WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1453

mikecamp99 · 07-09-2019, 01:25 AM

No TV where I’m at, but read the recap of Raw and it sounded hideous. This 2/3 falls and other BS to avoid wrestling during commercials needs to stop. It makes the matches comical. And whatever they are doing with Mike and Maria needs to STOP. Is that Stephanie’s idea of Women’s Revolution? Make the men look absolutely pathetic and calling another guy the Man’s man? This is getting stupid.

Stanley2 · 07-09-2019, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

No TV where I’m at, but read the recap of Raw and it sounded hideous. This 2/3 falls and other BS to avoid wrestling during commercials needs to stop. It makes the matches comical. And whatever they are doing with Mike and Maria needs to STOP. Is that Stephanie’s idea of Women’s Revolution? Make the men look absolutely pathetic and calling another guy the Man’s man? This is getting stupid.

I agree. How in the world do you have a mixed tag elimination match where the men and women can't wrestle each other?

mnvikingstwins · 07-09-2019, 03:38 AM

Nice to see Bray Wyatt storyline going nowhere. Even if they debut him at Extreme Rules they've had two weeks too long after vignettes ended

jmarascojr · 07-09-2019, 10:07 AM

^^^ You're 100% spot on....

I thought they were trending in the right direction with the puppets popping up at the arena that 1-2 weeks, but then that even stopped.

It's just disappointing how they use the talent they have.

Not sure why Gallows/Anderson signed for 5 years... I know money is money and they prolly got a great chunk, but you know WWE is gonna use them in this CLUB angle and then they'll go back to doing nothing...

And then they are stuck for 4+ years....

duwal · 07-09-2019, 12:02 PM

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I agree. How in the world do you have a mixed tag elimination match where the men and women can't wrestle each other?

Yeah they were talking about how it made no sense at all in the Wrestling Observer. Becky submits Zelina to eliminate her but now Becky just is forced to stand in her corner for the rest of the match because she's not allowed to enter the ring and face Andrade. So if Andrade then pins Seth the match would essentially be a draw since the two remaining wrestlers weren't allowed to wrestle one another

Jericho · 07-09-2019, 12:09 PM

The AJ/Ricochet stuff is going great and looking forward to that match at Extreme Rules. Always nice to see Lashley destroy someone. They should think about having him go over Braun at ER and building him up for a feud with the Universal or WWE champion.

duwal · 07-09-2019, 02:28 PM

It was just all so confusing.

Like why did they think it was necessary to have Corey Graves go backstage and play random interviewer. Where was Charly Caruso?

What on earth is the point of the Mike/Maria segments? Are we playing a 'the child is not yours' storyline? Because in the same segment she questions if the child is really his and at a short time later on yells at him saying 'Look what you did to me!!'

Why are Roman Reigns and Cedric Alexander all in good spirits and smiling at the end of RAW? Roman was double teamed and thrown into the corner and was out of the ring for the remainder of the match. Cedric did his moves but then was hit with a claymore and was pinned yet has a look on the end like 'we pulled one over on you'....but you got bloodied up by the kick and lost the match for yourself and Reigns

The six man tag match. The Miz comes out first, then the heels come out, then Miz's partners the Uso's make their way to the ring. This is a nitpicking one but just makes no sense.

Where is Bray? His momentum seems to already start to decline

There's probably more but anything not listed above, aside from the Ricochet/Styles segments, was pretty forgettable

mhuhn23 · 07-10-2019, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

The AJ/Ricochet stuff is going great and looking forward to that match at Extreme Rules. Always nice to see Lashley destroy someone. They should think about having him go over Braun at ER and building him up for a feud with the Universal or WWE champion.

Loving that feud so far. I’ve loved AJs work. Dude can carry a match like HBK.

Hoping they keep the 3 together as the Bullet Club. Will sell bunch a merch all around. They didn’t sign Gallows and Anderson to those deals to sit around.

My perfect scenario would be AJ winning the belt with Gallows/Anderson winning the tag belts and creating a powerhouse of a stable like they did in Japan

duwal · 07-13-2019, 08:28 PM

Jeff Hardy arrested for public intoxication

Stanley2 · 07-13-2019, 09:37 PM

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Jeff Hardy arrested for public intoxication

Damn it.

BoxBreaker72 · 07-13-2019, 11:51 PM

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Jeff Hardy arrested for public intoxication

He will never learn. He's basically Artie Lange without the heroine.

Newbs · 07-14-2019, 05:32 PM

Nakamura won the IC title on the pre-show. Maybe opens a door for Balor to join up with his old Japan running mates?

no10pin · 07-14-2019, 06:24 PM

Taker looking pretty good tonight, he definitely came out with something to prove. A tag match will help, he doesn't have to go 15-20 minutes on his own.

BoxBreaker72 · 07-14-2019, 06:24 PM

Best taker has looked since the HHH matches at WM

fazzle · 07-14-2019, 06:29 PM

Taker definitely doing more than I was expecting tonight, but that's not exactly a high bar to pass.

BoxBreaker72 · 07-14-2019, 06:35 PM

Fun match. Wasn’t bored at any point.

fazzle · 07-14-2019, 06:37 PM

The whole "faces have no friends who are willing to help them out when they're outnumbered" trope is one thing from the Attitude Era I wish had died a long time ago. I get that WWE thinks it makes the faces look like bigger badasses when they fight them off themselves, but it also makes them look like idiots who don't have a backup plan ready when their opponents have someone interfere to help them out OVER and OVER again.

Newbs · 07-14-2019, 06:42 PM

I was expecting much worse from that opener. The past Taker matches led me to believe that, thankfully, I was surprised to see otherwise.

no10pin · 07-14-2019, 07:18 PM

Cesaro took some crazy shots to the jaw in that match.

BoxBreaker72 · 07-14-2019, 07:43 PM

Not a bad show thus far...

AJ match could be a MOTY contender as well

fazzle · 07-14-2019, 08:32 PM

Braun vs Lashley was a fantastic big man match, and the ending was a great Monster moment for Braun, something that's been really lacking lately.

Newbs · 07-14-2019, 08:53 PM

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The whole "faces have no friends who are willing to help them out when they're outnumbered" trope is one thing from the Attitude Era I wish had died a long time ago. I get that WWE thinks it makes the faces look like bigger badasses when they fight them off themselves, but it also makes them look like idiots who don't have a backup plan ready when their opponents have someone interfere to help them out OVER and OVER again.

Exactly, like Ricochet has nobody in the back that can back him up a little against Anderson and Gallows, come on now!

BoxBreaker72 · 07-14-2019, 08:53 PM

AJ is above the US title.. was hoping to see him back in the universal title picture asap

BoxBreaker72 · 07-14-2019, 09:15 PM

Time for Joe to get a title run. Overdue.

packman80 · 07-14-2019, 09:23 PM

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AJ is above the US title.. was hoping to see him back in the universal title picture asap

You can't keep putting him in the top title all the time. He's been up there enough that I am sick of seeing him for a while other people can have a turn.

07-09-2019, 01:25 AM	#36301
mikecamp99 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 7,160 mdcamp1120	No TV where I’m at, but read the recap of Raw and it sounded hideous. This 2/3 falls and other BS to avoid wrestling during commercials needs to stop. It makes the matches comical. And whatever they are doing with Mike and Maria needs to STOP. Is that Stephanie’s idea of Women’s Revolution? Make the men look absolutely pathetic and calling another guy the Man’s man? This is getting stupid. __________________ INCOMING:

07-14-2019, 05:32 PM	#36312
Newbs Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,884	Nakamura won the IC title on the pre-show. Maybe opens a door for Balor to join up with his old Japan running mates? __________________ GPGMJT I collect 49ers, SF Giants, Nevada Alumni and Orlando Magic

07-14-2019, 06:24 PM	#36313
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,857 no10pin no10pin	Taker looking pretty good tonight, he definitely came out with something to prove. A tag match will help, he doesn't have to go 15-20 minutes on his own. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

07-14-2019, 06:42 PM	#36318
Newbs Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,884	I was expecting much worse from that opener. The past Taker matches led me to believe that, thankfully, I was surprised to see otherwise. __________________ GPGMJT I collect 49ers, SF Giants, Nevada Alumni and Orlando Magic

07-14-2019, 07:18 PM	#36319
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,857 no10pin no10pin	Cesaro took some crazy shots to the jaw in that match. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

07-09-2019, 03:38 AM	#36303
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,193 ski_4 ski_4	Nice to see Bray Wyatt storyline going nowhere. Even if they debut him at Extreme Rules they've had two weeks too long after vignettes ended

07-09-2019, 10:07 AM	#36304
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,406 shooterjoe13	^^^ You're 100% spot on.... I thought they were trending in the right direction with the puppets popping up at the arena that 1-2 weeks, but then that even stopped. It's just disappointing how they use the talent they have. Not sure why Gallows/Anderson signed for 5 years... I know money is money and they prolly got a great chunk, but you know WWE is gonna use them in this CLUB angle and then they'll go back to doing nothing... And then they are stuck for 4+ years....

07-09-2019, 12:09 PM	#36306
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,984	The AJ/Ricochet stuff is going great and looking forward to that match at Extreme Rules. Always nice to see Lashley destroy someone. They should think about having him go over Braun at ER and building him up for a feud with the Universal or WWE champion.

07-09-2019, 02:28 PM	#36307
duwal Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,187 duwal duwal	It was just all so confusing. Like why did they think it was necessary to have Corey Graves go backstage and play random interviewer. Where was Charly Caruso? What on earth is the point of the Mike/Maria segments? Are we playing a 'the child is not yours' storyline? Because in the same segment she questions if the child is really his and at a short time later on yells at him saying 'Look what you did to me!!' Why are Roman Reigns and Cedric Alexander all in good spirits and smiling at the end of RAW? Roman was double teamed and thrown into the corner and was out of the ring for the remainder of the match. Cedric did his moves but then was hit with a claymore and was pinned yet has a look on the end like 'we pulled one over on you'....but you got bloodied up by the kick and lost the match for yourself and Reigns The six man tag match. The Miz comes out first, then the heels come out, then Miz's partners the Uso's make their way to the ring. This is a nitpicking one but just makes no sense. Where is Bray? His momentum seems to already start to decline There's probably more but anything not listed above, aside from the Ricochet/Styles segments, was pretty forgettable

07-13-2019, 08:28 PM	#36309
duwal Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,187 duwal duwal	Jeff Hardy arrested for public intoxication

07-14-2019, 06:24 PM	#36314
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	Best taker has looked since the HHH matches at WM

07-14-2019, 06:29 PM	#36315
fazzle Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,667 mjprz	Taker definitely doing more than I was expecting tonight, but that's not exactly a high bar to pass.

07-14-2019, 06:35 PM	#36316
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	Fun match. Wasn’t bored at any point.

07-14-2019, 06:37 PM	#36317
fazzle Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,667 mjprz	The whole "faces have no friends who are willing to help them out when they're outnumbered" trope is one thing from the Attitude Era I wish had died a long time ago. I get that WWE thinks it makes the faces look like bigger badasses when they fight them off themselves, but it also makes them look like idiots who don't have a backup plan ready when their opponents have someone interfere to help them out OVER and OVER again.

07-14-2019, 07:43 PM	#36320
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	Not a bad show thus far... AJ match could be a MOTY contender as well

07-14-2019, 08:32 PM	#36321
fazzle Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,667 mjprz	Braun vs Lashley was a fantastic big man match, and the ending was a great Monster moment for Braun, something that's been really lacking lately.

07-14-2019, 08:53 PM	#36323
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	AJ is above the US title.. was hoping to see him back in the universal title picture asap

07-14-2019, 09:15 PM	#36324
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	Time for Joe to get a title run. Overdue.