WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1501

sethdlh · 03-03-2020, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecamp99

You don't understand wrestling. The great thing about wrestling is you can book it however you want which means you can have it go the way it should, but WWE continues to drop the ball on these guys.

Ricochet just got a title match against Lesnar. Yes, he lost and got destroyed but Lesnar destroys most of his opponents. There is absolutely no reason, NO REASON, Ricochet should be losing to a guy like Moss. It makes the title match a fluke and has turned Ricochet into a nobody buried 6 feet under. Keep Ricochet strong and have him squash Moss instead, could lead to a match for a secondary title or something. What they did last night is once again why WWE is losing interest and is frustrating for wrestling fans that try to stick around. You build someone up, start to gain a little traction and POOF, Vince doesn't care anymore and let's bury the guy. Has been happening for 20 years now.

This. This is why WWE has to rely on star power of guys from the 90s or early 00s to return and boost numbers. If you don't build stars people aren't going to tune in to watch talent get wasted.

indyguy · 03-04-2020, 09:22 AM

Who are the top 5 guys that you all should be built up? Want to start looking at some people a little closer.

Jericho · 03-04-2020, 01:23 PM

JBL going to the HOF? One of the worst champions in WWE history. His reign was terrible and dragged on and on. Scum as a human being as well judging by numerous and numerous things said by others.

mnvikingstwins · 03-04-2020, 01:26 PM

They should bring Bianca up and pair her with Street Profits after WM, could have her and them vs Naomi and Usos for a few months

Jericho · 03-05-2020, 01:34 PM

Think I preferred the Nox/Kai cage match over the Strong/Dream one. I will say Im happy that the crowd didn't go too nuts when Dream picked up the NXT Title. He got some cheers but most made no noise, which just shows that he is not as over as some may think. If they do Cole/Dream they can't put the belt on Dream.....I hope not anyway.

Wolves4Life · 03-05-2020, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Think I preferred the Nox/Kai cage match over the Strong/Dream one. I will say Im happy that the crowd didn't go too nuts when Dream picked up the NXT Title. He got some cheers but most made no noise, which just shows that he is not as over as some may think. If they do Cole/Dream they can't put the belt on Dream.....I hope not anyway.

If they do Dream/Cole and they don't put it on Dream there is no point in doing the match.

Jericho · 03-05-2020, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolves4Life

If they do Dream/Cole and they don't put it on Dream there is no point in doing the match.

Then hopefully they don't do the match or they add a third person to it. Because Dream is still nowhere near ready to be champion.

Wolves4Life · 03-06-2020, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jericho

Then hopefully they don't do the match or they add a third person to it. Because Dream is still nowhere near ready to be champion.

I wouldn't mind a 3 or 4 way. I'm backed up on NXT so i'm not 100% sure if the Gargano/Ciampa match is official for TO but 4 way with all them and have 1 of the other 3 win the title protects Dream who can win it either at a solo TO or Summerslam weekend.

JustinVerlander07 · 03-08-2020, 09:02 PM

2 years ago at this PPV Strowman destroyed EVERYONE in a chamber match till super-Reigns BS at the end, tonight he loses and looks like a dork to Zayn (who is doing some great heel work).

How to just waste a potential star.

Bob Loblaw · 03-08-2020, 09:03 PM

You think Braun wont get it back at WM? Great match. The heels have to win sometimes.

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JustinVerlander07 · 03-08-2020, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Loblaw

You think Braun wont get it back at WM? Great match. The heels have to win sometimes.

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He'll probably squash Zayn, just pointing out how far he's fallen. 2 years ago he took finishers from Cena, Rollins, Balor, and Reigns and kicked out super quick on all of them. Now this.

Bob Loblaw · 03-08-2020, 09:31 PM

Holy #@#@#@#@. That shot by Shayna to Liv into the chamber.

JustinVerlander07 · 03-08-2020, 09:38 PM

How WWE thought THAT match should go on last.....wow

That was horrible.

Bob Loblaw · 03-08-2020, 09:40 PM

What an utterly predictable match...and card.

That was the main event?

Ugh.

That was worse than the Saudi PPV.

BoxBreaker72 · 03-08-2020, 09:40 PM

A disgrace of a main event. Shame on whoever made that decision.

The whole card was stupid. Despite some quality work from the guys.

JustinVerlander07 · 03-08-2020, 09:43 PM

The problem was NOBODY in that match besides Asuka kayfabe wise you could believe had a prayer and the dead time killed everything.

JustinVerlander07 · 03-08-2020, 09:44 PM

WWE should stop doing a PPV after the Rumble, nothing ever seems to happen because the card for Mania has already been shaped.

Wolves4Life · 03-08-2020, 09:49 PM

Main Event should have opened the PPV so people could forget it happened the next match. Outside of Shayna the rest of the show was good. Thank gawd Becky and Shayna are not the main event. If no one gets added to that match i'll be happy if they slap it on the pre-show where it belongs.

packman80 · 03-08-2020, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

A disgrace of a main event. Shame on whoever made that decision.

The whole card was stupid. Despite some quality work from the guys.

100% it was Steph and her women power movement saying they need to have equal time despite not having equal talent. should have put AJ and Black on to end the show with Taker coming out at the end.

no10pin · 03-08-2020, 09:57 PM

So Shayna gets the Brock treatment, but with more time in between each squash. I thought at the very least they were going to have her break into Asuka's pod early since she was taunting her like a lunatic.

cdub6238 · 03-08-2020, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by no10pin

So Shayna gets the Brock treatment, but with more time in between each squash. I thought at the very least they were going to have her break into Asuka's pod early since she was taunting her like a lunatic.

The only good thing about the ME was Asuka acting crazy; terribly booked match imo

They should of had Shayna come out next to last if they wanted to do that, all that tension between former Riott Squad just wasted with no payoff

And i agree that shot Liv took was brutal, hope it wasnt a botch or legit injury; I thought the same when it looked like Bryan damn near broke his neck taking that German suplex

Overall show was meh, but only since mostly predictable

Gulak is underrated to me after that performance; How many more variants of Andrade, Garza, Carillo are we going to see...Enough already; Black and Styles was good but predictable finish; odd they went with Zayn winning as they dont want him as a full time performer again just yet

The tag chamber was hit and miss; sooooo many botches, Otis looked completely lost but not sure if that was him or others missing cues; no payoff on Ziggler heat either as they just looked stupid being too distracted by taunting

jataman2612 · 03-09-2020, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

The tag chamber was hit and miss; sooooo many botches, Otis looked completely lost but not sure if that was him or others missing cues; no payoff on Ziggler heat either as they just looked stupid being too distracted by taunting

Yeah that was difficult to watch. It was like some people didn't get the memo on how the match worked. Otis standing on the apron waiting for a tag- I didn't know if he really thought that or if he was in character.

They had a lot of great opportunities to add to storylines and instead dropped the ball.

Jericho · 03-09-2020, 12:32 PM

Bryan/Gulak was best match for me. Bryan makes everyone look even better than they are. Although Gulak is a fine wrestler, Bryan brought him up even higher.

Waste of a chamber match with the women. You knew who was winning weeks ago. Why didn't they just have Becky demand a match against Shayna at Mania after she bit her? We would have been spared this match, and they could have given it to the SD women or something. And if some of you have not seen Shayna work before, you pretty much saw everything she does now. Boring as hell and has had some of the worst TakeOver matches of all time. Only there because of Ronda and HHH's MMA hard on.

natbornkiller · 03-09-2020, 04:46 PM

r truth needs his own sitcom

natbornkiller · 03-09-2020, 07:10 PM

imagine if the word wrestlemania was a drinking game for the next month

every time on raw or sd if someone says wrestlemania you do a shot

03-08-2020, 09:02 PM	#37509
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,258 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	2 years ago at this PPV Strowman destroyed EVERYONE in a chamber match till super-Reigns BS at the end, tonight he loses and looks like a dork to Zayn (who is doing some great heel work). How to just waste a potential star. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

03-08-2020, 09:38 PM	#37513
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,258 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	How WWE thought THAT match should go on last.....wow That was horrible. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

03-08-2020, 09:43 PM	#37516
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,258 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	The problem was NOBODY in that match besides Asuka kayfabe wise you could believe had a prayer and the dead time killed everything. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

03-08-2020, 09:44 PM	#37517
JustinVerlander07 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 17,258 gladdyontherise gladdyontherise	WWE should stop doing a PPV after the Rumble, nothing ever seems to happen because the card for Mania has already been shaped. __________________ Collecting Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers, Michigan State Spartans, Miz, Jey Uso, Kelani Jordan, Macho Man, WWE "Cavs in 7. Write it down"

03-08-2020, 09:57 PM	#37520
no10pin Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 16,882 no10pin no10pin	So Shayna gets the Brock treatment, but with more time in between each squash. I thought at the very least they were going to have her break into Asuka's pod early since she was taunting her like a lunatic. __________________ Always looking for more George Brett stuff. Need more rookies, low numbered inserts/parallels and on-card autos (no Panini).

03-04-2020, 09:22 AM	#37502
indyguy Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8,512 arndru indyguyat	Who are the top 5 guys that you all should be built up? Want to start looking at some people a little closer.

03-04-2020, 01:23 PM	#37503
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,984	JBL going to the HOF? One of the worst champions in WWE history. His reign was terrible and dragged on and on. Scum as a human being as well judging by numerous and numerous things said by others.

03-04-2020, 01:26 PM	#37504
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,193 ski_4 ski_4	They should bring Bianca up and pair her with Street Profits after WM, could have her and them vs Naomi and Usos for a few months

03-05-2020, 01:34 PM	#37505
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,984	Think I preferred the Nox/Kai cage match over the Strong/Dream one. I will say Im happy that the crowd didn't go too nuts when Dream picked up the NXT Title. He got some cheers but most made no noise, which just shows that he is not as over as some may think. If they do Cole/Dream they can't put the belt on Dream.....I hope not anyway.

03-08-2020, 09:03 PM	#37510
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	You think Braun wont get it back at WM? Great match. The heels have to win sometimes. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

03-08-2020, 09:31 PM	#37512
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	Holy #@#@#@#@. That shot by Shayna to Liv into the chamber.

03-08-2020, 09:40 PM	#37514
Bob Loblaw Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Spring Training Paradise, FL Posts: 13,050	What an utterly predictable match...and card. That was the main event? Ugh. That was worse than the Saudi PPV.

03-08-2020, 09:40 PM	#37515
BoxBreaker72 Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 10,353	A disgrace of a main event. Shame on whoever made that decision. The whole card was stupid. Despite some quality work from the guys.

03-08-2020, 09:49 PM	#37518
Wolves4Life Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 12,455	Main Event should have opened the PPV so people could forget it happened the next match. Outside of Shayna the rest of the show was good. Thank gawd Becky and Shayna are not the main event. If no one gets added to that match i'll be happy if they slap it on the pre-show where it belongs.

03-09-2020, 12:32 PM	#37523
Jericho Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,984	Bryan/Gulak was best match for me. Bryan makes everyone look even better than they are. Although Gulak is a fine wrestler, Bryan brought him up even higher. Waste of a chamber match with the women. You knew who was winning weeks ago. Why didn't they just have Becky demand a match against Shayna at Mania after she bit her? We would have been spared this match, and they could have given it to the SD women or something. And if some of you have not seen Shayna work before, you pretty much saw everything she does now. Boring as hell and has had some of the worst TakeOver matches of all time. Only there because of Ronda and HHH's MMA hard on.

03-09-2020, 04:46 PM	#37524
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,806	r truth needs his own sitcom __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit:

03-09-2020, 07:10 PM	#37525
natbornkiller Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: bkNY Posts: 22,806	imagine if the word wrestlemania was a drinking game for the next month every time on raw or sd if someone says wrestlemania you do a shot __________________ HAH HAH I STILL HAS THE RIGHT TO EDIT THIS !:eatit: