Patrick Mahomes Prices

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Delta5

What conspiracy did I spout? I just put the number of RTP mahomes and Allen got. Plain and simple

Sure..that's all what you're doing

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by Chris P

I answered..i edited my post to answer. Your "it's rigged for Mahomes" bs. Like I said if it makes you feel better, go nuts. You do whatever you can downplay Mahomes

I never said that. You just put words into my mouth now. I'm just challenging the notion that Allen gets more RTP calls when it clearly not true

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by Delta5

I never said that. You just put words into my mouth now. I'm just challenging the notion that Allen gets more RTP calls when it clearly not true

Sure man..whatever you say.

[Poorboy]

Well he has hides a skills
That maflop was art !!!!!

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

Well he has hides a skills
That maflop was art !!!!!

yup, Stroud is playing at a disadvantage. Need to go into acting class and get those flop game better

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by TSonn

I'm a Vikings fan and a Chiefs fan, two teams on opposite sides of the ref perception and I can confidently say nothing fishy is going on.

Just fodder for views and saying it's rigged gets more views.

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That's fair but there's a rising sentiment that something just isn't right. I wouldn't be so conspiratorial if the NFL decided to enhance the judicial process of overseeing games but for some reason....they do not want to.

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

That's fair but there's a rising sentiment that something just isn't right. I wouldn't be so conspiratorial if the NFL decided to enhance the judicial process of overseeing games but for some reason....they do not want to.

Why something as egregious and game altering calls like PI, face mask, horse collars, and RTP not reviewable? It's very easy to implement, but they chose not to

And ffs flopping should be penalized

[Earlsnake07]

Gd refs helped us again.........ohh well, #7 annual arrowhead invitational.

Can't wait for the next round of ref help

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by Delta5

yup, Stroud is playing at a disadvantage. Need to go into acting class and get those flop game better

It was baddddd dinner theatre imo
Chiefs won but got by with a little help from their friends lol
Would have been nice just to let the guys play

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

It was baddddd dinner theatre imo
Chiefs won but got by with a little help from their friends lol
Would have been nice just to let the guys play

No cant do sir. Gotta teach em texans a lesson, you dont touch our golden boy

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Delta5

Why something as egregious and game altering calls like PI, face mask, horse collars, and RTP not reviewable? It's very easy to implement, but they chose not to

And ffs flopping should be penalized

It's odd that they don't want to address that. Very odd. I think the answer to all this is to make those reviewable and also easy up on these micro infractions. If it's not egregious let it go. Micro managing the game with flags just creates more problems and quite frankly, is unwatchable.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by Delta5

No cant do sir. Gotta teach em texans a lesson, you dont touch our golden boy

I get that but at least make it look better lol

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

It's odd that they don't want to address that. Very odd. I think the answer to all this is to make those reviewable and also easy up on these micro infractions. If it's not egregious let it go. Micro managing the game with flags just creates more problems and quite frankly, is unwatchable.

3rd and long, RTP thats free 15 yards and 1st down. Pretty game altering tbh. NFL need to make sure to get these calls right otherwise the other team will feel shafted

[Poorboy]

For me it was all just a bit much
Bad acting
No concistency
And like I said everybody lives in texas knew that short of a forfeit
We was gonna get assisted out of a win
Just my opinion

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Delta5

3rd and long, RTP thats free 15 yards and 1st down. Pretty game altering tbh. NFL need to make sure to get these calls right otherwise the other team will feel shafted

It didn't used to be like that. Now a team makes a stand on 3rd down and more often than not there's a flag that continues the drive. Instead of the defense feeling good about themselves and going to the sidelines to rest they're out there trying to stop modern offensives that are given extra life and that are so skilled and explosive with amazing athletes. You don't celebrate a defensive stand right away anymore, you're looking for a flag. Back then you celebrated right away.

These bail out calls just feel so cheap. And if I see it and many people, pros, fans, coaches and commentators are saying it, to me that actually hurts Mahomes legacy. Say he does end up with more rings than Brady, he becomes kind of a Bill Russell type because of the cheap calls and the crappy competition (Not saying Russell had cheap calls and bad competition) and Brady is the Jordan. They may very well be the narrative. Still a win for Mahomies and Russell is an all time great but it's a narrative less than what they would want i'm sure.

I'm on record for my thoughts on Mahome's future accomplishments. A viewpoint not shared by anybody else that I could recall. It's that he' going to win super bowl after super bowl after super bowl with the league's help and the soft qb competition, lack of actual field generals at qb in the league. That's why I bought a great collection of Mahome's cards. I see the writing on the wall. But truth be told my assertions are an indictment on the poor state the NFL is in today not because of his actual greatness per se.

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

It didn't used to be like that. Now a team makes a stand on 3rd down and more often than not there's a flag that continues the drive. Instead of the defense feeling good about themselves and going to the sidelines to rest they're out there trying to stop modern offensives that are given extra life and that are so skilled and explosive with amazing athletes. You don't celebrate a defensive stand right away anymore, you're looking for a flag. Back then you celebrated right away.

These bail out calls just feel so cheap. And if I see it and many people, pros, fans, coaches and commentators are saying it, to me that actually hurts Mahomes legacy. Say he does end up with more rings than Brady, he becomes kind of a Bill Russell type because of the cheap calls and the crappy competition (Not saying Russell had cheap calls and bad competition) and Brady is the Jordan. They may very well be the narrative. Still a win for Mahomies and Russell is an all time great but it's a narrative less than what they would want i'm sure.

I'm on record for my thoughts on Mahome's future accomplishments. A viewpoint not shared by anybody else that I could recall. It's that he' going to win super bowl after super bowl after super bowl with the league's help and the soft qb competition, lack of actual field generals at qb in the league. That's why I bought a great collection of Mahome's cards. I see the writing on the wall. But truth be told my assertions are an indictment on the poor state the NFL is in today not because of his actual greatness per se.

Is there enough “stank” on this one to maybe get some action ?
Like I said in another thread there is outrage everywhere
Not just twitter lol

[gottagitdemjs]

Time to dust this one off. FYI It works just as effectively on JohnnyLovesJizz. Onward to the AFC Championship game. 7 Years as a starter...he's still a statistical guarantee to make the conference championship game. Hard to wrap your head around.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

Is there enough “stank” on this one to maybe get some action ?
Like I said in another thread there is outrage everywhere
Not just twitter lol

The NFL is going to fine the Texans hard and have a talk with ESPN about Joe,lol. They have the means, motives and opportunity to continue this gravy train charade and the only way to make it stop is for people to stop watching, which will not happen. If they didn't stop watching after last year or the year before, they will not stop now.

So you either get on board like I did and buy Mahomes or you quit. i have been watching sports all my life. If you do the former, you're just going along with their game and riding the coattails with the realization that it's all entertainment and any talk of GOAT legacy for mahomes is trivial and dubious.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by gottagitdemjs

Time to dust this one off. FYI It works just as effectively on JohnnyLovesJizz. Onward to the AFC Championship game. 7 Years as a starter...he's still a statistical guarantee to make the conference championship game. Hard to wrap your head around.

It took this long for somebody to call me that? I'm shocked i tell ya!

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

That's fair but there's a rising sentiment that something just isn't right. I wouldn't be so conspiratorial if the NFL decided to enhance the judicial process of overseeing games but for some reason....they do not want to.

The rising sentiment is just the algorithm pushing the dumb script narrative because it generates engagement, not based on any sort of reason.

The RTP today was the right call. The broadcast didn't show the angle that actually showed helmet to helmet until a quarter or more after the play. By then everyone had already written it off as a bad call even though it wasn't.

The Schultz "catch" immediately followed by the Collins "catch" were more egregious misses today but those will barely be talked about.

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[Poorboy]

No need for pages of this kind of stuff
I find it interesting the nba thread guys say it’s pretty much
A 3 point contest league
The drama we speak of here
And all the love mansfred gets for slowly ruining /modernizing baseball
Extra innings runner,pitch clock,giant bases ,pick off rules…
At what point does your favorite sport lose its traditional appeal?
Where you just say forget it and leave the table?
Sad for all of us …

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by TSonn

The rising sentiment is just the algorithm pushing the dumb script narrative because it generates engagement, not based on any sort of reason.

The RTP today was the right call. The broadcast didn't show the angle that actually showed helmet to helmet until a quarter or more after the play. By then everyone had already written it off as a bad call even though it wasn't.

The Schultz "catch" immediately followed by the Collins "catch" were more egregious misses today but those will barely be talked about.

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Alright I'll bite. Now, explain the late slide. What's the defender suppose to do there? kiss him goodnight?

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by TSonn

The rising sentiment is just the algorithm pushing the dumb script narrative because it generates engagement, not based on any sort of reason.

The RTP today was the right call. The broadcast didn't show the angle that actually showed helmet to helmet until a quarter or more after the play. By then everyone had already written it off as a bad call even though it wasn't.

The Schultz "catch" immediately followed by the Collins "catch" were more egregious misses today but those will barely be talked about.

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Do you believe other quarterbacks get those calls? If it's going to be called with an eagle eye, why isn't that applied equitably across the board? Why wasn't there a roughing call on Jayden Daniels when he went out of bounds during the lions/commanders game? Should I be led to believe that Mahomes doesn't get that call if it was him instead of Daniels? Why is this not an isolated problem but instead a trend?

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

No need for pages of this kind of stuff
I find it interesting the nba thread guys say it’s pretty much
A 3 point contest league
The drama we speak of here
And all the love mansfred gets for slowly ruining /modernizing baseball
Extra innings runner,pitch clock,giant bases ,pick off rules…
At what point does your favorite sport lose its traditional appeal?
Where you just say forget it and leave the table?
Sad for all of us …

People come and go all the time. There's people that traditionally watched football in the 70s and 80s that have nothing to do with the game anymore. They have been replaced with a new generation of fans. The NFL is expanding globally, they lose one of us they gain 3 fans overseas.

For me, modern movies stink, modern music stinks, video games are declining in quality. i guess I can read a book but there has to be some variety. Plus it's all relative, the cream rises to the top, always no matter the rule changes. Just don't tell me that cream is richer than the cream of years gone by.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

People come and go all the time. There's people that traditionally watched football in the 70s and 80s that have nothing to do with the game anymore. They have been replaced with a new generation of fans. The NFL is expanding globally, they lose one of us they gain 3 fans overseas.

For me, modern movies stink, modern music stinks, video games are declining in quality. i guess I can read a book but there has to be some variety. Plus it's all relative, the cream rises to the top, always no matter the rule changes. Just don't tell me that cream is richer than the cream of years gone by.

I still haven't figured out if you're serious about the crap you post or just playing the part of the out of touch boomer for laughs. If you're just playing a part then bravo on the dedication I guess, but it's getting old.