WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1461

mhuhn23 · 08-15-2019, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

So rumor Ziggler was to finish up with WWE on Monday. Was said to have a hand shake deal with Vince were he would finish on Monday and be let out of contract to purse other projects. Ziggler goes up on Monday to shake Vince's hand thank him for letting him out of contract to be told he is not being let out Vince changed his mind and rather pay him to sit at home for rest of his contract then let him out of it.

I’m done with WWE. That’s the most Vince thing ever. I won’t give that company any more views. Just to keep him away from AEW. That’s bs. Shows how much he’s power tripping.

jataman2612 · 08-15-2019, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

So rumor Ziggler was to finish up with WWE on Monday. Was said to have a hand shake deal with Vince were he would finish on Monday and be let out of contract to purse other projects. Ziggler goes up on Monday to shake Vince's hand thank him for letting him out of contract to be told he is not being let out Vince changed his mind and rather pay him to sit at home for rest of his contract then let him out of it.

Not surprised that happened. How much longer does he have on his contract?

mhuhn23 · 08-15-2019, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jataman2612

Not surprised that happened. How much longer does he have on his contract?

Likely not much but probably a 90 day no compete after it’s done which would keep him from AEW until after the TV premiere

jrg1128 · 08-15-2019, 11:29 AM

Ziggler in AEW would be awesome. I hope he goes. He seems to be more interested in his comedy and non-wrestling stuff tho.

fazzle · 08-15-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

So rumor Ziggler was to finish up with WWE on Monday. Was said to have a hand shake deal with Vince were he would finish on Monday and be let out of contract to purse other projects. Ziggler goes up on Monday to shake Vince's hand thank him for letting him out of contract to be told he is not being let out Vince changed his mind and rather pay him to sit at home for rest of his contract then let him out of it.

I haven't seen any reliable sources reporting this, so I'm just gonna assume it's some click baity garbage.

Also someone who has been in the business for as long as Dolph has wouldn't be stupid enough to rely on a handshake deal.

jrg1128 · 08-15-2019, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by fazzle

I haven't seen any reliable sources reporting this, so I'm just gonna assume it's some click baity garbage.

Also someone who has been in the business for as long as Dolph has wouldn't be stupid enough to rely on a handshake deal.

Agreed. He's much smarter than that.

mhuhn23 · 08-15-2019, 09:26 PM

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Agreed. He's much smarter than that.

He got screwed. No two ways around. He’s been doing stand up comedy and a Fox News. Dude clearly wants out. And had it until Vince pulled back. Let the guy go and pursue his dream.

Holding him hostage, as he shows up at Raw, shaking hands with Vince, being told he’s not being let go. BS

mikecamp99 · 08-18-2019, 06:09 PM

Sounds like NXT is moving to the USA Network and going up against AEW. I pray Vince stays away and lets HHH continue to run that ship.

jazz1232dc · 08-19-2019, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Sounds like NXT is moving to the USA Network and going up against AEW. I pray Vince stays away and lets HHH continue to run that ship.

I read that the new NXT will have main rosters stars on it so I guarantee you Vince will be more involved, which sucks big time.

mnvikingstwins · 08-19-2019, 07:02 PM

Wolves4Life · 08-20-2019, 04:55 AM

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Hope you had a good time.

celtics · 08-20-2019, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by mhuhn23

He got screwed. No two ways around. He’s been doing stand up comedy and a Fox News. Dude clearly wants out. And had it until Vince pulled back. Let the guy go and pursue his dream.

Holding him hostage, as he shows up at Raw, shaking hands with Vince, being told he’s not being let go. BS

He's getting paid, it's tough to feel bad for a guy getting paid to sit home because of a contract that HE signed

natbornkiller · 08-20-2019, 10:59 AM

just think how many more matches and story lines they could develop if they cut back on the promos and the bs interviews

fazzle · 08-20-2019, 11:49 AM

Well, considering Dolph was on Raw, I think that puts to bed the whole "getting paid to sit at home" thing that, again, nobody credible was reporting on.

NXT on USA seems like a REAL bad idea. It's only a matter of time before Vince gets his grubby paws on it and takes away everything that makes NXT unique and turns it into just another brand. Two hours is already a move in the wrong direction, as the brief one hour run time was one of the reasons why NXT doesn't feel like a chore to sit through.

Jericho · 08-20-2019, 12:18 PM

Seth/Braun winning tag titles wasnt needed really, but it keeps their storyline moving forward.

Sasha's promo was terrible. She sits at home for months at a time and then comes back and stinks it up with this promo. No surprise though, she's mediocre at best in ring and on mic. Hopefully she's back home and off my tv very soon.

jrg1128 · 08-20-2019, 12:42 PM

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Seth/Braun winning tag titles wasnt needed really, but it keeps their storyline moving forward.

Sasha's promo was terrible. She sits at home for months at a time and then comes back and stinks it up with this promo. No surprise though, she's mediocre at best in ring and on mic. Hopefully she's back home and off my tv very soon.

You obviously watched a different promo than everyone else.

Plus she's better in the ring and on the mic than Becky, and a MUCH better heel.

ThaReal1 · 08-20-2019, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jrg1128

You obviously watched a different promo than everyone else.

Plus she's better in the ring and on the mic than Becky, and a MUCH better heel.

Sasha is the only reason I watched last night

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mikecamp99 · 08-20-2019, 03:18 PM

Went to the show last night, the kids were really excited so I really wanted to take them. I haven't watched Raw in weeks, and I've heard the last show or two have been good but it was getting tough to watch week in and week out.

I had a lot of fun last night and the kids did too. I'll say, live is a lot better experience than watching on TV (what do ya know) though there were still some spots that dragged sitting there like the Bliss/Cross vs Rose/Deville match and for me the Alexander/Zayn match I had trouble following along, though that was later in the show so I think I was getting tired because others have said they thought it was good. Missed the entire Ricochet/Miz vs McIntyre/Corbin match due to a terrible wait at concessions.

The rest of it was good; opening match was fun live, The Fiend was cool though I will say being there live takes away the mystique as you see him come in and leave through the curtain, Randy Orton hitting the RKO outta nowhere got a huge pop from me, the tag titles switching hands got a huge pop as well. I had fun, which is way more than I can say about my watching WWE lately. The dark match after the show was Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans, and we got outta there right after Lynch's entrance.

Mrhenrychan · 08-20-2019, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fazzle

NXT on USA seems like a REAL bad idea. It's only a matter of time before Vince gets his grubby paws on it and takes away everything that makes NXT unique and turns it into just another brand. Two hours is already a move in the wrong direction, as the brief one hour run time was one of the reasons why NXT doesn't feel like a chore to sit through.

What do you mean...Vince will go “what happened to the competitions, what happened to the pros? Adam Cole is champion...as of right now he’s Michael Cole’s son”

Jaypers · 08-20-2019, 06:14 PM

For those who think NXT on USA is a good idea, ask yourselves what happened to ECW when it moved to the Sci-Fi channel.

fazzle · 08-20-2019, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

For those who think NXT on USA is a good idea, ask yourselves what happened to ECW when it moved to the Sci-Fi channel.

That was a whole different story. ECW was already a dead company for 5 years by the time WWE revived it, plus by the end of it's run it was really a good precursor to NXT as a brand that was essentially developmental until WWE felt the guys were ready to go on to one of the two main shows. It actually got a lot better once it stopped trying to be a watered down version of ECW and became it's own thing. It just should have never used the ECW name.

That being said, it feels like it's only a matter of time until NXT loses everything about it that makes it unique and they succumb to WWE writing to make it feel just like Raw or Smackdown and wild card the hell of it so they can put "real stars" like Baron Corbin on there.

Stanley2 · 08-21-2019, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fazzle

That was a whole different story. ECW was already a dead company for 5 years by the time WWE revived it, plus by the end of it's run it was really a good precursor to NXT as a brand that was essentially developmental until WWE felt the guys were ready to go on to one of the two main shows. It actually got a lot better once it stopped trying to be a watered down version of ECW and became it's own thing. It just should have never used the ECW name.

That being said, it feels like it's only a matter of time until NXT loses everything about it that makes it unique and they succumb to WWE writing to make it feel just like Raw or Smackdown and wild card the hell of it so they can put "real stars" like Baron Corbin on there.

I don't think sending some main roster guys back to NXT for a fresh start would be a bad thing. If they extend this wild card thing to NXT and have random people showing up on NXT TV just for the hell of it then I agree with you. The wild card needs to end any way, but we will see if that happens.

hokie2279 · 08-21-2019, 10:50 AM

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You obviously watched a different promo than everyone else.

Plus she's better in the ring and on the mic than Becky, and a MUCH better heel.

My thoughts exactly. Sasha as a heel is one of the few good things going right now. I'm a fan. Charlotte, Sasha and Alexa are the top 3 for me in the women's division

Jericho · 08-21-2019, 11:58 AM

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You obviously watched a different promo than everyone else.

Actually looking around on other forums, I see most people didnt like it and thought it fell flat.

As for SD, I think Bryan made Murphy look like a star last night. I really wish KO would get away from the whole Shane McMahon thing, he was getting over bigger and bigger and now still being involved with Shane is dragging him down.

mikecamp99 · 08-21-2019, 05:16 PM

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I don't think sending some main roster guys back to NXT for a fresh start would be a bad thing. If they extend this wild card thing to NXT and have random people showing up on NXT TV just for the hell of it then I agree with you. The wild card needs to end any way, but we will see if that happens.

What Wildcard? Basically that doesn't exist anymore and people can go wherever they want now.

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mikecamp99 Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 7,160 mdcamp1120	Went to the show last night, the kids were really excited so I really wanted to take them. I haven't watched Raw in weeks, and I've heard the last show or two have been good but it was getting tough to watch week in and week out. I had a lot of fun last night and the kids did too. I'll say, live is a lot better experience than watching on TV (what do ya know) though there were still some spots that dragged sitting there like the Bliss/Cross vs Rose/Deville match and for me the Alexander/Zayn match I had trouble following along, though that was later in the show so I think I was getting tired because others have said they thought it was good. Missed the entire Ricochet/Miz vs McIntyre/Corbin match due to a terrible wait at concessions. The rest of it was good; opening match was fun live, The Fiend was cool though I will say being there live takes away the mystique as you see him come in and leave through the curtain, Randy Orton hitting the RKO outta nowhere got a huge pop from me, the tag titles switching hands got a huge pop as well. I had fun, which is way more than I can say about my watching WWE lately. The dark match after the show was Becky Lynch vs. Lacey Evans, and we got outta there right after Lynch's entrance. __________________ INCOMING:

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Jaypers Bowman Scout Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 51,566 cardboardconglomerate	For those who think NXT on USA is a good idea, ask yourselves what happened to ECW when it moved to the Sci-Fi channel. __________________ Impervious to baiting.

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jrg1128 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,290 jrgbball	Ziggler in AEW would be awesome. I hope he goes. He seems to be more interested in his comedy and non-wrestling stuff tho.

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fazzle Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 3,667 mjprz	Well, considering Dolph was on Raw, I think that puts to bed the whole "getting paid to sit at home" thing that, again, nobody credible was reporting on. NXT on USA seems like a REAL bad idea. It's only a matter of time before Vince gets his grubby paws on it and takes away everything that makes NXT unique and turns it into just another brand. Two hours is already a move in the wrong direction, as the brief one hour run time was one of the reasons why NXT doesn't feel like a chore to sit through.

08-20-2019, 12:18 PM	#36515
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,983	Seth/Braun winning tag titles wasnt needed really, but it keeps their storyline moving forward. Sasha's promo was terrible. She sits at home for months at a time and then comes back and stinks it up with this promo. No surprise though, she's mediocre at best in ring and on mic. Hopefully she's back home and off my tv very soon.