First Buzz: 2023 Topps Series 2 baseball cards

[DarcyWinston]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Hobby will always be better because of CLEAR

Does this include clear versions of scrubs? Cause there are a lot of ‘em.

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by DarcyWinston

Does this include clear versions of scrubs? Cause there are a lot of ‘em.

Since they only make clears for 100 cards out of the 330 on the checklist, they usually do a pretty decent job of "scrubbing" the list...

[DarcyWinston]

Originally Posted by zworykin

Since they only make clears for 100 cards out of the 330 on the checklist, they usually do a pretty decent job of "scrubbing" the list...

Well Simeon Woods Richardson pitched in exactly one game for the Twins last year and has a clear. I wouldn’t want to pull that but that’s just me. Or a Tommy Henry or a Ken Waldichuk and on and on, did you see the clear checklist?

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by DarcyWinston

Well Simeon Woods Richardson pitched in exactly one game for the Twins last year and has a clear. I wouldn’t want to pull that but that’s just me. Or a Tommy Henry or a Ken Waldichuk and on and on, did you see the clear checklist?

(A) I said "a pretty decent job," not perfect; (B) it's Series 2, not Series 1 or Update, so there's only going to be so much they can do. Would you rather they had included Hunter Strickland (currently a free agent) and Chad Kuhl (so far this year, 0-3 with a 7.67 ERA)?

[DarcyWinston]

Originally Posted by zworykin

(A) I said "a pretty decent job," not perfect; (B) it's Series 2, not Series 1 or Update, so there's only going to be so much they can do. Would you rather they had included Hunter Strickland (currently a free agent) and Chad Kuhl (so far this year, 0-3 with a 7.67 ERA)?

My point is they didn’t “scrub” the list. They loaded it with scrubs. Which makes hobby less appealing. Besides these are 1 out of what 20 cases? You’re not going to pull one most likely. I actually pulled a Lou bob clear out of my 2022 case so I’ve beaten the odds in the past. But I would never by a hobby case with the aim of pulling a clear. Fools errand.

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by DarcyWinston

My point is they didn’t “scrub” the list. They loaded it with scrubs. Which makes hobby less appealing. Besides these are 1 out of what 20 cases? You’re not going to pull one most likely. I actually pulled a Lou bob clear out of my 2022 case so I’ve beaten the odds in the past. But I would never by a hobby case with the aim of pulling a clear. Fools errand.

Again, you're missing the point - it's Series 2. There aren't 100 stars on the checklist to begin with. They do the best they can.

[DarcyWinston]

Originally Posted by zworykin

Again, you're missing the point - it's Series 2. There aren't 100 stars on the checklist to begin with. They do the best they can.

Well you defended backpages’ point that clears are why one buys hobby. I disagree based on the amount of players with no hobby love at all. I’ll just leave it at that, I don’t want to hijack the thread. Go buy hobby if you insist.

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by DarcyWinston

Well you defended backpages’ point that clears are why one buys hobby. I disagree based on the amount of players with no hobby love at all. I’ll just leave it at that, I don’t want to hijack the thread. Go buy hobby if you insist.

I mean, I literally said that I was doing no such thing, but whatever you say. I certainly endorse your decision to move on, though.

Originally Posted by zworykin

To be clear, I only meant "Hobby isn't better this Series than it was last Series." I express no opinion as to the relative merits of Jumbo vs. Hobby, that's for each of us to decide (except in 2023 S1, obviously).

[RainCityShecks]

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[mkejacques]

2 boxes into my jumbo case

[Badgers0821]

Pretty cool pull from Jumbo

[IMG]Untitled by Patrick Bennett, on Flickr[/IMG]

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by Badgers0821

Pretty cool pull from Jumbo

[IMG]Untitled by Patrick Bennett, on Flickr[/IMG]

Love it!

[1800gambler]

What set are those rookie debut patches going in? The one put on their first games jersey. I thought someone said they’d be the 1/1 in flagship but that could just be a lie. I haven’t seen anything about them since their debut

[Jolten Joe]

I thought it started in 2024 but I could be wrong


I did find this though it's not very specific

When a rookie makes his debut or is called up to the big leagues for the first time, the Debut Patch will be placed on their jersey. Following the game in which he sees action for the first time, the patch will be removed, secured and authenticated for use in an upcoming Topps product.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by 1800gambler

What set are those rookie debut patches going in? The one put on their first games jersey. I thought someone said they’d be the 1/1 in flagship but that could just be a lie. I haven’t seen anything about them since their debut

unknown at this time

i would guess Dynasty

[StlBen]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

I thought it started in 2024 but I could be wrong


I did find this though it's not very specific

Guys have had it on their jersey this year starting with opening day, you can see the patch on the players Topps Now card back.
Would be a real bummer if they waited and put the patches on next years cards and not on actual rookie cards.

[cj828282]

Nice collation Topps:

https://twitter.com/PrizmHoops/statu...01743899066368

[Jolten Joe]

Originally Posted by StlBen

Guys have had it on their jersey this year starting with opening day, you can see the patch on the players Topps Now card back.
Would be a real bummer if they waited and put the patches on next years cards and not on actual rookie cards.

Yes but usually cards are from relics /photos from the previous year.

I guess maybe you could see some in update but like TBP said most likely it will be in high dollar set.

[Funkster]

Second of my hobby was as bleh as the first. Best pull was a Corbin Carroll rainbow. Both boxes no auto, both crappy relics...second a Darvish. Second best card was a blue silver pack Esteury Ruiz lol

[MotorboatJones]

Nothing I’ve seen makes me want to buy any Series 2 whatsoever. I think sitting it out is the best way to go.

[Funkster]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Nothing I’ve seen makes me want to buy any Series 2 whatsoever. I think sitting it out is the best way to go.

Based on my two results I think im done.

[Jolten Joe]

I will say collation is jacked up.

I have watched a break of a 108 ct fat pack case where they pulled 5 or 6 Heavy Lumber cards that are supposed to fall 1 in every 800 or so packs and hardly hit any Blue Foil which are supposed to fall much much easier. Have also seen breaks where hobby was great and others where it was completely a waste land. But the Heavy Lumber thing blew my mind and the guy breaking the case was just as dumbfounded. lol

[speedyjg13]

What is the unofficial print run of the SSP cards that have the gold lettering/coloring on the back of the card?

[zworykin]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

What is the unofficial print run of the SSP cards that have the gold lettering/coloring on the back of the card?

In Series 2, odds suggest ~75.

Series 1 was ~150.

[Jolten Joe]

Sucks that for set collectors they screwed up and didn't put the Gold Topps logo on the front of the card in Series 2.