Topps 582 Montgomery Club

[PumpnDumpling]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

More than I need from the raffle days

Have you ever come across a Strongman Financial (CPA) vid on YT?

I can only take so much, but the horse squealing does crack me up from time to time

[freddyb]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

No one in the History of Topps has botted a On Demand Release. They just print as many as are ordered. The mini since 2017 has been on Demand so why would anyone BOT it?

Nowhere does it say this is an on demand order in 2022

[Thepjguy]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Someone doesn't know what they are talking about.

Of course when you take it out of context. They were previously on demand products, when you could order as many as you want!

[Thepjguy]

Originally Posted by freddyb

Nowhere does it say this is an on demand order in 2022

Thank you!!! Thats point of how stupid this release is. They are not on Demand in 2022! They have been in the past and no one wanted them.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

In 2017 2018 2019 2020 They were sold as On Demand Products: You could order up to 100 packs per order as many times as you wanted. Trust me on that as I ordered 3 separate 100 pack orders in 2017 and 2018.

They printed however many were ordered! All of the parallels were serial numbered those years as well.

For example in 2018 only 5000 packs sold, so half of the pink parallels have never shown up.

No they didn't. There was a finite amount every year.

[dantheman514]

I am out on this one. My rational, cheap side cannot make sense of paying $28 for shipping six small boxes. It is probably for the best since the odds of pulling any of the rookies is rather slim with a 990 card checklist. Good luck to those who do purchase and rip.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Of course when you take it out of context. They were previously on demand products, when you could order as many as you want!

Yes, they were on demand. NO, you could not order as many as you want. I was purchasing them in 2020 when they went out of stock well before the timer expired. You can stand your ground all you want, but you are wrong.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Of course when you take it out of context. They were previously on demand products, when you could order as many as you want!

You could order as many as you wanted UNTIL THEY SOLD OUT.

They did not cap them per user, but they were not print on-demand. That's the difference.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Thank you!!! Thats point of how stupid this release is. They are not on Demand in 2022! They have been in the past and no one wanted them.

Per CC: "Boxes sell for $24.99 and include 35 random cards. Like in 2018, the boxes are available direct from Topps' online store for an extended period of around one month, but only as supplies last.

UPDATE: After being available for a few hours, the product was listed as "sold out" on the Topps site."

[Thepjguy]

Originally Posted by premium1981

No they didn't. There was a finite amount every year.

Not true.

Look through the history from 2017-2020

in 2017 there was 9899 packs sold
in 2018 there was 5000 packs sold
in 2019 there was 9700 packs sold
in 2020 there was 13401 packs

The set up of the packs has been similar since 2017
3 parallels plus the 1987,1983,1984, and 1985 cards with a parallel out of 25 except for 2018 where it was out of /10

Do you think they just skipped half the pink and half the blue parallels in 2018? No, they didnt sell enough in 2018 to include all the parallels thus half the pink (/25) and half the blue parallels (/10) were not created

You could buy those packs for 30 days from when they went live in 2017, 2018, and 2019 and you could buy as many as you wanted as they never sold out. They may have sold out in 2020 but it was still on Demand and you could order as many as you wanted as they didnt sell out for days.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Not true.

Look through the history from 2017-2020

in 2017 there was 9899 packs sold
in 2018 there was 5000 packs sold
in 2019 there was 9700 packs sold
in 2020 there was 13401 packs

The set up of the packs has been similar since 2017
3 parallels plus the 1987,1983,1984, and 1985 cards with a parallel out of 25 except for 2018 where it was out of /10

Do you think they just skipped half the pink and half the blue parallels in 2018? No, they didnt sell enough in 2018 to include all the parallels thus half the pink (/25) and half the blue parallels (/10) were not created

You could buy those packs for 30 days from when they went live in 2017, 2018, and 2019 and you could buy as many as you wanted as they never sold out. They may have sold out in 2020 but it was still on Demand and you could order as many as you wanted as they didnt sell out for days.

I'm not going to keep arguing, because its pointless, and you are wrong. But I will leave you with this. Topps doesn't create an equal amount of products every year. Print runs change. I have bought it every year and I know for a fact it isn't print to order. Simple as that.

[LittleJimmies]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Not true.

Look through the history from 2017-2020

in 2017 there was 9899 packs sold
in 2018 there was 5000 packs sold
in 2019 there was 9700 packs sold
in 2020 there was 13401 packs

The set up of the packs has been similar since 2017
3 parallels plus the 1987,1983,1984, and 1985 cards with a parallel out of 25 except for 2018 where it was out of /10

Do you think they just skipped half the pink and half the blue parallels in 2018? No, they didnt sell enough in 2018 to include all the parallels thus half the pink (/25) and half the blue parallels (/10) were not created

You could buy those packs for 30 days from when they went live in 2017, 2018, and 2019 and you could buy as many as you wanted as they never sold out. They may have sold out in 2020 but it was still on Demand and you could order as many as you wanted as they didnt sell out for days.

Just take a breath and go look at any information available online. There has been a set amount printed for minis since 2018.

[Tonic3]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Not true.

Look through the history from 2017-2020

in 2017 there was 9899 packs sold
in 2018 there was 5000 packs sold
in 2019 there was 9700 packs sold
in 2020 there was 13401 packs

The set up of the packs has been similar since 2017
3 parallels plus the 1987,1983,1984, and 1985 cards with a parallel out of 25 except for 2018 where it was out of /10

Do you think they just skipped half the pink and half the blue parallels in 2018? No, they didnt sell enough in 2018 to include all the parallels thus half the pink (/25) and half the blue parallels (/10) were not created

You could buy those packs for 30 days from when they went live in 2017, 2018, and 2019 and you could buy as many as you wanted as they never sold out. They may have sold out in 2020 but it was still on Demand and you could order as many as you wanted as they didnt sell out for days.

Read that statement again and think about it. How could 2020 be "On Demand" and how could they print as much as they want if it sold out before the timer ran out. It obviously wasn't print to order. There was a finite amount, hence why it sold out before the timer ran out. Both can't be true

I would bet that previous years if it didn't sell out during the offering they likely just unloaded to distributors at a reduced price. If you think Topps is waiting until the timer runs out before they start producing this product then.....well........I don't think there's any rationalizing with you.

[robbucjr]

They were definitely not on-demand in 2020 as I dragged my feet on buying them and they ended up selling out well before the timer expired, so I got shut out. That is not an on-demand product.

[ATLOTP]

sure would love to order in qty of mini. oh well

[jeffcaff]

Since orders ship in 10-15 business days, Topps has already printed everything and it is boxed up ready to go. On Demand products normally take at least 2-3 months to ship.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

Not true.

Look through the history from 2017-2020

in 2017 there was 9899 packs sold
in 2018 there was 5000 packs sold
in 2019 there was 9700 packs sold
in 2020 there was 13401 packs

The set up of the packs has been similar since 2017
3 parallels plus the 1987,1983,1984, and 1985 cards with a parallel out of 25 except for 2018 where it was out of /10

Do you think they just skipped half the pink and half the blue parallels in 2018? No, they didnt sell enough in 2018 to include all the parallels thus half the pink (/25) and half the blue parallels (/10) were not created

You could buy those packs for 30 days from when they went live in 2017, 2018, and 2019 and you could buy as many as you wanted as they never sold out. They may have sold out in 2020 but it was still on Demand and you could order as many as you wanted as they didnt sell out for days.

I believe you are right about 2018. Interesting year with all of the RCs that year. But the sets ran out of time and were pulled with about half the expected print run. So sold out but was probably supposed to have about a 10,000 PR.
That is why several parallels were cut (destroyed I guess) from the sets.

Sets were available on 11/01/18 and I had several purchases on 11/23 before the timer went out. I think I was taking advantage of the special Black Friday/Cyber Monday cards they had for purchases over $20 dollers (think it was Acuna/Soto/Torres/Trout/Ohtani). More here: https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...seball&page=37

[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by Thepjguy

This is the dumbest release of all time with the shipping. I used to buy 250-400 packs of this every year, and have 5 customers that want sets. Now i can get 6 packs and build about 15% of the set? #@#@#@#@ing Topps, only a handful of people buy these

Yep, classic set builders product. Maybe will hit BO in a few weeks and we can get a quantity. But at $31 shipped for 6 boxes I’ll pass.

[Archangel1775]

I'll chime in and say that 2012 and 2013 were not On-Demand. I'm pretty sure anything packaged in foil wrap isn't On-Demand. Is the Mini release being confused with something else? Is the term "On-Demand" being confused?

[cj828282]

Well just because Topps states on-demand does not necessarily mean on-demand (minis, 3Ds, etc.)

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I'll chime in and say that 2012 and 2013 were not On-Demand. I'm pretty sure anything packaged in foil wrap isn't On-Demand. Is the Mini release being confused with something else?

2012-2014 was a different product, I opened a lot of that. They were 24 pack boxes with parallels and either an auto or jersey in every box.

[cj828282]

Originally Posted by no10pin

2012-2014 was a different product, I opened a lot of that. They were 24 pack boxes with parallels and either an auto or jersey in every box.

As I remember, autos were very difficult hits. Like hitting autos out of Opening Day.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by cj828282

As I remember, autos were very difficult hits. Like hitting autos out of Opening Day.

Yeah, I think 2012 they were a little easier, I remember pulling a Harper and a few others. By 2014 they were much tougher to hit if I'm remembering correctly.

[eastbayak]

Keep going back and forth on the Minis.

Is this a fun product to rip? The large checklist is concerning but the 3 included parallels and chase autos are nice.

I've only ever bought Minis (once or twice) to flip sealed.

[smanzari]

Originally Posted by eastbayak

Keep going back and forth on the Minis.

Is this a fun product to rip? The large checklist is concerning but the 3 included parallels and chase autos are nice.

I've only ever bought Minis (once or twice) to flip sealed.

fun to rip, tough to move