WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1480

jataman2612 · 11-25-2019, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieHustle

The first match, the women's elimination match, was brutal to watch. The lack of chemistry between SD/Raw and the NXT women, was glaring. If WWE is going to push Rhea Ripley to the moon, then do it. Sasha Banks can absorb a clean loss, if it means planting the seed for feud down the road. Ripley doesn't need to resort to heel tactics to beat Banks. This booking was a complete 180 from how Ripley was booked the night before on Takeover.

That has Vince written all over it. It just continues the trend of NXT people being booked horribly once they are on the main roster or a big PPV.

I wish they would book them better. Walter was another one that was booked horrible. He's an NXT champ and he's the first one eliminated? Just doesn't make sense.

Jericho · 11-25-2019, 02:04 PM

Survivor Series was ok, but I don't think NXT needed to win that many matches. And Im a big NXT fan and I get they want to get those guys more recognized for the NXT show, but still.

As far as the Mauro thing goes, I think Graves needs to shut up with comments about his co-workers. If there is an issue someone in the office would say something. In the mean time maybe Corey could try to be half as good as Mauro on commentary, which won't happen. Or Corey can go back to crying on twitter about CM Punk not returning his calls.

storm · 11-25-2019, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Survivor Series was ok, but I don't think NXT needed to win that many matches. And Im a big NXT fan and I get they want to get those guys more recognized for the NXT show, but still.

As far as the Mauro thing goes, I think Graves needs to shut up with comments about his co-workers. If there is an issue someone in the office would say something. In the mean time maybe Corey could try to be half as good as Mauro on commentary, which won't happen. Or Corey can go back to crying on twitter about CM Punk not returning his calls.

Judging from his response this morning, Meltzer may have twisted things. Wouldn’t be the first time.

storm · 11-25-2019, 08:17 PM

I liked the old heel Rollins, this obnoxious heel Rollins not so much. As much as I can’t stand BROCK, was hoping for a quick appearance.

CharlieHustle · 11-26-2019, 02:28 AM

Finally finished Survivor Series.
The women's matches were absolutely brutal. No chemistry whatsoever.
When I watch NXT, I imagine what great matches there could be between Baszler and Flair, Baszler and Asuka, Ripley and Flair, Ripley and Lynch, etc. But after the Survivor Series, I couldn't possibly be less interested in any of those future matchups.

NXT matches are fluid, fast paced and tell a story.
WWE matches are choreographed (badly) and methodical and all of the big stars are booked even Steven. Even though Shayna Baszler won, she couldn't stand tall at the end of the PPV. Lynch had to steal her heat and the PPV had to fade to black with Lynch on the announce table, and her music playing. Sasha Banks couldn't eat a clean loss. Rhea Ripley (who was booked like a badass, 24 hours earlier) had to resort to heel tactics and a numbers advantage to pin a non-champion. Even Steven.

I think the best match of the whole night, was the one that I had the least interest in, during the buildup...Lesnar/Mysterio. It had a great pace, it told a story and there was a definitive winner. Though they can build on this story with the inclusion of Dominic, they can also end this story exactly where they're at. Perfect.

Hardcore · 11-26-2019, 02:32 PM

Sunday Dec 1
Starrcade 2019... from Georgia..

expect a match of the year candidate
AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens

and also
Braun Stroman vs The Fiend... in a Steel Cage
expect a mandible claw within 5 minutes... yawn

and Rusev vs Lashley in a Last Man standing...
should be good..

also
Intercontinental Championship: Shinsuke Nakmaura (c) & Sami Zayn vs. The Miz (handicap match)
Miz is just turrible... will definitely skip this one

Wolves4Life · 11-26-2019, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardcore

Sunday Dec 1
Starrcade 2019... from Georgia..

expect a match of the year candidate
AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens

and also
Braun Stroman vs The Fiend... in a Steel Cage
expect a mandible claw within 5 minutes... yawn

and Rusev vs Lashley in a Last Man standing...
should be good..

also
Intercontinental Championship: Shinsuke Nakmaura (c) & Sami Zayn vs. The Miz (handicap match)
Miz is just turrible... will definitely skip this one

WWE Network is only showing 1 hour of it, Women's Tag titles and LMS are only confirmed matches.

mnvikingstwins · 11-26-2019, 11:39 PM

TLC teasing Becky/Charlotte vs Kabuki Warriors championship match

MasterOfTheDark · 11-27-2019, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieHustle

I think the best match of the whole night, was the one that I had the least interest in, during the buildup...Lesnar/Mysterio. It had a great pace, it told a story and there was a definitive winner. Though they can build on this story with the inclusion of Dominic, they can also end this story exactly where they're at. Perfect.

I'll probably get torched for this, but the size differential between Lesnar and Mysterio is just too large for this match to have been interesting in the slightest. Now, that doesn't mean I think the bigger guy should always win or anything like that, but, it does need to be *somewhat* believable. Rey over Brock wouldn't scratch the surface of believable, so I am thankful WWE wasn't stupid enough to do that. Rey did get his payoff with winning the title over AJ, and that's fine by me, even though I prefer AJ and I don't care if Rey is ever on my television again.

Personally, I'm hoping the Drew Mcintyre/Orton thing from Raw leads to a match between those two. I think they match up well and it could go either way.

I'd like to see Brock/Lashley as well.

brothertona · 11-27-2019, 07:36 AM

The interesting rumor and idea that I've heard is they are grooming Kevin Owens to take on Brock at WM, if so the heel turn from Rollins makes so much more sense. It's been Rollins show, he's been the standard bearer, to make Owens believable he takes out Rollins. He wins RR, and goes in on a straight burner. He's also one of the few people in the company that can cut a believable promo. If he says I'm going to bury this guy you're like I could see that.

gmarutiak · 11-27-2019, 08:03 AM

Slightly off-topic, but last night I watched a wrestling documentary on Amazon Prime called 350 Days. I really enjoyed it. Lots of great, insightful interviews with dozens of wrestling legends.

CharlieHustle · 11-27-2019, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfTheDark

I'll probably get torched for this, but the size differential between Lesnar and Mysterio is just too large for this match to have been interesting in the slightest. Now, that doesn't mean I think the bigger guy should always win or anything like that, but, it does need to be *somewhat* believable. Rey over Brock wouldn't scratch the surface of believable, so I am thankful WWE wasn't stupid enough to do that. Rey did get his payoff with winning the title over AJ, and that's fine by me, even though I prefer AJ and I don't care if Rey is ever on my television again.

I'm completely with you.
I always say, "I've seen Rey Mysterio's match", because to me, he has one match that he's repeated over and over for 15 years regardless of the opponent. Same moves, same order, same promo, same build.

Not for one second, did I think Rey had a chance to win. But with all this being said, with the outcome still being predictable, I thoroughly enjoyed the match, because they covered all the pro wrestling bases. Great pace, great storytelling, some ooohs, some aaaaws. Match of the night, as far as I'm concerned.

cinnakaok · 11-29-2019, 12:20 PM

Dana Brooke and Batista on Twitter is a million times better then the Lana Rusev lashely triangle

Bob Loblaw · 11-29-2019, 12:25 PM

Batista is going to hit it and hit it hard.

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jmarascojr · 11-29-2019, 06:12 PM

^^^ Have to say I agree with cinnakaok, it's been an entertaining 3-4 days watching those two go back and forth...

He's already got her calling him daddy, ha ha ha...

mnvikingstwins · 11-29-2019, 06:29 PM

Dana better answer how big it is

mikecamp99 · 11-30-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by storm

Judging from his response this morning, Meltzer may have twisted things. Wouldn’t be the first time.

Eh, I don't think so. Why else would Graves then go on his podcast and apologize for what he did? Graves is just a dick who needs to get off twitter. Graves has plenty of skeletons in his closet, be better he just stay out of the limelight.

storm · 11-30-2019, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

Eh, I don't think so. Why else would Graves then go on his podcast and apologize for what he did? Graves is just a dick who needs to get off twitter. Graves has plenty of skeletons in his closet, be better he just stay out of the limelight.

I agree, that was my initial thought. Graves is kind of a slime ball.

LibSuperstar · 12-01-2019, 01:15 PM

Anybody planning on watching Starrcade tonight?

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Originally Posted by gmarutiak

Slightly off-topic, but last night I watched a wrestling documentary on Amazon Prime called 350 Days. I really enjoyed it. Lots of great, insightful interviews with dozens of wrestling legends.

Need to check it out myself.

natbornkiller · 12-01-2019, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by libsuperstar

anybody planning on watching starrcade tonight?

sounds like a house show

natbornkiller · 12-01-2019, 09:51 PM

whos buying at least one

https://shop.wwe.com/the-fiend-bray-...tom-title.html

Wolves4Life · 12-02-2019, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

whos buying at least one

https://shop.wwe.com/the-fiend-bray-...tom-title.html

Sadly some people have.

Seahawks fan · 12-02-2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by natbornkiller

whos buying at least one

https://shop.wwe.com/the-fiend-bray-...tom-title.html

I'm pretty sure the second you buy one of those it would depreciate in value by 2-3 grand. Just like driving a car off the lot.

Stanley2 · 12-02-2019, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks fan

I'm pretty sure the second you buy one of those it would depreciate in value by 2-3 grand. Just like driving a car off the lot.

At least, cool item for the right buyer, but not for someone looking for long term value or resale IMO.

natbornkiller · 12-02-2019, 09:00 PM

Feels like im watching jerry springer show

11-26-2019, 02:32 PM	#36981
Hardcore Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 626	Sunday Dec 1 Starrcade 2019... from Georgia.. expect a match of the year candidate AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens and also Braun Stroman vs The Fiend... in a Steel Cage expect a mandible claw within 5 minutes... yawn and Rusev vs Lashley in a Last Man standing... should be good.. also Intercontinental Championship: Shinsuke Nakmaura (c) & Sami Zayn vs. The Miz (handicap match) Miz is just turrible... will definitely skip this one Last edited by Hardcore; 11-26-2019 at 02:50 PM.

11-29-2019, 12:20 PM	#36988
cinnakaok Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 10,879	Dana Brooke and Batista on Twitter is a million times better then the Lana Rusev lashely triangle __________________ The Jeremy Kerley Collector 192 Different Kerley's with 16 1/1's

12-01-2019, 09:51 PM	#36996
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,803	whos buying at least one https://shop.wwe.com/the-fiend-bray-...tom-title.html __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

12-02-2019, 09:00 PM	#37000
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,803	Feels like im watching jerry springer show __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

11-25-2019, 02:04 PM	#36977
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,982	Survivor Series was ok, but I don't think NXT needed to win that many matches. And Im a big NXT fan and I get they want to get those guys more recognized for the NXT show, but still. As far as the Mauro thing goes, I think Graves needs to shut up with comments about his co-workers. If there is an issue someone in the office would say something. In the mean time maybe Corey could try to be half as good as Mauro on commentary, which won't happen. Or Corey can go back to crying on twitter about CM Punk not returning his calls.

11-25-2019, 08:17 PM	#36979
storm Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: vt Posts: 6,309	I liked the old heel Rollins, this obnoxious heel Rollins not so much. As much as I can’t stand BROCK, was hoping for a quick appearance.

11-26-2019, 02:28 AM	#36980
CharlieHustle Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,532 nvsportscards702	Finally finished Survivor Series. The women's matches were absolutely brutal. No chemistry whatsoever. When I watch NXT, I imagine what great matches there could be between Baszler and Flair, Baszler and Asuka, Ripley and Flair, Ripley and Lynch, etc. But after the Survivor Series, I couldn't possibly be less interested in any of those future matchups. NXT matches are fluid, fast paced and tell a story. WWE matches are choreographed (badly) and methodical and all of the big stars are booked even Steven. Even though Shayna Baszler won, she couldn't stand tall at the end of the PPV. Lynch had to steal her heat and the PPV had to fade to black with Lynch on the announce table, and her music playing. Sasha Banks couldn't eat a clean loss. Rhea Ripley (who was booked like a badass, 24 hours earlier) had to resort to heel tactics and a numbers advantage to pin a non-champion. Even Steven. I think the best match of the whole night, was the one that I had the least interest in, during the buildup...Lesnar/Mysterio. It had a great pace, it told a story and there was a definitive winner. Though they can build on this story with the inclusion of Dominic, they can also end this story exactly where they're at. Perfect.

11-26-2019, 11:39 PM	#36983
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	TLC teasing Becky/Charlotte vs Kabuki Warriors championship match

11-27-2019, 07:36 AM	#36985
brothertona Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 6,950 brothertona1	The interesting rumor and idea that I've heard is they are grooming Kevin Owens to take on Brock at WM, if so the heel turn from Rollins makes so much more sense. It's been Rollins show, he's been the standard bearer, to make Owens believable he takes out Rollins. He wins RR, and goes in on a straight burner. He's also one of the few people in the company that can cut a believable promo. If he says I'm going to bury this guy you're like I could see that.

11-27-2019, 08:03 AM	#36986
gmarutiak Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD (but Pittsburgh in my heart!) Posts: 3,136	Slightly off-topic, but last night I watched a wrestling documentary on Amazon Prime called 350 Days. I really enjoyed it. Lots of great, insightful interviews with dozens of wrestling legends.

11-29-2019, 12:25 PM	#36989
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	Batista is going to hit it and hit it hard. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

11-29-2019, 06:12 PM	#36990
jmarascojr Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 4,373 shooterjoe13	^^^ Have to say I agree with cinnakaok, it's been an entertaining 3-4 days watching those two go back and forth... He's already got her calling him daddy, ha ha ha...

11-29-2019, 06:29 PM	#36991
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	Dana better answer how big it is