 10s are overpriced I think we can all agree a rising tide boost all ships. PSA 10s have gotten people accustomed to paying more for gem mint cards. Whether that is good thing or bad thing is up in the air.

discodanman45 · 10-11-2022, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

This guy just popped! Would probably sell for more than $500.

That is a great card and just needs a holder for authenticity and the approximate condition. Flippers like grade need the PSA label to make their card "scarce" and worth money with "low pops." Cards like this are worth money in a PSA/CSG/BGS/SGC slab. People are buying the card and not trying to get registry points or a perfect card. Grade only cares about $2 base cards that are worth $60 in a PSA 10 holder and $15 in a CSG holder. He is upset that crap cards are worth crap in CSG holders since he can't make money on them.

mnckla22 · 10-11-2022, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

This guy just popped! Would probably sell for more than $500.

Very nice!!!

[QUOTE=discodanman45;18479238]I don't have any really expensive cards from CSG, but I am sure the following would sell very close to PSA equivalents. People will buy these for eye appeal and scarcity. The cards inside the holder don't need PSA to make them more valuable. Yes, if you are grading $3 cards then you have to use PSA to make them valuable. The card in the holder is trash, but you are paying the PSA 10 label.

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

That is a great card and just needs a holder for authenticity and the approximate condition. Flippers like grade need the PSA label to make their card "scarce" and worth money with "low pops." Cards like this are worth money in a PSA/CSG/BGS/SGC slab. People are buying the card and not trying to get registry points or a perfect card. Grade only cares about $2 base cards that are worth $60 in a PSA 10 holder and $15 in a CSG holder. He is upset that crap cards are worth crap in CSG holders since he can't make money on them.

Can never go wrong with Musial or Aaron. Agree on the authenticity part, big factor in this day and age of fakes. Nice to know each company will make things right if it deemed a fake

thewesdub · 10-11-2022, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TSonn

This guy just popped! Would probably sell for more than $500.

That is sweet!

The_Reverend · 10-11-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mnckla22

I am not good at posting pictures but I do have a few I sold via COMC

2008 Ultimate Collection - [Base] #107
Rookie Jersey Autograph - Clayton Kershaw [CSG 6.5 Ex/NM+] #/98 [edit] [share]
Item: 111262444
N/A
$720.00

A BGS 7 sold on the same day for $850 via fixed price. Mine was a CSG 6.5, I see a PSA sold for $800 a little earlier but I can't tell the grade from terapeak

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Originally Posted by TSonn

This guy just popped! Would probably sell for more than $500.

That card looks amazing!!!

The_Reverend · 10-11-2022, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

That is a great card and just needs a holder for authenticity and the approximate condition. Flippers like grade need the PSA label to make their card "scarce" and worth money with "low pops." Cards like this are worth money in a PSA/CSG/BGS/SGC slab. People are buying the card and not trying to get registry points or a perfect card. Grade only cares about $2 base cards that are worth $60 in a PSA 10 holder and $15 in a CSG holder. He is upset that crap cards are worth crap in CSG holders since he can't make money on them.

Exactly. I have a Kirill Kaprizov ultimate collection auto csg 10/10 and I guarantee it would sell for a lot more than $500. Grade is a troll and is still salty because of his Pokémon stuff with CGC!!!

jtclockwork · 10-11-2022, 03:55 PM

I still have to use my voucher. I'm probably going to go with a bunch of low grade T206s. Recent sales of low grade T206 commons are virtually identical to what I paid for SGC graded ones last month.

discodanman45 · 10-11-2022, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jtclockwork

I still have to use my voucher. I'm probably going to go with a bunch of low grade T206s. Recent sales of low grade T206 commons are virtually identical to what I paid for SGC graded ones last month.

Only issue is the stupid plastic sleeve inside. Wish they had nice slabs designed for T206 cards!

jtclockwork · 10-11-2022, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

Only issue is the stupid plastic sleeve inside. Wish they had nice slabs designed for T206 cards!

I agree with that. If I'm buying pre-slabbed T206, I go for SGC first as I love the look unless it's a great bargain deal. But with the voucher, CSG comes out to around $6 a card, so I can't really beat that price and still retain value on them.

For comparison, I paid $52 for a Knabe Piedmont in SGC 2 and $50 for a Clymer SGC 2.5. I was outbid on four CSG-graded T206s this week in 1.5-2 grade, which all sold in the $47-63 range.

kon jelly · 10-11-2022, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by grade

LOL
Still the most expensive CSG/CGC slabs sold
#1 mnckla22

There is not even a #2.

WTH ?

Got Pokemon cards are worth more then the Kirill and Mahomes these guys post.

POKEMON, LOL Beginning to think you CSG peoples are trolling yourselves.

I don't understand why it matters, but I sold a 2011 Trout CSG 10 for $1500 a few months back. Also a bat down Acuna for $1200 before his prices tanked this year.

mc1 · 10-11-2022, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by grade

Would and did are 2 different worlds.

Anyone actually sell (will lower the bar , as i see nobody sells CSG slabs here).
$300, $400 , $500 $1000+ ??

Had a suspicion not many actually sell over a few hundred bucks.

True collectors keep cards, you know COLLECT.

Flippers only grade to sell.

JWBlue · 10-11-2022, 10:05 PM

What impact does Fantatics partnering with CSG have on future values? Has to matter a lot doesn't it?

discodanman45 · 10-11-2022, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

What impact does Fantatics partnering with CSG have on future values? Has to matter a lot doesn't it?

That is all pure speculation. The connection is that Blackstone Group Inc. bought CCG. Michael Rubin was part of this purchase with other people and groups. The only tie to Fanatics is Rubin, but his stake in this is probably very small. Blackstone is really in charge of this purchase.

discodanman45 · 10-11-2022, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mc1

True collectors keep cards, you know COLLECT.

Flippers only grade to sell.

By grade's card selling threads, it doesn't look like he is selling as well. He has things priced 10x's their value and no one ever claims his cards. Grade is a collector because he can't sell his cards.

discodanman45 · 10-13-2022, 11:45 AM

My 25 card "bulk" order arrived on 10/7 and showed up as received on 10/12. I doubt the 20-day estimate is even close to correct.

The_Reverend · 10-13-2022, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by discodanman45

My 25 card "bulk" order arrived on 10/7 and showed up as received on 10/12. I doubt the 20-day estimate is even close to correct.

They might be speeding up. Grading is down across the board and I am loving the reduced prices and turnaround time. I am getting a PC standard ready because of the value of the cards,

Kirill Kaprizov Achievment MVP RC /25
2019-20 Kirill Kaprizov XRC Auto
Topps archive Peach auto Aaron Judge /150
Skybkx premium Rubies /50
Metal Universe RED PMG

These just came back yesterday.

kon jelly · 10-13-2022, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by grade

TAT is only a part of the full circle/picture of the graded card sector.

Anyone qualify for the actual prices realized for CSG/CGC slabs ?

I thought CSG was getting top money ?

If you are really concerned about finding high end sales of CSG, just read their blog. They post things like that on occasion.

https://www.csgcards.com/news/articl...ed-brady-pwcc/

But why do you care??

The_Reverend · 10-13-2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kon jelly

If you are really concerned about finding high end sales of CSG, just read their blog. They post things like that on occasion.

https://www.csgcards.com/news/articl...ed-brady-pwcc/

But why do you care??

He doesn’t. He is just an instigator and stirs the pot. His whole life must be to be negative on forum threads, all of them. SMH, but I only see his stuff when he is quoted. Lol!

kon jelly · 10-13-2022, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

He doesn’t. He is just an instigator and stirs the pot. His whole life must be to be negative on forum threads, all of them. SMH, but I only see his stuff when he is quoted. Lol!

Yeah I've got him on ignore now. He's seriously the most annoying poster on this site, and that's saying a lot.

10-11-2022, 10:42 AM	#3229
discodanman45 Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: CA Posts: 9,707 danch27	I don't have any really expensive cards from CSG, but I am sure the following would sell very close to PSA equivalents. People will buy these for eye appeal and scarcity. The cards inside the holder don't need PSA to make them more valuable. Yes, if you are grading $3 cards then you have to use PSA to make them valuable. The card in the holder is trash, but you are paying the PSA 10 label. __________________ Updating my entire collection on Card Ladder. Lots to go... https://www.cardladder.com/showcase/IOBB7AY2qTVVKSgU9Aqj02kfF4I3

10-13-2022, 11:45 AM	#3246
discodanman45 Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: CA Posts: 9,707 danch27	My 25 card "bulk" order arrived on 10/7 and showed up as received on 10/12. I doubt the 20-day estimate is even close to correct. __________________ Updating my entire collection on Card Ladder. Lots to go... https://www.cardladder.com/showcase/IOBB7AY2qTVVKSgU9Aqj02kfF4I3

10-11-2022, 10:50 AM	#3230
TSonn Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Michigan Posts: 5,983 TSonnMI	This guy just popped! Would probably sell for more than $500.

10-11-2022, 03:55 PM	#3238
jtclockwork Member Join Date: Jun 2022 Posts: 434	I still have to use my voucher. I'm probably going to go with a bunch of low grade T206s. Recent sales of low grade T206 commons are virtually identical to what I paid for SGC graded ones last month.

10-11-2022, 10:05 PM	#3243
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,489	What impact does Fantatics partnering with CSG have on future values? Has to matter a lot doesn't it?