Observations on the current state of the hobby from a show this weekend - Page 146

theshowandme · 12-02-2023, 11:09 AM

Geoff Wilson and the Sports Card Investor crew are visiting ddearing this morning

He just looked at me and said, “the hobby is dead, tell your friends”

I am praying that gets used in a video

I’m dying laughing

blackbears86 · 12-02-2023, 12:16 PM

Good times at the Bangor Maine elk's club show today. Attendance was brisk, but I didn't see any major transactions taking place. Nice mix of vintage at this show.

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blackbears86 · 12-02-2023, 12:17 PM

Modern was all around too. The Robinson looked pretty good compared to the grade.

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blackbears86 · 12-02-2023, 12:22 PM

Plenty of pelican holders in attendance as well as Pokemon. My one pick-up. CJ Stroud certified radical rookies case hit. Rumored to number 15. Only one has sold on eBay thus far for $436 in November. I was happy to grab it graded.

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KhalDrogo · 12-02-2023, 12:28 PM

God bless people selling retail Pokemon at shows.

Pacmeyer · 12-02-2023, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

Plenty of pelican holders in attendance as well as Pokemon. My one pick-up. CJ Stroud certified radical rookies case hit. Rumored to number 15. Only one has sold on eBay thus far for $436 in November. I was happy to grab it graded.

Not a pelican case. And is that guy behind the table wearing a fur hat?

blackbears86 · 12-02-2023, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

God bless people selling retail Pokemon at shows.

probably six or seven tables selling retail pokemon. Several tables selling blasters/megas of the major sports-----no one buying retail that I saw.

blackbears86 · 12-02-2023, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Not a pelican case. And is that guy behind the table wearing a fur hat?

that was his hairstyle

KhalDrogo · 12-02-2023, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbears86

probably six or seven tables selling retail pokemon. Several tables selling blasters/megas of the major sports-----no one buying retail that I saw.

With Fanatics and the big three hoarding all the hobby, this is what happens. These guys have a monopoly on the good stuff

anusinha · 12-02-2023, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

With Fanatics and the big three hoarding all the hobby, this is what happens. These guys have a monopoly on the good stuff

Modern retail is pretty available everywhere for more or less MSRP, no need to pay a premium for it.

KhalDrogo · 12-02-2023, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by anusinha

Modern retail is pretty available everywhere for more or less MSRP, no need to pay a premium for it.

I just can’t believe people actually still buy retail to flip.

anusinha · 12-02-2023, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I just can’t believe people actually still buy retail to flip.

Could be possible they have a distro account and are getting it wholesale.

Bosoxfan5990 · 12-02-2023, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by majestik101

The author of my auto signature!

I was trying to make a sale off eBay to a potential buyer earlier this week.

The buyer countered with a sale "comp" earlier this month.

I'm currently the cheapest listed on eBay by a significant margin, and the next cheapest after me doesn't have an OBO offer available.

I basically knocked 25+% off my eBay ask for the live transaction, which would put me between the most recent sale "comp" and my current listing and the buyer wasn't interested.

It's not like the card is one that sells daily either.

I really wanted to use this line on the buyer, but I've learned to bite my tongue and gotten better with Customer Service.

ThoseBackPages · 12-02-2023, 03:00 PM

you love to see it!

The_Reverend · 12-02-2023, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

I just can’t believe people actually still buy retail to flip.

In 2024 with the release of Upper Deck Series 2 that will change big time. Connor Bedard

ThoseBackPages · 12-02-2023, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

In 2024 with the release of Upper Deck Series 2 that will change big time. Connor Bedard

any 2023 NHL Retail that has him in it will do well, really

The_Reverend · 12-02-2023, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

any 2023 NHL Retail that has him in it will do well, really

Agree, but Upper Deck Series 2 has his most desirable RC, Young Guns and for hobby, there is already a 2 million bounty for the Gold Outburst You g Guns 1/1. His outburst silver will be in retail as the big chase card. His YG will likely be a $500 card out the gate.

ThoseBackPages · 12-02-2023, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Agree, but Upper Deck Series 2 has his most desirable RC, Young Guns and for hobby, there is already a 2 million bounty for the Gold Outburst You g Guns 1/1. His outburst silver will be in retail as the big chase card. His YG will likely be a $500 card out the gate.

agreed.

The_Reverend · 12-02-2023, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

agreed.

That will drive retail flipping. I will not be “flipping” but I will be looking to pick up megas in my rural area where hockey is not purchased.

theshowandme · 12-02-2023, 03:36 PM

Geoff Wilson was spending heavy in Philly

Probably more than the rest of the dealers combined

anusinha · 12-02-2023, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by theshowandme

Geoff Wilson was spending heavy in Philly

Probably more than the rest of the dealers combined

I think he is working on a repack project

ThoseBackPages · 12-02-2023, 03:54 PM

he has a store to fill as well

solt0131 · 12-02-2023, 04:12 PM

Much better day today. Very good attendance and people were spending money. Talked to several dealers and they said today blew Friday out of the water. Crowd still strong here at 4 o’clock. I’d say Dan had a good show.

Bob Ross · 12-02-2023, 04:17 PM

Geoff Wilson <

theshowandme · 12-02-2023, 05:30 PM

Finances of a collector who traveled from Virginia to Philadelphia for the show this weekend

All prices are rounded up to the nearest dollar

12/1/2023
Breakfast, coffee, granola bars: $15
Philadelphia Museum of Art admission: $26
Lunch: $21
Parking: $20
WaWa Coffee: $2
SGC shipping: $15, given a promo code for the submission itself for previous issues
Cards: $550
Tolls: $28
Dinner and beer: covered by dealer friend, a good egg

12/2/2023
Hotel: $140
Gas: $30
Breakfast, coffee, snacks: $17
Lunch, snacks, coffee: $18
Tolls: $4, Waze took me an interesting way back. There were two bad accidents and I got rerouted through some rural Pennsylvania and Maryland towns

Total Expenses: $885
Expected Profits: $0

In the hole $885 might be insane for a single 24 hour span, but it is worth it to me for the following reasons...

Dealer Friends Interacted With: 11

Twitter/Instagram/Blowout/YouTube Friends Interacted With: 8

Paintings Seen From the Masters: 50+

The Hobby is dying bro!

12-02-2023, 12:28 PM	#3630
KhalDrogo Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 41,316	God bless people selling retail Pokemon at shows. __________________ I love PSA!

12-02-2023, 03:00 PM	#3639
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12-02-2023, 03:36 PM	#3645
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,071 theshowandme nova_cards	Observations on the current state of the hobby from a show this weekend Geoff Wilson was spending heavy in Philly Probably more than the rest of the dealers combined

12-02-2023, 03:54 PM	#3647
ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,312 ThoseBackPages	he has a store to fill as well __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

12-02-2023, 11:09 AM	#3626
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,071 theshowandme nova_cards	Geoff Wilson and the Sports Card Investor crew are visiting ddearing this morning He just looked at me and said, “the hobby is dead, tell your friends” I am praying that gets used in a video I’m dying laughing

12-02-2023, 12:16 PM	#3627
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,188 blackbears86	Good times at the Bangor Maine elk's club show today. Attendance was brisk, but I didn't see any major transactions taking place. Nice mix of vintage at this show. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

12-02-2023, 12:17 PM	#3628
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,188 blackbears86	Modern was all around too. The Robinson looked pretty good compared to the grade. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

12-02-2023, 12:22 PM	#3629
blackbears86 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: maine Posts: 17,188 blackbears86	Plenty of pelican holders in attendance as well as Pokemon. My one pick-up. CJ Stroud certified radical rookies case hit. Rumored to number 15. Only one has sold on eBay thus far for $436 in November. I was happy to grab it graded. Sent from my motorola edge 5G UW (2021) using Tapatalk

12-02-2023, 04:12 PM	#3648
solt0131 Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 9,130 PghSportsCards	Much better day today. Very good attendance and people were spending money. Talked to several dealers and they said today blew Friday out of the water. Crowd still strong here at 4 o’clock. I’d say Dan had a good show.

12-02-2023, 04:17 PM	#3649
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,453	Geoff Wilson <

12-02-2023, 05:30 PM	#3650
theshowandme Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 5,071 theshowandme nova_cards	Finances of a collector who traveled from Virginia to Philadelphia for the show this weekend All prices are rounded up to the nearest dollar 12/1/2023 Breakfast, coffee, granola bars: $15 Philadelphia Museum of Art admission: $26 Lunch: $21 Parking: $20 WaWa Coffee: $2 SGC shipping: $15, given a promo code for the submission itself for previous issues Cards: $550 Tolls: $28 Dinner and beer: covered by dealer friend, a good egg 12/2/2023 Hotel: $140 Gas: $30 Breakfast, coffee, snacks: $17 Lunch, snacks, coffee: $18 Tolls: $4, Waze took me an interesting way back. There were two bad accidents and I got rerouted through some rural Pennsylvania and Maryland towns Total Expenses: $885 Expected Profits: $0 In the hole $885 might be insane for a single 24 hour span, but it is worth it to me for the following reasons... Dealer Friends Interacted With: 11 Twitter/Instagram/Blowout/YouTube Friends Interacted With: 8 Paintings Seen From the Masters: 50+ The Hobby is dying bro!