Patrick Mahomes Prices

[tjforce]

I love the matchup this week because it gives me another chance to talk about what is probably by most cherished item in my entire collection (maybe not the most valuable, but it brings me the most joy):










This ball was used in and has been photomatched to the 3rd and 4th quarter (and Overtime) of the Chiefs/Bills :13 second game, and has been signed by Mahomes, Tyreek, and Josh Allen (who signed it last, ironically). What's cool is not only is it photo matched, but since it's such a high profile game, it's been easy to find the TV broadcast and video match the ball (including catches by Hill, Kelce, McKinnon, and others).



And that's what makes this matchup so fun. These two already have been the premier matchup of this era of the NFL, and while I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win again, if Allen ends up getting by them finally and winning a Super Bowl, it only further cements this as the Brady/Manning matchup of this era.





I haven't been as excited for a Chiefs AFC championship matchup as I am with this one.

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I love the matchup this week because it gives me another chance to talk about what is probably by most cherished item in my entire collection (maybe not the most valuable, but it brings me the most joy):










This ball was used in and has been photomatched to the 3rd and 4th quarter (and Overtime) of the Chiefs/Bills :13 second game, and has been signed by Mahomes, Tyreek, and Josh Allen (who signed it last, ironically). What's cool is not only is it photo matched, but since it's such a high profile game, it's been easy to find the TV broadcast and video match the ball (including catches by Hill, Kelce, McKinnon, and others).



And that's what makes this matchup so fun. These two already have been the premier matchup of this era of the NFL, and while I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win again, if Allen ends up getting by them finally and winning a Super Bowl, it only further cements this as the Brady/Manning matchup of this era.





I haven't been as excited for a Chiefs AFC championship matchup as I am with this one.

Thats Awesome!!!

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I've switched some of my collecting to just holding onto the rarest of Mahomes cards, but I can't get rid of this card. PSA 10 Pop is just 237 on this... it hasn't moved much over the years, and at this point, I doubt it ever will.

Awesome card

I love this card. I have owned 3-4 of them over the years and have no intention on selling…


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[pejc300]

Originally Posted by Earlsnake07

I want you to bust a few....find a brother for this one!

20200414_150017 by Bryan Ronk, on Flickr

That is an incredibly cool card that you don't see very often. I bet it is very low pop in a PSA 10. Thanks for sharing!

[Rabs]

A few of mine:

[JWBlue]

I can't believe what Prizm Silver PSA 10s are selling for these days.

[Charismatic44th]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I love the matchup this week because it gives me another chance to talk about what is probably by most cherished item in my entire collection (maybe not the most valuable, but it brings me the most joy):










This ball was used in and has been photomatched to the 3rd and 4th quarter (and Overtime) of the Chiefs/Bills :13 second game, and has been signed by Mahomes, Tyreek, and Josh Allen (who signed it last, ironically). What's cool is not only is it photo matched, but since it's such a high profile game, it's been easy to find the TV broadcast and video match the ball (including catches by Hill, Kelce, McKinnon, and others).



And that's what makes this matchup so fun. These two already have been the premier matchup of this era of the NFL, and while I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win again, if Allen ends up getting by them finally and winning a Super Bowl, it only further cements this as the Brady/Manning matchup of this era.





I haven't been as excited for a Chiefs AFC championship matchup as I am with this one.

Well that's just insane

[chompie99]

Originally Posted by tjforce

I love the matchup this week because it gives me another chance to talk about what is probably by most cherished item in my entire collection (maybe not the most valuable, but it brings me the most joy):








This ball was used in and has been photomatched to the 3rd and 4th quarter (and Overtime) of the Chiefs/Bills :13 second game, and has been signed by Mahomes, Tyreek, and Josh Allen (who signed it last, ironically). What's cool is not only is it photo matched, but since it's such a high profile game, it's been easy to find the TV broadcast and video match the ball (including catches by Hill, Kelce, McKinnon, and others).



And that's what makes this matchup so fun. These two already have been the premier matchup of this era of the NFL, and while I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win again, if Allen ends up getting by them finally and winning a Super Bowl, it only further cements this as the Brady/Manning matchup of this era.





I haven't been as excited for a Chiefs AFC championship matchup as I am with this one.

Thanks for sharing! An awesome momento of an unforgettable game.

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

I can't believe what Prizm Silver PSA 10s are selling for these days.

as in low or high?

[JWBlue]

Originally Posted by pejc300

as in low or high?

High. Weren't silvers base cards that year?

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

High. Weren't silvers base cards that year?

Yes.

I'm one who can't wrap their heads around how high it's gotten either. I mean, $5k for a PSA 10? The pop is 965 on the 10. It's just insane.

His best GOAT comp thus far is Montana and his 1981 Topps PSA 9 sells for half of the Prizm Mahomes PSA 10, but is double the pop. Which would make sense except that the '81 Topps is Montana's only rookie and Mahomes has hundreds of others, many of which are far higher in value.

TL; DR - it's supremely overvalued.

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Yes.

I'm one who can't wrap their heads around how high it's gotten either. I mean, $5k for a PSA 10? The pop is 965 on the 10. It's just insane.

His best GOAT comp thus far is Montana and his 1981 Topps PSA 9 sells for half of the Prizm Mahomes PSA 10, but is double the pop. Which would make sense except that the '81 Topps is Montana's only rookie and Mahomes has hundreds of others, many of which are far higher in value.

TL; DR - it's supremely overvalued.

Registry card. Every Mahomes RC registry and PSA HOF registry are going to need one. 965 is insanely LOW for modern era PSA Prizm. Plus, even though it's base it's a Silver (Think 2002 Topps Chrome RCs) which is one of the go to cards for every modern player. I'm not trying to argue, just explain some of the reasoning.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Registry card. Every Mahomes RC registry and PSA HOF registry are going to need one. 965 is insanely LOW for modern era PSA Prizm. Plus, even though it's base it's a Silver (Think 2002 Topps Chrome RCs) which is one of the go to cards for every modern player. I'm not trying to argue, just explain some of the reasoning.

Correct.

I feel Mahomes prices are super low.

Even the biased announcers like Aikman can't keep trying to say he "might" catch Brady forever. He will shatter the yards/td records and challenge or eclipse the mvp and SB records. He's a different breed.

The only thing for Mahomes would be a major injury... yet he's still first ballot HOF with what he's done today. With the league-wide QB protection trend, that injury is unlikely.

He can win with arm or legs.
He wins shootouts or grind-a-thons.
He wins without Hill.. will win without Kelce... will win without Andy Reid (although Reid could go awhile!).
He is built differently. That's for damn sure.

Personally, I like Panini 104 Mahomes 2017... really good picture and a basic yet iconic card. Red /49 and Templar and Chainmail are even cooler.

[jjrpilot]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Personally, I like Panini 104 Mahomes 2017... really good picture and a basic yet iconic card. Red /49

It is cool that's why you should keep it! I see you've listed it on eBay ha

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

It is cool that's why you should keep it! I see you've listed it on eBay ha

No, i just took the pic as example.
I have many 104 mahomes base RC panini and templar and such... none of the /49 red ones.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Guys...
Yes, I know that Josh Allen has been given more roughing the passer calls per game from refs than any active QB in the NFL...

https://www.nflpenalties.com/roughin...hp?view=active

I wonder if his flopping helps him get these calls.



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[HBMC]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Personally, I like Panini 104 Mahomes 2017... really good picture and a basic yet iconic card. Red /49 and Templar and Chainmail are even cooler.

Welcome to the thread!

I got a chainmail quite a while back and they are outstanding to look at in person.

[pejc300]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

High. Weren't silvers base cards that year?

I only asked because they actually peaked at 15k during the boom which is just wild. As Sleeper said, there are thousands of PSA 10 base of Luka, Ja, Zion, and so many others. Less than 1,000 gems for an iconic card like that is pretty wild. At the same time, I could see wanting to get a RC auto instead.

[JohnnyHatesJazz]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

Aikman is a well-established Mahomes hater. He was a sniveling whimper whiner tweeting noise about Mahomes years ago. Announcers without a giant axe to grind would point out that helmet-to-helmet, especially on a QB, is a major point of emphasis and the defender will almost never get the benefit of the doubt on it.

He had to swallow the bitter, bitter taste of watching Mahomes surpass his career rather easily. It was hilarious, HILARIOUS watching them snivel that Mahomes is a flopper then watch Mahomes unleash another beauty for the all-time highlight reel on the very next play. Truly, poetic justice and beautiful symbolism of all these clowns that hate on Mahomes and the Chiefs only to watch the Chiefs continue to dominate.

Aikman is no different from our resident Bills troll and the insecure Pats fans watching what they thought was a glorious dynasty for all time being surpassed in real time. Nevermind they are what they claimed to hate--yup you guys are the modern day deflategate and cameragate truthers. Also pretty frickin' HILARIOUS to hear BRADY BOIS (and Allen guys for that matter) complain about how someone else gets all the calls.

The fact of the matter is these guys just grasp at straws continuously looking for the next narrative to try and tear down Mahomes and wishcast his imminent fall. First he was Brett Favre or Russell Wilson and he was just an early career wonder, then it was well they won't keep drafting well then it was oh his contract will ruin their cap (remember, Fenway?), then it was blah blah ref blah blah let's see him do it without Kelce and Reid blah blah his stats are down blah blah Brady's contemporaries were better blah blah.

It must be hard coming up with all those new angles constantly. They get batted down so easily too. You know what they say though: Haters gon' hate!

Serious question but what do you do as a defender? You're going in to make a play. Are you just automatically effed? To me those were football plays all day. If you can't even play at your pace and have to telepathically react to what the quarterback is going to do then you might as well put flags on these guys.

But serious question, as a defender what do YOU recommend the defender should do?

[2010GBPackers]

Originally Posted by SleeperCards

Registry card. Every Mahomes RC registry and PSA HOF registry are going to need one. 965 is insanely LOW for modern era PSA Prizm. Plus, even though it's base it's a Silver (Think 2002 Topps Chrome RCs) which is one of the go to cards for every modern player. I'm not trying to argue, just explain some of the reasoning.

Yes, for a Prizm era card, it's a low pop. And I understand the weight a registry card has on values as well. Even with those two things factored in, it doesn't make a ton of sense.

Here's another example (and registry card as well):

1998 Topps Chrome refractor Peyton Manning: It's a pop 45 in a PSA 10 (5% of the pop for the Prizm Mahomes) and sells for ~$10k. Also, the ENTIRE pop for that card across all grades is a measly 432 while the Prizm Mahomes is approaching a total pop of 6,000.

Mahomes has a bigger collector base, but not by that much.

[Rabs]

Originally Posted by HBMC

Welcome to the thread!

I got a chainmail quite a while back and they are outstanding to look at in person.

Show us!

[SleeperCards]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Yes, for a Prizm era card, it's a low pop. And I understand the weight a registry card has on values as well. Even with those two things factored in, it doesn't make a ton of sense.

Here's another example (and registry card as well):

1998 Topps Chrome refractor Peyton Manning: It's a pop 45 in a PSA 10 (5% of the pop for the Prizm Mahomes) and sells for ~$10k. Also, the ENTIRE pop for that card across all grades is a measly 432 while the Prizm Mahomes is approaching a total pop of 6,000.

Mahomes has a bigger collector base, but not by that much.

It's not THE registry card for Manning though, as in HOF registry, that would be the SP Authentic. Manning collectors will be fighting each other over the TC Refractor as opposed to everyone who wants a HOF registry set having to fight each other for Mahomes Prizm (or SP Authentic Manning), much bigger pool of buyers.

On a personal note I'm also not a fan of Manning and don't think he's a great buy for the future (not going to disappear like Brees value, just not bullish) so I honestly would take $10k in Mahomes over a $10k Manning Refractor.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

Serious question but what do you do as a defender? You're going in to make a play. Are you just automatically effed? To me those were football plays all day. If you can't even play at your pace and have to telepathically react to what the quarterback is going to do then you might as well put flags on these guys.

But serious question, as a defender what do YOU recommend the defender should do?

A very under-the-radar element of the NFL (or any sport) these days is the politics with the league and the refs. It was always there with Jordan, Brady, etc... but it was more post-game and pre-game interviews. Now, with 101 cameras on any play, it's in-game too.

Mahomes does it far better than anyone.
You can really see this if you saw the Quarterback show. He is cool to refs, teammates, opponent players. He is a hard dude not to like... even the haters respect him a bit.

This stuff is why nearly everyone likes Mahomes or Peyton, yet Lamar Jackson or Favre get barely any endorsements. All are talented... yet the former guys are likable and played the media/league metagame much better than the latter ones.

But yeah, the league has to do something about the QB slide and out of bounds stuff. They need more consistency. However, they are playing the game as it is today... in its present form and rule set. Helmet to helmet is automatic flag. Shoves or QB falls OOB and after the throw are probably a flag. All anyone can do is play the hand that they are dealt. Love him or hate him, he does it well.

[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by Brazenways

Flawless by 20k.

Also interesting to see both cards flipped recently. Flawless acquired two months ago and the NT nearly two years ago. Wonder if it’s the same “collector”.

Still hours to go, but NT /25 barely 2 color patch is 60k vs the PSA 10 flawless RPA at 48k

[pejc300]

I am 44 years old and have been watching sports since I was 6. In my 38 years, I cannot recall a single time a player ever admitted to flopping, let alone express regret.

“I would say the only one I felt like I probably did too much was the one on the sideline where I didn’t get the flag. The ref saw it and didn’t throw a flag, I understood it immediately and know that I probably shouldn’t have done that.”

I love this guy. He did not "need" to do that, but I think he actually was disappointed in himself and I don't think you'll see that behavior going forward.