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[natbornkiller]

Jesus undertaker again
did they not see his last match

[LibSuperstar]

Originally Posted by fazzle

A good heel makes the crowd say "I can't wait to see this guy get his ass beat," not "I can't wait until this guy is off of my screen"

There's a lot of the latter nowadays.

[sthoemke]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

Jesus undertaker again
did they not see his last match

Not to mention that they brought him back to push Roman Reigns for the next PPV...

[Wolves4Life]

I'm calling a Taker heel turn. Reigns beat Taker at Mania. Don't think Taker forgot. Reigns vs Taker at Summerslam. Taker vs a younger wrestler who can help him through the match (and will be inside a building even if it's 100 outside).

[storm]

Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

I'm calling a Taker heel turn. Reigns beat Taker at Mania. Don't think Taker forgot. Reigns vs Taker at Summerslam. Taker vs a younger wrestler who can help him through the match (and will be inside a building even if it's 100 outside).

I’m thinking the opposite! Reigns turning on the undertaker , and joining Shane’s group would be epic!

[mnvikingstwins]

Lowest PPV and Raw crowds in quite a long time

[fazzle]

Originally Posted by storm

I’m thinking the opposite! Reigns turning on the undertaker , and joining Shane’s group would be epic!

I'm hoping for neither. Let Taker make his one appearance, do a few moves, tag out to Roman, and go home. Undertaker involved in any kind of long term story in 2019 sounds like an absolute nightmare.

[no10pin]

I'm guessing Taker pushed for another 'last match', because he didn't want to go out with that Goldberg match being his swan song. He was doing his best to show off last night in his 30-40 second flurry.

The fact that they keep bringing him back speaks to how poorly they have developed stars over the past 10 years.

[ThaReal1]

The few comments about RAW on here are about Undertaker. Yeah that's a hard pass for me. That's depressing

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[storm]

Originally Posted by fazzle

I'm hoping for neither. Let Taker make his one appearance, do a few moves, tag out to Roman, and go home. Undertaker involved in any kind of long term story in 2019 sounds like an absolute nightmare.

Oh, I don’t mean any kind of extended program with the undertaker. His ship has sailed. I’m talking using a viscous attack on the undertaker to propel him to full on heel. Roman, Drew, Elias , and Shane together would be quite entertaining.

[BoxBreaker72]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Lowest PPV and Raw crowds in quite a long time

TNA (Not even at their peak) drew more fans than WWE.

Incredible. And can not be swept away as a non issue. They are in trouble.

The newly signed TV deals will save them.... for now.

[Mrhenrychan]

Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

TNA (Not even at their peak) drew more fans than WWE.

Incredible. And can not be swept away as a non issue. They are in trouble.

The newly signed TV deals will save them.... for now.

Don't forget about the Saudi's...

[packman80]

Miz must have told Vince his grapefruits are now raisins that he is getting buried on every show now.

[mikecamp99]

I’ve refrained from commenting for a while since I honestly haven’t watched any WWE in weeks, but I still follow along with what’s going on. A few things:

I haven’t watched so I can’t say over the last few weeks, but even when I was watching Baron Corbin is not a top heel. He’s not even mediocre, he’s killing the live crowd and television audience. I heard that the main event for stomping grounds the crowd was chanting for CM Punk, AEW, Lets go Cena, Cena sucks, pretty much ignoring the match because they don’t care about Corbin. So no, Corbin should not even be remotely close to the main event scene.

The attendance the last two nights (Raw and SG) were wretched. It was said WWE people were giving away FREE tickets at the local mall and had a bunch of 2fer 1s to get in. If it wasn’t for all the free and discounted tickets there wouldn’t even of been half the people there. Only 3500 people or so at a Monday Night Raw???? You can blame the city if you really want, but when Raw was hot it wouldn’t matter where they go, it would be sold out or near capacity. They are losing people, fast.

I won’t even get started on ratings. They are piss poor. Enough said.

Listened to the Rollins podcast today with Sports Illustrated. It was good, finally got some passion out of him and someone out of the WWE. He took the high road on Ambrose saying he loved him, but he subtly pointed out how pissed he was. He also said he hopes he speaks on behalf of everyone at WWE for going off on twitter and the fans complaining. I hope so too, I hope he helps light a fire under all their asses and the product gets better. Let’s start by getting Corbin out and getting a decent actual heel in.

Oh and finally, Lars Sullivan our 6-9 months. Too bad, but no one cares.

[mikecamp99]

One other thing I forgot as I was reading what happened on Smackdown. Vince and Kevin Dunn have just become straight up stupid with their newest “thing” they are doing. No more wrestling g during commercial breaks, which I suppose is fine so no one misses anything on TV, but how about the live audience that has to sit there while the show just stops for these breaks? Not only that but that’s why there is all these 2 out of 3 matches and matches starting over in the last segment. It just sounds overall horrible experience.

[mhuhn23]

Originally Posted by natbornkiller

Jesus undertaker again
did they not see his last match

I put that on Goldberg. Guy is a stiff. Taker is one of the greatest performers of all time. Goldberg is an awful worker, always dangerous with his moves. Sure, Undertaker May be past his prime. Ric Flair wrestled into his 60s. Taker is the greatest big man of all time.

[ThaReal1]

I just caught up with all the Twitter stuff from Seth. What the hell happenned there? I can understand him being frustrated from hearing from fans but Will Osprey didnt even come at him. It was a like a friendly challenge IMO and Seth just went off. I mean dude really brought up bank accounts? Ugh! Seth is that guy! Really disheartening to see a top guy come off as an arrogant prick

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[lilkeithw]

According to Sports Illustrated, Paul Heyman will be the new executive director of Raw and Eric Bischoff will be the new executive director of Smackdown.

[BoxBreaker72]

Biggest news since the purchase of WCW. No joke. Vince appears to be stepping back for the first time ever. Or at least admitting there is a problem.

[storm]

Originally Posted by lilkeithw

According to Sports Illustrated, Paul Heyman will be the new executive director of Raw and Eric Bischoff will be the new executive director of Smackdown.

Just reading that, smart move IF Vince is willing to step aside and let them work.

[fazzle]

If nothing else, hopefully this will make the shows feel different again.

[Kingofkings1281]

Originally Posted by storm

Just reading that, smart move IF Vince is willing to step aside and let them work.

Everything I’ve read about this so far is saying that everything still has to be run by Vince before it happens. Nothing will change if that’s the case.

[Gurds]

Originally Posted by Kingofkings1281

Everything I’ve read about this so far is saying that everything still has to be run by Vince before it happens. Nothing will change if that’s the case.

I think Heyman and Bischoff have the balls to say something and agrue with Vince if they don't agree. You know Vince respects them abd their history.

[mikecamp99]

Originally Posted by Gurds

I think Heyman and Bischoff have the balls to say something and agrue with Vince if they don't agree. You know Vince respects them abd their history.

Agreed. I’m thinking this could be a nice turn of events for both Raw and Smackdown. As much as Bischoff gets crap for WCW, he’s a smart man and could help with storylines and continuity. Heyman is a very smart man as well. I was shocked to see this.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Agreed. I’m thinking this could be a nice turn of events for both Raw and Smackdown. As much as Bischoff gets crap for WCW, he’s a smart man and could help with storylines and continuity. Heyman is a very smart man as well. I was shocked to see this.

I'm glad to see it too, and I hope it has an immediate impact.

I'm hoping they create two entirely unique shows, because right now it just seems like 5 hours of the same 15-20 wrestlers. They need to create actual stars on each show so they don't need 14 wild cards a week.