Show Off Your Rare 90's Inserts Thread

[gradedeflator]

Wow. I love crusades in all forms and am surprised to see where the Larkin and Bagwell ended, especially raw. Is this a rising tide or simply really passionate player collectors?

Sorry you guys missed out this time…

I’m so glad I found my rainbows years ago…

[vinson24]

Originally Posted by gradedeflator

Wow. I love crusades in all forms and am surprised to see where the Larkin and Bagwell ended, especially raw. Is this a rising tide or simply really passionate player collectors?

Sorry you guys missed out this time…

I’m so glad I found my rainbows years ago…

For Bagwell cards in general, they are down. With the ties he has to the Jose Abreu signing and some of the front office discord and also with Altuve Yordan and others actually winning. So I’m not sure it’s a passionate player collector. Plus the winner had over 6000 feedback which typically suggests maybe a store or flipper but not always.

Third highest bid was $1900, which I think is the realistic value. So I’m not even that upset I didn’t get it, especially with the price it went for. More upset with myself for losing track of time and not setting an alarm earlier in the week for a 30 dollar PSA 10 Heritage Altuve card that would have completed his Heritage run for me lol.

So I’ll keep the hunt going


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[peterose4hof]

I have a few Crusades cards in my Reds collection. Definitely a Larkin or two. Can't remember which ones.

I had no idea these had gotten this expensive.

I think it might be time to pull them out of the binder and put them in something more sturdy.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I have a few Crusades cards in my Reds collection. Definitely a Larkin or two. Can't remember which ones.

I had no idea these had gotten this expensive.

I think it might be time to pull them out of the binder and put them in something more sturdy.

If you have a red Larkin Call to Arms, please reach out to me.

[peterose4hof]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

If you have a red Larkin Call to Arms, please reach out to me.

I can't remember which colors I have. It's been many years since I've looked at them. I think I have some Deion Crusades too.

I also have one of the Larkin Essential Credentials that's really low serial #d. It's out of 20-something or 30-something.

Have the Essential Credentials gotten expensive as well?

[junkwaxgems]

Did anyone here win the red Crusade Brad Fullmer? I was unable to compete at the end and would love to work something out if available.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by peterose4hof

I can't remember which colors I have. It's been many years since I've looked at them. I think I have some Deion Crusades too.

I also have one of the Larkin Essential Credentials that's really low serial #d. It's out of 20-something or 30-something.

Have the Essential Credentials gotten expensive as well?

They won't sell as high as that Crusade (which was jersey # 11/25), but the essential credentials are pretty high as well. I have the 1999 Essential Credentials Now /34, but would buy the 1998 Essential Credentials Now /25 from you as well as the Crusade Red if you have it.

[vinson24]

Originally Posted by junkwaxgems

Did anyone here win the red Crusade Brad Fullmer? I was unable to compete at the end and would love to work something out if available.

By the feedback, looks like it was the same person that won the Bagwell won 19 of the 31 listed and won that Fulmer so it probably went to someone crazy enough trying to complete the set.
Ironically the only auction that bidder didn’t win was the Larkin, they bid $3,333 and was the only auction they lost. So keep that in mind Ohio


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[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by vinson24

By the feedback, looks like it was the same person that won the Bagwell won 19 of the 31 listed and won that Fulmer so it probably went to someone crazy enough trying to complete the set.
Ironically the only auction that bidder didn’t win was the Larkin, they bid $3,333 and was the only auction they lost. So keep that in mind Ohio


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Yeah, that's where I was thinking it would end. I wasn't sure what boost the jersey number would add. And I know there are a few big Larkin collectors chomping at the bit for that card as this is the only public sale, and I'm only aware of one private sale. So collectors will go hard for the Larkin right now.

[Finest]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

They won't sell as high as that Crusade (which was jersey # 11/25), but the essential credentials are pretty high as well. I have the 1999 Essential Credentials Now /34, but would buy the 1998 Essential Credentials Now /25 from you as well as the Crusade Red if you have it.

The 98 Essential Credentials Now would easily outsell the Crusade red.

[junkwaxgems]

Originally Posted by vinson24

By the feedback, looks like it was the same person that won the Bagwell won 19 of the 31 listed and won that Fulmer so it probably went to someone crazy enough trying to complete the set.
Ironically the only auction that bidder didn’t win was the Larkin, they bid $3,333 and was the only auction they lost. So keep that in mind Ohio


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Can't wait to see what vintage_snowmobiles lists it at!

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by Finest

The 98 Essential Credentials Now would easily outsell the Crusade red.

I wouldn't be so sure. With what I've seen in Larkin's market, the Crusade Red, 96 Mirror Gold, and 98 PMG would all outsell the 98 Now. I know as a Larkin guy, I'd pay more for the Crusade Red than 98 Now.

[vinson24]

Originally Posted by junkwaxgems

Can't wait to see what vintage_snowmobiles lists it at!

Lol well if vintage_snowmobiles has around 6409 feedback then that’s who got them. But the prices paid on the Bagwell and aortic, they will be sitting for a long time.


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[vinson24]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I wouldn't be so sure. With what I've seen in Larkin's market, the Crusade Red, 96 Mirror Gold, and 98 PMG would all outsell the 98 Now. I know as a Larkin guy, I'd pay more for the Crusade Red than 98 Now.

Yeah just like I would expect all of them to go for more than the 98 Bowman Chrome Golden Anniversary /5


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[caster513]

The Essential Credential Now are way tougher depending on the player. Bonds /2, Jeter /7, Ripken /9, Griffey /10 etc. So sure those are way tougher and more sought after than Crusades by a long shot.

I'd rank my EC Now Lofton /21 over the red Crusade all day...

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by caster513

The Essential Credential Now are way tougher depending on the player. Bonds /2, Jeter /7, Ripken /9, Griffey /10 etc. So sure those are way tougher and more sought after than Crusades by a long shot.

I'd rank my EC Now Lofton /21 over the red Crusade all day...

That's the problem. The EX Now is only super tough for some players, so it holds it back from as wide of an appeal. It's a big card, but for Larkin, it's probably #4 or 5.

It's fine if you prefer it over the Red Crusade. But in baseball, the Crusades have more clout than the Essential Credentials for a lot of collectors.

We are speculating here, but as one of the few people who would be bidding for the win on both cards, I'm confident that if both went to public auction right now, the Crusade sells higher. In fact, the Crusade just sold raw for $5111 with surface/edge damage visible in the photo. I doubt the 98 Now would get to $4000 even in better condition. I know I wouldn't pay anywhere near $5k for it. So you'd need to find 2 other Larkin guys to get it that high. And since the biggest Larkin guy I know already has one and wouldn't bid, good luck. You have to remember, the market for these cards is fierce, but small. And each player has a different, but specific group of collectors. I'm telling you, Larkin's Crusade Red is a bigger card than 98 Now. It's not that close.

[caster513]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

That's the problem. The EX Now is only super tough for some players, so it holds it back from as wide of an appeal. It's a big card, but for Larkin, it's probably #4 or 5.

It's fine if you prefer it over the Red Crusade. But in baseball, the Crusades have more clout than the Essential Credentials for a lot of collectors.

We are speculating here, but as one of the few people who would be bidding for the win on both cards, I'm confident that if both went to public auction right now, the Crusade sells higher. In fact, the Crusade just sold raw for $5111 with surface/edge damage visible in the photo. I doubt the 98 Now would get to $4000 even in better condition. I know I wouldn't pay anywhere near $5k for it. So you'd need to find 2 other Larkin guys to get it that high. And since the biggest Larkin guy I know already has one and wouldn't bid, good luck. You have to remember, the market for these cards is fierce, but small. And each player has a different, but specific group of collectors. I'm telling you, Larkin's Crusade Red is a bigger card than 98 Now. It's not that close.

I figured you were the guy that just grabbed the EC Now that just sold or no?

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by caster513

I figured you were the guy that just grabbed the EC Now that just sold or no?

I picked up the 99 EX Now recently. I haven't seen the 98 Now sell since Dead Guy Cardboard got his. Where did it sell? And for how much?

[caster513]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I picked up the 99 EX Now recently. I haven't seen the 98 Now sell since Dead Guy Cardboard got his. Where did it sell? And for how much?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/17641883530...vip=true&rt=nc

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by caster513

https://www.ebay.com/itm/17641883530...vip=true&rt=nc

What the heck? I have a saved search and check all new Larkin listings several times a day and never saw that one. That must not have been live long before the offer was accepted. Now I'm even more upset, having missed that and the Crusade Red in the same week. But while it wasn't an auction, so not all that telling, it did sell for significantly less than the Crusade Red. Nearly half, in fact.

[Neal]

Destination Cooperstown
Some think less than 50 made, I think it is probably 100 even

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[Finest]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

I wouldn't be so sure. With what I've seen in Larkin's market, the Crusade Red, 96 Mirror Gold, and 98 PMG would all outsell the 98 Now. I know as a Larkin guy, I'd pay more for the Crusade Red than 98 Now.

That's great that you would pay more for a crusade. But what matters most is what others would pay more for. How many 98 pmg Larkins have sold in the last 3 years? How many 98 Now Larkins have sold in the last 3 years. I would be willing to wager that the 98 Now Larkin would comfortably beat any of those three cards you listed.

[Finest]

Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

That's the problem. The EX Now is only super tough for some players, so it holds it back from as wide of an appeal. It's a big card, but for Larkin, it's probably #4 or 5.

It's fine if you prefer it over the Red Crusade. But in baseball, the Crusades have more clout than the Essential Credentials for a lot of collectors.

We are speculating here, but as one of the few people who would be bidding for the win on both cards, I'm confident that if both went to public auction right now, the Crusade sells higher. In fact, the Crusade just sold raw for $5111 with surface/edge damage visible in the photo. I doubt the 98 Now would get to $4000 even in better condition. I know I wouldn't pay anywhere near $5k for it. So you'd need to find 2 other Larkin guys to get it that high. And since the biggest Larkin guy I know already has one and wouldn't bid, good luck. You have to remember, the market for these cards is fierce, but small. And each player has a different, but specific group of collectors. I'm telling you, Larkin's Crusade Red is a bigger card than 98 Now. It's not that close.

Not only Larkin collectors for that one though. There are set collectors that love the low numbered EC Now's. The guy that got the Larkin on best offer got a steal. Should of auctioned that one off.

[Gem10collection]

Love the Crusade set for baseball and football. Imo, one of the top 5 sets of the 90's but isn't seen as so because there is no basketball version. Can you imagine.... Red Crusade /25 Michael Jordan?!

[Finest]

Originally Posted by Gem10collection

Love the Crusade set for baseball and football. Imo, one of the top 5 sets of the 90's but isn't seen as so because there is no basketball version. Can you imagine.... Red Crusade /25 Michael Jordan?!

Bingo! Basketball/Jordan drives the 90's market/prices. The EC now Jordan is his 2nd best card to the green pmg.