Patrick Mahomes Prices

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Winning a SB does more for legacy vs 0-4….but here’s my point
Player one: 1-3 SBs
Player two: 1-0 SB

I rather choose player one all day

Of course Delta is gonna say missing the super bowl is better than making one and losing..he has to move the goalposts for his guy and his 0 super bowl appearences

[Chris P]

I guess I'll always thinks its crazy and ridiculous to try to argue that someone is better because they went 4-0 couldn't get their team to another chance at a super bowl win than a player going 4-4. You'll never convince me that's logical. The 4-0 guy could theoritcally never lead a team to the playoffs again and be a bottom dweller and you'd still say he had a better career than someone going to the super bowl 8 times and going .500.

[jmarascojr]

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Originally Posted by Chris P

I guess I'll always thinks its crazy and ridiculous to try to argue that someone is better because they went 4-0 couldn't get their team to another chance at a super bowl win than a player going 4-4. You'll never convince me that's logical. The 4-0 guy could theoritcally never lead a team to the playoffs again and be a bottom dweller and you'd still say he had a better career than someone going to the super bowl 8 times and going .500.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Lol, people who can't afford Mahomes cards... then bash Mahomes in any way possible. Love it.

This is classic beta move of shooting the arrow, and then painting the bullseye around it.
It's marrying the girl who's a 6... and saying you didn't want a 9 or a 10 because "they're stuck up." Lol.

Keep buying those lesser QBs whose cards will mostly be in the dollar or free piles when they retire.
Sports cards is a SUPERstar system. Every real good player has a few injury years or playoff stumbles. Every single one.
I would strongly encourage anyone here to open old packs (at least 5-10yrs, or more). Junk wax packs ~1985-1995 are basically free - for any sport you want. You will see that 98% of the players/cards are worthless. Many guys had a few good years. In the end, even Favre or Marino cards are worth VERY little relative to Brady - pennies on the dollar. Superstars are what matters... but none of them win it all (SB, MVP) every year.

I love Patty. I have autographed rookies of him and 40+ unopened boxes from 2017 so I'm heavily invested.

But like I said before, there's losing and still looking "good" and losing and looking really bad. Patty looked really bad in the SB. This will set his legacy back. The good news is, he has plenty of time to get past it.

The problem with some of the homers here, is they aren't honest. If Patty has a stellar game, I praise him, but if he craps the bed, I also call him on it. Just like I did in the Brady thread when he played.

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by slyguy

I simply can't wait for KC to draft OL, get FA OL, get a FA WR (or re-sign HBrown), maybe get Rice back, and have an absolutely dominant offense (again).

I would love to read here and then see what people say then about Mahomes cheating or anyone can do it with that team, but I'll probably be too busy opening my 2017 sealed packs to send some PM RCs for grading.

Agree with you on this.


I really think they only need a few pieces and they will be fine.

I also think Broncos and Chargers will improve, but I still see KC winning the division in 2025, even with the tough schedule as the hardest games are at home.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

Agree with you on this.

I really think they only need a few pieces and they will be fine.

I also think Broncos and Chargers will improve, but I still see KC winning the division in 2025, even with the tough schedule as the hardest games are at home.

Chiefs will win that division nearly every year barring injury to Mahomes or other key players.

It's just like Brady Pats: theirs to lose.

Broncos and Chargers are good... KC is better.

Similarly, Burrow or Josh Allen or etc may oust them in playoffs a few years, but Chiefs will do the most winning. It's a class organization and generational/GOAT talent at quarterback.

[kaisersoze]

patty looking fresh. this new haircut is sure to boost sales with all indication he means business in 2025

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by slyguy

I simply can't wait for KC to draft OL, get FA OL,...

Wait? They've used 2nd, 3rd & 5th round picks on OL the past two years, and signed Taylor before last year to a big deal.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Lol, people who can't afford Mahomes cards... then bash Mahomes in any way possible. Love it.

This is classic beta move of shooting the arrow, and then painting the bullseye around it.
It's marrying the girl who's a 6... and saying you didn't want a 9 or a 10 because "they're stuck up." Lol.

Keep buying those lesser QBs whose cards will mostly be in the dollar or free piles when they retire.
Sports cards is a SUPERstar system. Every real good player has a few injury years or playoff stumbles. Every single one.
I would strongly encourage anyone here to open old packs (at least 5-10yrs, or more). Junk wax packs ~1985-1995 are basically free - for any sport you want. You will see that 98% of the players/cards are worthless. Many guys had a few good years. In the end, even Favre or Marino cards are worth VERY little relative to Brady - pennies on the dollar. Superstars are what matters... but none of them win it all (SB, MVP) every year.

preach brotha

funny thing is these trolls could probably join the mahomes train right now but they're too stubborn or dumb to.

[Whodatiz]

Are those cash transactions as well?

Originally Posted by slyguy

Lol, people who can't afford Mahomes cards... then bash Mahomes in any way possible. Love it.

This is classic beta move of shooting the arrow, and then painting the bullseye around it.
It's marrying the girl who's a 6... and saying you didn't want a 9 or a 10 because "they're stuck up." Lol.

Keep buying those lesser QBs whose cards will mostly be in the dollar or free piles when they retire.
Sports cards is a SUPERstar system. Every real good player has a few injury years or playoff stumbles. Every single one.
I would strongly encourage anyone here to open old packs (at least 5-10yrs, or more). Junk wax packs ~1985-1995 are basically free - for any sport you want. You will see that 98% of the players/cards are worthless. Many guys had a few good years. In the end, even Favre or Marino cards are worth VERY little relative to Brady - pennies on the dollar. Superstars are what matters... but none of them win it all (SB, MVP) every year.

[49erRCCollector]

I do think we are a little too hard on QBs these days, judging them in the moment for every loss, etc. I'm guilty of this, too.

Can you imagine what we'd be saying about Elway before his last two years?

Truth is he was a GREAT QB, without the SBs. But his legacy would be garbage without the two rings.

And in modern collecting, because he didn't win big early in his career, his prices would be a lot less.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I do think we are a little too hard on QBs these days, judging them in the moment for every loss, etc. I'm guilty of this, too.

Can you imagine what we'd be saying about Elway before his last two years?

Truth is he was a GREAT QB, without the SBs. But his legacy would be garbage without the two rings.

And in modern collecting, because he didn't win big early in his career, his prices would be a lot less.

Terrell Davis gave Elway his legacy. That man better get the best gifts during the holidays

[blackbears86]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I do think we are a little too hard on QBs these days, judging them in the moment for every loss, etc. I'm guilty of this, too.

Can you imagine what we'd be saying about Elway before his last two years?

Truth is he was a GREAT QB, without the SBs. But his legacy would be garbage without the two rings.

And in modern collecting, because he didn't win big early in his career, his prices would be a lot less.

That's the nature of football and especially QB's.


They get a little too much glory in a win, and too much criticism in a loss

[mjekase]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

I do think we are a little too hard on QBs these days, judging them in the moment for every loss, etc. I'm guilty of this, too.

Can you imagine what we'd be saying about Elway before his last two years?

Truth is he was a GREAT QB, without the SBs. But his legacy would be garbage without the two rings.

And in modern collecting, because he didn't win big early in his career, his prices would be a lot less.

Excellent points.
And, if I had to compare Mahomes to a QB from that era - talent/skill-wise - it would probably be Elway.

[KardsC1]

The end user of cards is the collector .a collector is collecting because he is a fan of the player and will have nostalgia when all is said and done …the goat talk is nice but goat talk will always be subjective..I said this before but the last 3 seasons have been a joy to watch owning Mahomes cards..the value on them are just icing on the cake..watching mahomes in the playoffs (aside from this SB) has been a joy and will be a memory I will have for the rest of my life..now having said that, I have only a few cards of his and those are amongst some of his best ones..I know if I sell them, it would extremely difficult to ever get them back..I know going forward nothing is a sure thing but what we do know is that winning SBs is a rare thing..if mahomes wins another 3, it would be monumental..but that implies also 7 seasons of failure (assuming he plays 10 more)..so as a fan, we have to accept valleys and highs as they come and be realistic

[f2tornado]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Lol, people who can't afford Mahomes cards... then bash Mahomes in any way possible. Love it....

Keep buying those lesser QBs whose cards will mostly be in the dollar or free piles when they retire.
Sports cards is a SUPERstar system. Every real good player has a few injury years or playoff stumbles. Every single one.
I would strongly encourage anyone here to open old packs (at least 5-10yrs, or more). Junk wax packs ~1985-1995 are basically free - for any sport you want. You will see that 98% of the players/cards are worthless. Many guys had a few good years. In the end, even Favre or Marino cards are worth VERY little relative to Brady - pennies on the dollar. Superstars are what matters... but none of them win it all (SB, MVP) every year.

I don't see much Mahomes bashing here. I see far more overly defensive posts when someone makes a reasoned comment about any potential downside for Mahomes card values. I do agree from an investment perspective a person is usually better off sticking with the all-time greats. Long term, only a handful are going to be worth real money and Mahomes will be one of them. The question is will he retire with higher card values than today or lower? Cards are like stock and have expectations built into the price. Failure to achieve and the price will drop. Exceed, and the price goes up. Indeed, a lot of decent player rookie cards will end up in the dollar box. I even occasionally find Jim Kelly, Randall Cunningham, and Brett Favre in those boxes. None of them were slouches.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

I don't see much Mahomes bashing here. I see far more overly defensive posts when someone makes a reasoned comment about any potential downside for Mahomes card values. I do agree from an investment perspective a person is usually better off sticking with the all-time greats. Long term, only a handful are going to be worth real money and Mahomes will be one of them. The question is will he retire with higher card values than today or lower? Cards are like stock and have expectations built into the price. Failure to achieve and the price will drop. Exceed, and the price goes up. Indeed, a lot of decent player rookie cards will end up in the dollar box. I even occasionally find Jim Kelly, Randall Cunningham, and Brett Favre in those boxes. None of them were slouches.

Mahomes prices vs Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson prices? They may all be "baked in" to some extent but mahomes seems like the best "deal" out of the 3

[wharfrat7624]

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[KardsC1]

Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

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Awesome pickup…I would rather have that vs a PSA 9 contenders optic …
For me:
Cracked ice
Champ ticket
Base ticket

[wharfrat7624]

Originally Posted by KardsC1

Awesome pickup…I would rather have that vs a PSA 9 contenders optic …
For me:
Cracked ice
Champ ticket
Base ticket

Thank you! I have wanted one for a while.


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[Delta5]

Originally Posted by blackbears86

I love Patty. I have autographed rookies of him and 40+ unopened boxes from 2017 so I'm heavily invested.

But like I said before, there's losing and still looking "good" and losing and looking really bad. Patty looked really bad in the SB. This will set his legacy back. The good news is, he has plenty of time to get past it.

The problem with some of the homers here, is they aren't honest. If Patty has a stellar game, I praise him, but if he craps the bed, I also call him on it. Just like I did in the Brady thread when he played.

They want their cake and eats it too. When a team win QB gets the lion share of credit but when they lose people try shift the blame to WRs, coaching, RB or whatever

[Delta5]

Originally Posted by f2tornado

I don't see much Mahomes bashing here. I see far more overly defensive posts when someone makes a reasoned comment about any potential downside for Mahomes card values. I do agree from an investment perspective a person is usually better off sticking with the all-time greats. Long term, only a handful are going to be worth real money and Mahomes will be one of them. The question is will he retire with higher card values than today or lower? Cards are like stock and have expectations built into the price. Failure to achieve and the price will drop. Exceed, and the price goes up. Indeed, a lot of decent player rookie cards will end up in the dollar box. I even occasionally find Jim Kelly, Randall Cunningham, and Brett Favre in those boxes. None of them were slouches.

Shhh, ignorance is a bliss for these people. They'd rather watch price tank than sell at peak

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

I finally picked up a Contenders auto. I was focused on getting one with a nice bold auto…




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Congrats! Sweet card

[weeds73]

Originally Posted by wharfrat7624

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Congrats. Great pick up.


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[boxbuster7]

stellar pickup