WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1377

Jaypers · 12-13-2018, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Don't even bother responding to him. I stopped taking his bait a couple years ago and it's so much better. He's either completely insane or 100% troll.

Why can't both be true?

Bostonfan0118 · 12-13-2018, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Don't even bother responding to him. I stopped taking his bait a couple years ago and it's so much better. He's either completely insane or 100% troll.

100% troll

mikecamp99 · 12-13-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

Fake fan.

Fans aren't allowed to hate the product the company they like puts out? Sorry, but your more of a fake fan pretending everything is great and thinking there's not a single thing wrong with the product, or the record low ratings. True fans want to see the company thrive and put out a good product. It's worse than stale right now. TLC doesn't have anything of interest for me, I'll wait to listen to the podcast review and won't even think about turning it on.

DarthRogahn · 12-14-2018, 07:57 AM

The weird thing is both sides are right on this.
The product (defines as main roster Raw/Smackdown) is pretty stale and ratings are horrible.
On the flip side the company is doing really well in terms of profit, TV deals, revenue and on and on.

A weird time for long time fans for sure.

mikecamp99 · 12-14-2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthRogahn

The weird thing is both sides are right on this.
The product (defines as main roster Raw/Smackdown) is pretty stale and ratings are horrible.
On the flip side the company is doing really well in terms of profit, TV deals, revenue and on and on.

A weird time for long time fans for sure.

You are right, the business side of things is doing great. Record TV deals are keeping the company very profitable. So in that sense WWE is doing fine, so who cares about the low ratings

But while the money is there right now, if they keep driving fans away they aren’t going to continue getting these type of deals 20-30 years from now. Not only is that ratings super low but attendances are going down as well meaning ticket sales aren’t that great and outside of guys like maybe Roman, merch sales are down too.

It’s a good time for WWE right now for sure. But we shall see what happens if they continue the road they’re down what it will look like in the future.

Wolves4Life · 12-14-2018, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Fans aren't allowed to hate the product the company they like puts out? Sorry, but your more of a fake fan pretending everything is great and thinking there's not a single thing wrong with the product, or the record low ratings. True fans want to see the company thrive and put out a good product. It's worse than stale right now. TLC doesn't have anything of interest for me, I'll wait to listen to the podcast review and won't even think about turning it on.

I don't pretend everything is great, I just don't nitpick every little thing. There are sometimes I do get frustrated but i'm entertained every show whether I like some things or not.

Kingofkings1281 · 12-14-2018, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I don't pretend everything is great, I just don't nitpick every little thing. There are sometimes I do get frustrated but i'm entertained every show whether I like some things or not.

You might be one of the only people left who actually enjoy anything they do at this point. I’ve never seen them lazier than they are right now and they have zero star power left. Smackdown is ok, but I’m done with Raw until Lesnar comes back.

mnvikingstwins · 12-14-2018, 11:49 PM

Pretty good Becky on E&C podcast today

LC2nine10 · 12-15-2018, 03:29 PM

Is there nxt tonite? I thought there usually was before ppvs

mikecamp99 · 12-15-2018, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LC2nine10

Is there nxt tonite? I thought there usually was before ppvs

Not this month. Usually only on the weekends of the big 4; Rumble, Mania, SummerSlam and Survivor Series. I think there have been talks of more being added eventually.

mikecamp99 · 12-15-2018, 05:49 PM

Sounds like Vince McMahon is coming to Raw Monday to "Shake things up." I can only imagine what that might be. I think after last weeks Seth Rollins promo, and now him going on Raw this coming week to make changes, maybe Vince has finally woken up and sees things have to change. Guess we will see what happens.

LC2nine10 · 12-15-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Not this month. Usually only on the weekends of the big 4; Rumble, Mania, SummerSlam and Survivor Series. I think there have been talks of more being added eventually.

Ok thanks. I saw something but it turned out to be a house show.

I don't know if Vince will make things better, or make things like he thinks they should be. Is there a Roma. Doppelganger waiting in the wings?

CharlieHustle · 12-16-2018, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Sounds like Vince McMahon is coming to Raw Monday to "Shake things up." I can only imagine what that might be. I think after last weeks Seth Rollins promo, and now him going on Raw this coming week to make changes, maybe Vince has finally woken up and sees things have to change. Guess we will see what happens.

Blame Corbin for everything.
"Fire" Him.
Bring back Angle.
Business as usual.

Is how I think Monday will go.

What I'd LIKE to see, is Vince shoot on himself and admit that possibly, just maybe, somehow, some way, it's plausible that he's out of touch with what the fans want. I don't even care if he retires or steps down. Just admit that he doesn't have the answers anymore.
No possible way he leans an inch in that direction, though.

natbornkiller · 12-16-2018, 02:23 PM

https://twitter.com/AwardsDarwin/sta...53270464897024

fazzle · 12-16-2018, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Sounds like Vince McMahon is coming to Raw Monday to "Shake things up." I can only imagine what that might be. I think after last weeks Seth Rollins promo, and now him going on Raw this coming week to make changes, maybe Vince has finally woken up and sees things have to change. Guess we will see what happens.

90% odds that Vince's "fix" is just MORE MCMAHONS! PUT EM EVERYWHERE!

Kingofkings1281 · 12-16-2018, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieHustle

Blame Corbin for everything.
"Fire" Him.
Bring back Angle.
Business as usual.

Is how I think Monday will go.

What I'd LIKE to see, is Vince shoot on himself and admit that possibly, just maybe, somehow, some way, it's plausible that he's out of touch with what the fans want. I don't even care if he retires or steps down. Just admit that he doesn't have the answers anymore.
No possible way he leans an inch in that direction, though.

I’m not getting hyped, but the report is this is an angle (no pun intended) that they think will save them from the ratings free fall that they’re currently in. The only thing I can think of that could realistically pop ratings is a Rock return, although I’m not holding my breath.

nera20 · 12-16-2018, 06:39 PM

are there any pre show matches tonight

natbornkiller · 12-16-2018, 06:43 PM

yeap
right now

nera20 · 12-16-2018, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

yeap
right now

ok thanks is it the only one?

natbornkiller · 12-16-2018, 06:46 PM

205 or cruiser weight was before that
wasnt paying attention

spookytwinkie · 12-16-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Don't even bother responding to him. I stopped taking his bait a couple years ago and it's so much better. He's either completely insane or 100% troll.

i have him blocked. only prob is other ppl still respond and quote his stuff so i still see it sometimes lol. if only everyone else blocked him too, lol.

Wolves4Life · 12-16-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by spookytwinkie

i have him blocked. only prob is other ppl still respond and quote his stuff so i still see it sometimes lol. if only everyone else blocked him too, lol.

I know he can't see this but I can't help but laugh at people who don't let others have opinions. I guess this is the America we live in now.

natbornkiller · 12-16-2018, 09:03 PM

odds that the man interferes in this match ?

jataman2612 · 12-16-2018, 09:04 PM

I'm sorry I just can't get myself to liking Nia Jax. That isn't an athlete, just a very large woman. Lose some weight and get in shape. This goes for the guys too. You're supposed to be unbelievable athletes. Look like it. Don't just throw your weight around.

nera20 · 12-16-2018, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jataman2612

I'm sorry I just can't get myself to liking Nia Jax. That isn't an athlete, just a very large woman. Lose some weight and get in shape. This goes for the guys too. You're supposed to be unbelievable athletes. Look like it. Don't just throw your weight around.

100 percent agree with you cannot stand her

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DarthRogahn Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Minneapolis MN Posts: 2,460	The weird thing is both sides are right on this. The product (defines as main roster Raw/Smackdown) is pretty stale and ratings are horrible. On the flip side the company is doing really well in terms of profit, TV deals, revenue and on and on. A weird time for long time fans for sure.

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jataman2612 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,338 jata_sportscards_and_memorabilia jataman2612	I'm sorry I just can't get myself to liking Nia Jax. That isn't an athlete, just a very large woman. Lose some weight and get in shape. This goes for the guys too. You're supposed to be unbelievable athletes. Look like it. Don't just throw your weight around. __________________ Always looking for Cleveland sports memorabilia. Looking for rare late 90's Cleveland Indians cards- if price is right. Also possibly interested in current Indians (Not crazy about current card designs though)