2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I do think that's one unfortunate burden carried by black people. They are more likely to be subjected to racism, and as a result end up questioning whether or not racism is a factor when certain things don't go according to plan. This is more based on observation than actual data... I'm not sure there's a racism database to begin with.

I do a number of things to make money, but am a property adjuster for my 9-5. I work in Philadelphia, and mostly west and north where the population is heavy black. I'd wager I'm in more black homes than anyone else on BO. I've only had one lady hint at me being racist. Her Italian neighbor had an identical incident at his home, and he ended up with a larger initial settlement. There are many variables the customer doesn't understand and it's extremely rare that two situations are ever identical, so the possibilities for why this could have been were endless. Nevertheless, she had thought that maybe her race was a factor in this. I immediately called her out on it, she apologized, and then a couple weeks later she was thanking Jesus for blessing her (I did all of the work, not Jesus).

It honestly never occurred to me until now just reading your post that maybe she felt that way because it's been something she's been subjected to in the past, especially as a woman who had to be in her late 60s / early 70s. It's obviously much easier for me to shrug off a suggestion of racism than it is for her to shrug off however many years of overt racism she was subjected to.

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

It honestly does... you're not wrong. But I think we already all agree on that.

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

I'd say it comes with maturity, not age. I've met plenty of people who have aged but have very little self awareness. They don't think they have any work to do when they couldn't be more wrong. We all have work to do.

+1 on all of this. I really enjoy your posts, despite our seeming political differences.

[trixstar]

Sorry already posted.

[kyle121592]

Lebron's credibility was lost after the china debacle he inserted himself in to.

[packman80]

So if this was reversed a black criminal shot a white cop would we even see one comment from within anyone in the NBA?

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by packman80

So if this was reversed a black criminal shot a white cop would we even see one comment from within anyone in the NBA?

Ha that happens nearly every day. Not only no mention from NBA. No mention from anyone.

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[Packer4Rob]

the sports figures have every right to boycott to show support for the injustice. I cant wait to see their reaction after this weekend when theres 20+ shootings/murders on the south side of Chicago, or the weekly shootings on the north side of Milwaukee, or the shootings going on routinely in our major cities. I predict much of the same....crickets.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by kyle121592

Lebron's credibility was lost after the china debacle he inserted himself in to.

LeBron thinks he is the voice of sports and that what he says on politics is important. He has a right to his opinion and to give it but just like my opinion would mean jack squat to him his opinion means jack squat to me.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by packman80

So if this was reversed a black criminal shot a white cop would we even see one comment from within anyone in the NBA?

No. Within a week, a white player was called a "b**** a** white boy" that gardner no response, to the season potentially cancelling because of an altercation between a cop and a black person that may or may not be justified.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Packer4Rob

the sports figures have every right to boycott to show support for the injustice. I cant wait to see their reaction after this weekend when theres 20+ shootings/murders on the south side of Chicago, or the weekly shootings on the north side of Milwaukee, or the shootings going on routinely in our major cities. I predict much of the same....crickets.

I still have not been told what the NBA players hope to gain from this. I mean, reading this tweet is just stupid. People that strike have demands.

NBA players have no plan, no ideas and are just hoping the owners figure something out or they're quitting? Really?

[packman80]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

No. Within a week, a white player was called a "b**** a** white boy" that gardner no response, to the season potentially cancelling because of an altercation between a cop and a black person that may or may not be justified.

Yeah I saw other day NBC is saying they are thinking of rehiring Nick Cannon after he was fired for his anti-sementic comments saying he seems to be sorry and learned from his mistakes. Fox never fired him saying the same thing about him. But look at Ellen people are screaming for her head because they say she allowed people to bully and allow racism on the show. Heck a news caster was recentlly fired because he called Kamala Harris a colored women on TV and someone complained saying that was racist.

[rman112]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I still have not been told what the NBA players hope to gain from this. I mean, reading this tweet is just stupid. People that strike have demands.

NBA players have no plan, no ideas and are just hoping the owners figure something out or they're quitting? Really?

Emotion wins. We all lose.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I still have not been told what the NBA players hope to gain from this. I mean, reading this tweet is just stupid. People that strike have demands.

NBA players have no plan, no ideas and are just hoping the owners figure something out or they're quitting? Really?

Makes no sense. Typical, want change and have no plans to do it.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

I still have not been told what the NBA players hope to gain from this. I mean, reading this tweet is just stupid. People that strike have demands.

NBA players have no plan, no ideas and are just hoping the owners figure something out or they're quitting? Really?

Sounds like players are getting to the point maybe if they don't like how NBA is run they should take their own money and form their own league and run it how they want to.

[TheFrenzy]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

^^ Frenzy, I'll make the signs, if you'll help me.

Do you want to take "Whites Only" or "Blacks Only"? And what do we do about all the other races. Are they allowed on the white team or black team?

So many unanswered questions.

Native American activist Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz has a fantastically awful book, An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States.

It's awful from the perspective of how she uses her sources and her general lack of following the basics of how history is done. She quotes selectively when the full quote would contradict her. She relies almost entirely on one specific secondary source. There are a lot of problems...

...but her brutal honesty is fantastic. She begins the book by telling off whites on both the Right and the Left. Obviously she's no fan of neocons, but her lengthy rebuke of liberals is something no one else could get away with saying. She demands that Americans stop telling Native Americans that they are a "race"—these are political entities who don't want to be patronizingly grafted into the sentimental story of "multicultural US democracy." What they want are their treaties with the US government respected and their lands returned. That's it. They don't care about MLK or Susan B. Anthony or Caesar Chavez. They don't want to be Americans.

We've spent so many years telling white conservatives that we were building a multi-cultural and multi-racial society that we stopped listening to all the other cultures and races who never wanted to be a part of this nation in the first place.

I personally am onboard with people getting along and living together, but where that used to only throw me into conflict with my conservative family back home, now it's increasingly putting me at odds with the very people who we were trying to include.

[Dielon]

I wish I could just not work in the name of this anti racism religion. I'd just lay in my living room like a starfish with Hope's and prayers. I'd get more accomplished than this strike

[trixstar]

Maybe we should just be like Europe

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by marl1220

Oh. What's the point of playing if there aren't any fans. Oh....wait...

Yes, because no one could have watched the games on television or online.
They couldn't have gambled money on them or played fantasy sports using the stats from them either.

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

Pretty sure Biden and his 47 year political history is ripe for change. You can't teach an old ... YES WE CAN!

He's changed where he's needed to.
It's called evolving.

Originally Posted by marl1220

One baseball game, in the city where rioting is happening, is hardly a trend.

How 'bout now?

Originally Posted by boston12

Daniel Cameron in 2024.

Sure, if he hears the pleas of Breonna Taylor's mother and charges those who recklessly killed her daughter.

https://www.courier-journal.com/stor...ch/5635453002/

"LOUISVILLE, Ky. — Breonna Taylor's mother, Tamika Palmer, said it was nice to see Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron mention her daughter at the Republican National Convention Tuesday evening.

And she hopes "the next time we see him he’s telling the country he's charging all officers responsible for my daughter’s death ..."

[kerg]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

Makes no sense. Typical, want change and have no plans to do it.

Strike and have the owners do something is the plan. Not sure what NBA owners are going to do. Picking up and leaving is the only card they have if their 'demands' aren't met.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by kerg

Strike and have the owners do something is the plan. Not sure what NBA owners are going to do. Picking up and leaving is the only card they have if their 'demands' aren't met.

Players want owners to do something. AKA take out your checkbooks and give your money to charaties we like.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by packman80

Players want owners to do something. AKA take out your checkbooks and give your money to charaties we like.

Only power the NBA has.

Players either have to walk back w/ their tails between their legs, or the owners have to make a hollow gesture of goodwill toward social justice. "NBA announces a new voting SJW initiative w/ $100 million blah blah blah". To expect anything else to actually happen is crazy, the NBA holds no weight in anything.

It's just a basketball league! And it can't change the world / continent / country / state / city / town / MY HOUSE in 48 hours or less.

This was just a really terribly stupid impulse; that sounds orchestrated by George Hill.

[KhalDrogo]

Why is it on the owners to do something? Which owners are racist?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Why is it on the owners to do something? Which owners are racist?

Why you don't go on strike to protest something outside your lane. You have no ability to impact change.

This is all so crazy and so stupid, I don't get it.

[trixstar]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Why is it on the owners to do something? Which owners are racist?

Are they saying they're racist? Or are they just saying he you're billionaire white dudes with lots of connections, can we get some help?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Why is it on the owners to do something? Which owners are racist?

All the white ones, whether they know it or not.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by trixstar

Are they saying they're racist? Or are they just saying he you're billionaire white dudes with lots of connections, can we get some help?

Perhaps that can be done without an impulsive strike?

The NBA went to great lengths to create a bubble, only to wake up one morning, without any organization or forethought ... to just cancel themselves?