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Old 12-13-2019, 09:11 AM   #3651
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Totally agree with this and is exactly what I have done. Sold all 17 prizm base psa 10s, all 4 prizm silver psa 10s, optic base psa 10s and have been on the look out. Picked up 2 blue optic contenders as soon as they went live for a bargain price. Picked up a 3rd but seller hasn't shipped it yet and hasn't respond to my emails either. Bought it last Friday so still holding out hope but its not looking good. The seller has a 1700+ rating so hopefully he ships out. If not Ill use that money to pick up one of the variation blues as soon as they start hitting the street.
Totally agree, my only concern is, that in case of any financial issue the low end are easier to flip.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:12 AM   #3652
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Totally agree with this and is exactly what I have done. Sold all 17 prizm base psa 10s, all 4 prizm silver psa 10s, optic base psa 10s and have been on the look out. Picked up 2 blue optic contenders as soon as they went live for a bargain price. Picked up a 3rd but seller hasn't shipped it yet and hasn't respond to my emails either. Bought it last Friday so still holding out hope but its not looking good. The seller has a 1700+ rating so hopefully he ships out. If not Ill use that money to pick up one of the variation blues as soon as they start hitting the street.
Prizm silver psa10 is going to be one of his most iconic cards tho why not keep those?
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:15 AM   #3653
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Totally agree, my only concern is, that in case of any financial issue the low end are easier to flip.
Here's something that's probably controversial. If you're worried about potential financial issues maybe you shouldn't be buying cards but hey, what do I know?
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:17 AM   #3654
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Out of interest which Trae Immac Moments did you like and which did you dislike?
I liked the way the one with the blue jersey popped versus the white jersey.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:18 AM   #3655
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Prizm silver psa10 is going to be one of his most iconic cards tho why not keep those?
Just because they are not rare at all anymore. The silvers hold value because to they are prizm and they are still are perceived as being rare because of the silvers past history. I believe there were something like 5k silvers produced last year which is crazy and going to be an even higher # this year with Zion. To me the silvers are still nice cards but not what they used to be as far as rarity goes.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:25 AM   #3656
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I liked the way the one with the blue jersey popped versus the white jersey.
I'm the opposite haha.. I like the White jersey as it matches the other colours on the card, it blends nicely. I do understand why you like the Blue though.

(I have the White version) I'm looking to get a matching Luka once redemptions are filled and sold on ebay.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:28 AM   #3657
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Just because they are not rare at all anymore. The silvers hold value because to they are prizm and they are still are perceived as being rare because of the silvers past history. I believe there were something like 5k silvers produced last year which is crazy and going to be an even higher # this year with Zion. To me the silvers are still nice cards but not what they used to be as far as rarity goes.
Yea, that makes sense.
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:29 AM   #3658
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I seen him play live in New Orleans He was hitting 3’s five foot behind the line! His basketball IQ is off the charts rebounding assists etc. I hope the Dallas Brass see they have to make a move before the deadline Zinger will get better but they still need help to become a legitimate playoff team
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:31 AM   #3659
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Here's something that's probably controversial. If you're worried about potential financial issues maybe you shouldn't be buying cards but hey, what do I know?
I'm fine, thanks. But anything can happen anytime. My best friend lost his $5M USD worth company on a Tuesday, and on that day when he woke up he wasn't even expecting this to happen.

Plus I love this hobby but it would be a little bit boring to me if it wouldn't have the opportunity of investing, so when it comes to investing it's also means selling at one point, which is much easier for lower end stuff. My collection is about $15K worth right now, I have spent about $6K when I came back to the hobby. I think I'm happier with my 10-12 mid end Lukas than with 1 high end.

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Old 12-13-2019, 09:55 AM   #3660
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Just because they are not rare at all anymore. The silvers hold value because to they are prizm and they are still are perceived as being rare because of the silvers past history. I believe there were something like 5k silvers produced last year which is crazy and going to be an even higher # this year with Zion. To me the silvers are still nice cards but not what they used to be as far as rarity goes.
I completely agree with you, but rarity and scarcity are two different things, that's the reason why these silvers can sell for close $1.5K right now. If we only would check the print run, these cards shouldn't sell for more than $3-400.

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Old 12-13-2019, 09:56 AM   #3661
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I'm sure it's been asked/discussed, but ... I'm bored

What happens to the low-end Luka RC market from here? He continues to raise the bar professionally each week, and yet his low-end RCs are going down because the market is flooded with people trying to cash in.

I've got a handful of RCs from Chronicles, and 4 Optic Shock parallels. I think they'll just stay in the box for a few years.

Where does the market go from here? What do the next 1/3/5 years look like, say, if he wins an MVP and a ring?
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Old 12-13-2019, 09:59 AM   #3662
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Baseball has already proven that scarcity/rarity don't mean more valuable.

Prizm will be Doncic's iconic card if he keeps this up. The value of the base, silver and all the variations will out pace everything else.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:06 AM   #3663
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I'm sure it's been asked/discussed, but ... I'm bored

What happens to the low-end Luka RC market from here? He continues to raise the bar professionally each week, and yet his low-end RCs are going down because the market is flooded with people trying to cash in.

I've got a handful of RCs from Chronicles, and 4 Optic Shock parallels. I think they'll just stay in the box for a few years.

Where does the market go from here? What do the next 1/3/5 years look like, say, if he wins an MVP and a ring?
You might not retire on them, but a non-collecting fan who wants a rookie card should keep those values stable for now in my opinion
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:16 AM   #3664
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Baseball has already proven that scarcity/rarity don't mean more valuable.

Prizm will be Doncic's iconic card if he keeps this up. The value of the base, silver and all the variations will out pace everything else.
Scarcity and rarity may not mean much right now, but it will. With all due respect - you're delusional if you think it won't matter.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:17 AM   #3665
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Baseball has already proven that scarcity/rarity don't mean more valuable.

Prizm will be Doncic's iconic card if he keeps this up. The value of the base, silver and all the variations will out pace everything else.
Yeah this is definitely not true. His prizm is his single highest pop card available. I think his higher end stuff will continue to click upward at a pretty rapid pace. The lower end stuff will very slowly keep increasing over time if he continues to play like this. But due to the high print run on prizm last year, don’t expect his base price to ever match that of giannis.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:20 AM   #3666
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Yeah this is definitely not true. His prizm is his single highest pop card available. I think his higher end stuff will continue to click upward at a pretty rapid pace. The lower end stuff will very slowly keep increasing over time if he continues to play like this. But due to the high print run on prizm last year, don’t expect his base price to ever match that of giannis.
Jordan's Fleer rookie has TONS of copies graded and is still considered the most desirable.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:21 AM   #3667
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I'm sure it's been asked/discussed, but ... I'm bored

What happens to the low-end Luka RC market from here? He continues to raise the bar professionally each week, and yet his low-end RCs are going down because the market is flooded with people trying to cash in.

I've got a handful of RCs from Chronicles, and 4 Optic Shock parallels. I think they'll just stay in the box for a few years.

Where does the market go from here? What do the next 1/3/5 years look like, say, if he wins an MVP and a ring?
The low end RC market hasn't been consistently climbing because product is still findable in stores at MSRP and available in other ways at non insane prices yet. Plus tons of PSA orders will come back within the next few months keeping the prices lower.

Luka is gaining fans at a rapid base though so it will dry up and start climbing thats for sure. Hes past the conversation of a generational talent or not.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:23 AM   #3668
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I think for his base stuff Select Courtside is a much better buy right now now. You can get it about $130-$150 raw and compared to his $80-90 Prizmit's super short print, and a beautiful hard to find card. I truely believe that within a few years this will be his base card to own.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:23 AM   #3669
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Print run and pop report only matter so much.

If I wanted to make a ton of money, I would have bought every single Luka Optic base when PSA 10s were under $30 and raw was under $10. But I’m a collector. And hoarding hundreds of the same card is boring to me. I will trade easy profit to get some interesting rarities that are going dry.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:28 AM   #3670
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Print run and pop report only matter so much.

If I wanted to make a ton of money, I would have bought every single Luka Optic base when PSA 10s were under $30 and raw was under $10. But I’m a collector. And hoarding hundreds of the same card is boring to me. I will trade easy profit to get some interesting rarities that are going dry.
This. 100%.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:28 AM   #3671
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Jordan's Fleer rookie has TONS of copies graded and is still considered the most desirable.

There’s a pretty massive difference here. For the first couple years shops couldn’t give 86-87 Fleer away. The Jordan’s initially pulled barely had any perceived value at first which is why top grades still sell so well. That year was also an iconic draft class, 2018-19 not so much (still early though). Jordan has how many true rookies vs Luka?

Jordan is also the single greatest athlete ever. 6 championships. Not a good comparison here.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:33 AM   #3672
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Yeah this is definitely not true. His prizm is his single highest pop card available. I think his higher end stuff will continue to click upward at a pretty rapid pace. The lower end stuff will very slowly keep increasing over time if he continues to play like this. But due to the high print run on prizm last year, don’t expect his base price to ever match that of giannis.
Isnt Trout's update his highest pop card? Yet its worth significantly more than all of the others.

I prefer the "rarer" stuff myself... especially for my Acuna and Doncic collections.
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worry less about "pop reports", and more about what people want
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Yeah this is definitely not true. His prizm is his single highest pop card available. I think his higher end stuff will continue to click upward at a pretty rapid pace. The lower end stuff will very slowly keep increasing over time if he continues to play like this. But due to the high print run on prizm last year, don’t expect his base price to ever match that of giannis.
Give me an example.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:40 AM   #3675
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Give me an example.

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