✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[Frankish]

Originally Posted by hammertime

2018 Finest PSA 10 just ended at $491...I bought one on June 13 for $160.

That's pretty amazing.

I wonder how many copies of this card are backlogged at PSA and, after that, in the bulk grading queue at CSG? And how many are waiting to be sent it?

My son and I are huge Ohtani fans. We can see Angels' stadium in the distance from our bedroom window and watch/attend all the games we can. So I'm optimistic (even if biased) about the future of both Ohtani and his cards. Just wanted to get that out of the way.

One of the things we did early on was buy a large amount of the 2013 Japanese RCs. In retrospect, that was a mistake and we would have been much better off buying more 2018 US RCs. That said, at least the Japanese RCs (even the ones not serial numbered) have relatively low print runs.

I just have a hard time believing the 2018 base cards (even the PSA 10s) are a good buy at these prices. For the same $500, you can pick up a couple of raw, serial #'d RCs. Those seem much more likely to retain their value (in my un-expert) opinion. The fact that those Topps reprint cards (through the years, or something like that) are being bid into the hundreds of dollars is a sign of true mania. My son and I are still picking up cards here and there but, at this point, only serial numbered cards and autos when we can find them at a decent price (increasingly rare).

[okumeister]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I just bought the Ohtani/Ichiro US 153 Gold PSA 10 for $300.
I had the rest of the Golds and figured might as well complete the set.
Seems like a good price - only pop 46 and it looks like the last one sold three months ago for $208. His stuff has gone up quite a bit since then...

I was collecting the parallels of that Ohtani/Ichiro dual card quite aggressively at one time.
I have to dig up my storage box to see how many of which color parallel I have.

Can't go wrong with the NEW star of Japan and LEGEND of Japan both in one card.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

I just bought the Ohtani/Ichiro US 153 Gold PSA 10 for $300.
I had the rest of the Golds and figured might as well complete the set.
Seems like a good price - only pop 46 and it looks like the last one sold three months ago for $208. His stuff has gone up quite a bit since then...

I think that's a really strong buy. If the Asian market is interested in buying Ohtani, I could see that taking off.

[imbluestreak23]

Originally Posted by Frankish

That's pretty amazing.

I wonder how many copies of this card are backlogged at PSA and, after that, in the bulk grading queue at CSG? And how many are waiting to be sent it?

I have to think not that many honestly. We have to remember, before February 2021, Ohtani cards were very cheap. He came off a very subpar 2020 Covid year. Nobody was speculating Ohtani until he had ~4-5 HR in ST. Most of the backlog had already accumulated at PSA.

What that DOES mean is that collectors will have to pay a lot in order to get an Ohtani PSA slab today, or wait a while to get an Ohtani in a PSA slab at reasonable prices tomorrow (talking mainly bass)

[anusinha]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I have to think not that many honestly. We have to remember, before February 2021, Ohtani cards were very cheap. He came off a very subpar 2020 Covid year. Nobody was speculating Ohtani until he had ~4-5 HR in ST. Most of the backlog had already accumulated at PSA.

What that DOES mean is that collectors will have to pay a lot in order to get an Ohtani PSA slab today, or wait a while to get an Ohtani in a PSA slab at reasonable prices tomorrow (talking mainly bass)

PSA is going to get smacked with random Ohtanis when they open bulk back up

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by Frankish

I just have a hard time believing the 2018 base cards (even the PSA 10s) are a good buy at these prices. For the same $500, you can pick up a couple of raw, serial #'d RCs. Those seem much more likely to retain their value (in my un-expert) opinion. The fact that those Topps reprint cards (through the years, or something like that) are being bid into the hundreds of dollars is a sign of true mania. My son and I are still picking up cards here and there but, at this point, only serial numbered cards and autos when we can find them at a decent price (increasingly rare).

On point

The fact that those Topps reprint cards (through the years, or something like that) are being bid into the hundreds of dollars is a sign of true mania.

It's only because people think it's a real auto the way these listings are deceptively titled. I was honestly fooled the very first time I saw and put in a bid, luckily was able to retract an hour later. Any of those over $30 bucks is surely coming in a return.

[soicanbefree]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I have to think not that many honestly. We have to remember, before February 2021, Ohtani cards were very cheap. He came off a very subpar 2020 Covid year. Nobody was speculating Ohtani until he had ~4-5 HR in ST. Most of the backlog had already accumulated at PSA.

What that DOES mean is that collectors will have to pay a lot in order to get an Ohtani PSA slab today, or wait a while to get an Ohtani in a PSA slab at reasonable prices tomorrow (talking mainly bass)

Yeah. I have a lot of pack pulled Ohtanis. The math didn't make sense to grade in the spring.

Still doesn't make sense to sell or grade now. I won't sell it raw so nothing to be done with it but wait a few years.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by hammertime

2018 Finest PSA 10 just ended at $491...I bought one on June 13 for $160.

I was watching that one...blew my mind. I bought mine for $25 in December.


And, lower end Ohtani may never blow up. Thank you PSA for shutting it down. They've said it could be another year before the lower levels kick in. I think low-end supply could always be a lower pop because of this. I think bluestreak hit it right on the button with this:

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I have to think not that many honestly. We have to remember, before February 2021, Ohtani cards were very cheap. He came off a very subpar 2020 Covid year. Nobody was speculating Ohtani until he had ~4-5 HR in ST. Most of the backlog had already accumulated at PSA.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

I have to think not that many honestly. We have to remember, before February 2021, Ohtani cards were very cheap. He came off a very subpar 2020 Covid year. Nobody was speculating Ohtani until he had ~4-5 HR in ST. Most of the backlog had already accumulated at PSA.

What that DOES mean is that collectors will have to pay a lot in order to get an Ohtani PSA slab today, or wait a while to get an Ohtani in a PSA slab at reasonable prices tomorrow (talking mainly bass)

Originally Posted by soicanbefree

Yeah. I have a lot of pack pulled Ohtanis. The math didn't make sense to grade in the spring.

Still doesn't make sense to sell or grade now. I won't sell it raw so nothing to be done with it but wait a few years.

Totally agree about the low end wait for PSA. I do have about 5 at CSG and depending on the continued price rise for SGC, I might submit some of my batting stuff to them. I think I have about 10 RD versions and SGC has been around $225 in 10 slabs.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Just arrived today. I didn’t have a flagship RC of Ohtani’s, so I finally but the bullet I bought this guy for $114. I probably overpaid, but I’m having so much fun watching him on my fantasy team this year that I don’t care. Just happy to be in the club now

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Just arrived today. I didn’t have a flagship RC of Ohtani’s, so I finally but the bullet I bought this guy for $114. I probably overpaid, but I’m having so much fun watching him on my fantasy team this year that I don’t care. Just happy to be in the club now

[gabriel]

I'm a University student on a tight budget but was able to grab these last April for 74USD total. They're the only graded cards I own at this point, alongside a Guerrero Jr. 2019 Complete Set Batting PSA 10.

No plans on selling as Sho is my PC and favourite player, but man does it feel good to see where these prices are at now!

[Tim]

Just sold one of my BC base for $1550.00 BIN. It sold within an hour of my listing it. (Someone asked if i'd take $1400; I declined, then it sold to someone else.)

Hope I don't kick myself as I'm listening to the grading experts here about how many more will hit the market later.

[Trueblue]

Originally Posted by Tim

Just sold one of my BC base for $1550.00 BIN. It sold within an hour of my listing it. (Someone asked if i'd take $1400; I declined, then it sold to someone else.)



Hope I don't kick myself as I'm listening to the grading experts here about how many more will hit the market later.

You are a big winner - I doubt you regret it long run. Congrats.

Now it's about what you do with that money. Buy something serial #d/SSP or put it toward an auto!

[hammertime]

Yeah I mean I believe in the guy but I also don't think taking some profits at this point is a terrible idea.

[rms13]

I was listening to Bill Simmons pod yesterday and he was talking about how amazing it is that Ohtani is doing what he's doing and literately nobody cares. That is how far baseball has fallen in American culture.

[Philthy]

Originally Posted by rms13

I was listening to Bill Simmons pod yesterday and he was talking about how amazing it is that Ohtani is doing what he's doing and literately nobody cares. That is how far baseball has fallen in American culture.

Maybe I'm too connected to MLB, but I feel like I see Ohtani updates no twitter, news, instagram, forums, etc daily. I'm not complaining, I'm fascinated by what he's able to do.

[okumeister]

Originally Posted by Tim

Just sold one of my BC base for $1550.00 BIN. It sold within an hour of my listing it. (Someone asked if i'd take $1400; I declined, then it sold to someone else.)

Hope I don't kick myself as I'm listening to the grading experts here about how many more will hit the market later.

Pitching or the Batting auto?
Was it graded?

I wrote the above, was about to hit submit reply.
Then realized it was the Batting non-auto base in PSA 10 condition (am I right?)

That's an awesome sale if so.
I would have done the same if I were you.

[The_Reverend]

Never look back when a base rc PSA 10 sells for $1550. Likely over a $1,400 profit. You did very well. I found a copy I. A box that I sold raw for $217. Absolutely no regrets.

[beanman25]

Originally Posted by The_Reverend

Never look back when a base rc PSA 10 sells for $1550. Likely over a $1,400 profit. You did very well. I found a copy I. A box that I sold raw for $217. Absolutely no regrets.

and on the flip side i paid $220 raw for mine a few days ago. no regrets.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by rms13

I was listening to Bill Simmons pod yesterday and he was talking about how amazing it is that Ohtani is doing what he's doing and literately nobody cares. That is how far baseball has fallen in American culture.

Bill Simmons barely likes baseball, and admits to only following the Red Sox. His Twitter feed is filled with 90% Basketball people, so when Giannis farts, Simmons hears about it, but yet he thinks no one cares about Ohtani, but he doesn’t see it tweets about it. He just chooses to surround himself with basketball-centric people, and live in a basketball-centric bubble, which is fine, I just can’t stand hearing him talk about baseball like he knows what’s up.

That being said, baseball isn’t exactly where it was in the 80’s in terms of popularity. Ohtani’s season should be a bigger story on the news, but I feel like the networks only want to hype what will drive ratings for events they broadcast.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by Tim

Just sold one of my BC base for $1550.00 BIN. It sold within an hour of my listing it. (Someone asked if i'd take $1400; I declined, then it sold to someone else.)

Hope I don't kick myself as I'm listening to the grading experts here about how many more will hit the market later.

Dude. That's a great sale. Is there a chance this reaches $2000 or more? Sure, I guess so. There is also a chance that is a $50 slab in a couple years too.
Excellent decision in my conservative thinking.

[Tim]

Thx everyone for the support on the BC non-auto PSA 10 for $1550 sale!

[epatmythes]

Originally Posted by Tim

Thx everyone for the support on the BC non-auto PSA 10 for $1550 sale!

Nobody ever went broke taking a profit! Congrats on the sale!

I too am finding it hard to sell even when it seems obvious to do so...

I did part with my Five Star RC Auto the other day. That leaves me with 4 decent Ohtani's RCs in my collection. I "know" I should sell them all... but it's hard to even fathom right now!!

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by epatmythes

Nobody ever went broke taking a profit! Congrats on the sale!

I too am finding it hard to sell even when it seems obvious to do so...

I did part with my Five Star RC Auto the other day. That leaves me with 4 decent Ohtani's RCs in my collection. I "know" I should sell them all... but it's hard to even fathom right now!!

In the words of Kramer:
Pigs get slopped….Hogs get slaughtered….

See the Luka bubble market and we might see the same down the road with Ohtani. Both are very talented and possibly the future for both sports, but the correction could be big if he does not maintain his pace.