Rolling 2017 Bowman Draft Autograph Checklist Thread

[NickM]

Reposting, showing the order of picks.

1 1 Twins Royce Lewis SS AUTO CONFIRMED
1 2 Reds Hunter Greene RHP 2018 Bowman
1 3 Padres MacKenzie Gore LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 4 Rays Brendan McKay 1B AUTO CONFIRMED
1 5 Braves Kyle Wright RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 6 Athletics Austin Beck OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1 7 Diamondbacks Pavin Smith 1B AUTO CONFIRMED
1 8 Phillies Adam Haseley OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1 9 Brewers Keston Hiura 2B AUTO CONFIRMED
1 10 Angels Jo Adell OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1 11 White Sox Jake Burger 3B AUTO CONFIRMED
1 12 Pirates Shane Baz RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 13 Marlins Trevor Rogers LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 14 Royals Nick Pratto 1B AUTO CONFIRMED
1 15 Astros J.B. Bukauskas RHP North Carolina
1 16 Yankees Clarke Schmidt RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 17 Mariners Evan White 1B AUTO CONFIRMED
1 18 Tigers Alex Faedo RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 19 Giants Heliot Ramos OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1 20 Mets David Peterson LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 21 Orioles D.L. Hall LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 22 Blue Jays Logan Warmoth SS AUTO CONFIRMED
1 23 Dodgers Jeren Kendall OF Vanderbilt
1 24 Red Sox Tanner Houck RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 25 Nationals Seth Romero LHP Houston
1 26 Rangers Bubba Thompson OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1 27 Cubs Brendon Little LHP State JC of Florida
1 28 Blue Jays Nate Pearson RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
1 29 Rangers Chris Seise SS AUTO CONFIRMED
1 30 Cubs Alex Lange RHP Louisiana State
1.5 32 Reds Jeter Downs SS AUTO CONFIRMED
1.5 33 Athletics Kevin Merrell SS AUTO CONFIRMED
1.5 34 Brewers Tristen Lutz OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1.5 35 Twins Brent Rooker OF AUTO CONFIRMED
1.5 36 Marlins Brian Miller OF AUTO CONFIRMED
2 37 Twins Landon Leach RHP Pickering HS, Ajax, Ont.
2 38 Reds Stuart Fairchild OF AUTO CONFIRMED
2 39 Padres Luis Campusano C AUTO CONFIRMED
2 40 Rays Michael Mercado RHP Westview HS, San Diego
2 41 Braves Drew Waters OF AUTO CONFIRMED
2 42 Pirates Steven Jennings RHP Dekalb County HS, Smithville, Tenn.
2 43 Athletics Greg Deichmann OF Louisiana State
2 44 Diamondbacks Drew Ellis AUTO CONFIRMED
2 45 Phillies Spencer Howard RHP Cal Poly
2 46 Brewers Caden Lemons RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2 47 Angels Griffin Canning RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2 48 Rockies Ryan Vilade 3B AUTO CONFIRMED
2 49 White Sox Gavin Sheets 1B AUTO CONFIRMED
2 50 Pirates Calvin Mitchell OF Rancho Bernardo HS, San Diego
2 51 Marlins Joe Dunand 3B North Carolina State
2 52 Royals M.J. Melendez C AUTO CONFIRMED
2 53 Astros Joe Perez 3B AUTO CONFIRMED
2 54 Yankees Matt Sauer RHP Righetti HS, Santa Maria, Calif.
2 55 Mariners Sam Carlson RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2 56 Astros Corbin Martin RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2 57 Tigers Rey Rivera OF Chipola (Fla.) JC
2 58 Giants Jacob Gonzalez 3B Chaparral HS, Scottsdale, Ariz.
2 59 Mets Mark Vientos 3B AUTO CONFIRMED
2 60 Orioles Adam Hall SS A.B. Lucas SS, London, Ont.
2 61 Blue Jays Hagen Danner C AUTO CONFIRMED
2 62 Dodgers Morgan Cooper RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2 63 Red Sox Cole Brannen OF AUTO CONFIRMED
2 64 Indians Quentin Holmes OF AUTO CONFIRMED
2 65 Nationals Wil Crowe RHP South Carolina
2 66 Rangers Hans Crouse RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2 67 Cubs Cory Abbott RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2.5 68 Diamondbacks Daulton Varsho C Wisconsin-Milwaukee
2.5 69 Padres Blake Hunt C AUTO CONFIRMED
2.5 70 Rockies Tommy Doyle RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2.5 71 Indians Tyler Freeman SS Etiwanda HS, Rancho Cucamonga, CA
2.5 72 Pirates Conner Uselton OF Southmoore HS, Oklahoma City
2.5 73 Royals Evan Steele LHP Chipola (Fla.) JC
2.5 74 Orioles Zac Lowther LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
2.5 75 Astros J.J. Matijevic 2B AUTO CONFIRMED
3 76 Twins Blayne Enlow RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
3 77 Reds Jacob Heatherly LHP Cullman (Ala.) HS
3 78 Padres Mason House OF Whitehouse (Texas) HS
3 79 Rays Taylor Walls SS AUTO CONFIRMED
3 80 Braves Freddy Tarnok RHP Riverview (Fla.) HS
3 81 Athletics Nick Allen SS Parker School, San Diego
3 82 Diamondbacks Matt Tabor RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
3 83 Phillies Connor Seabold RHP Cal State Fullerton
3 84 Brewers K.J. Harrison C Oregon State
3 85 Angels Jacob Pearson OF AUTO CONFIRMED
3 86 Rockies Will Gaddis RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
3 87 White Sox Luis Gonzalez OF AUTO CONFIRMED
3 88 Pirates Dylan Busby 3B AUTO CONFIRMED
3 89 Marlins Riley Mahan 2B AUTO CONFIRMED
3 90 Royals Daniel Tillo LHP Iowa Western JC
3 91 Astros Tyler Ivey RHP Grayson (Texas) JC
3 92 Yankees Trevor Stephan RHP Arkansas
3 93 Mariners Wyatt Mills RHP Gonzaga
3 94 Cardinals Scott Hurst OF Cal State Fullerton
3 95 Tigers Joey Morgan C AUTO CONFIRMED
3 96 Giants Seth Corry LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
3 97 Mets Quinn Brodey OF AUTO CONFIRMED
3 98 Orioles Michael Baumann RHP Jacksonville
3 99 Blue Jays Riley Adams C San Diego
3 100 Dodgers Connor Wong C AUTO CONFIRMED
3 101 Red Sox Brett Netzer 2B AUTO CONFIRMED
3 102 Indians Johnathan Rodriguez OF Beltran Baseball Academy, Florida, P.R.
3 103 Nationals Nick Raquet LHP William & Mary
3 104 Rangers Matt Whatley C Oral Roberts
3 105 Cubs Keegan Thompson RHP Auburn
4 106 Twins Charlie Barnes LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
4 107 Reds Cash Case SS AUTO CONFIRMED
4 108 Padres Sam Keating RHP Canterbury HS, Fort Myers, Fla.
4 109 Rays Drew Strotman RHP St. Mary's
4 110 Braves Troy Bacon RHP Santa Fe (Fla.) JC
4 111 Athletics Will Toffey 3B Vanderbilt
4 112 Diamondbacks Harrison Francis RHP Chiles HS, Tallahassee, Fla.
4 113 Phillies Jake Scheiner 3B Houston
4 114 Brewers Brendan Murphy LHP AUTO CONFIRMED
4 115 Angels John Swanda RHP Roosevelt HS, Des Moines
4 116 Rockies Pearson McMahan RHP St. Johns River State (Fla.) JC
4 117 White Sox Lincoln Henzman RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
4 118 Pirates Jason Delay C Vanderbilt
4 119 Marlins Colton Hock RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
4 120 Royals Michael Gigliotti OF Lipscomb
4 121 Astros Peter Solomon RHP AUTO CONFIRMED
4 122 Yankees Canaan Smith OF Rockwall-Heath HS, Rockwall, Texas
4 123 Mariners Seth Elledge RHP Dallas Baptist
4 124 Cardinals Kramer Robertson SS Louisiana State
4 125 Tigers Gio Arriera RHP Palm Beach State (Fla.) JC
4 126 Giants Garrett Cave RHP Tampa
4 127 Mets Tony Dibrell RHP Kennesaw State
4 129 Blue Jays Kevin Smith SS AUTO CONFIRMED
4 130 Dodgers James Marinan RHP Park Vista HS, Lake Worth, Fla.
4 131 Red Sox Jake Thompson RHP Oregon State
4 132 Indians Ernie Clement 2B AUTO CONFIRMED
4 133 Nationals Cole Freeman 2B Louisiana State
4 134 Rangers Ryan Dease RHP The Next Level Academy, Altamonte Springs, Fla.
4 135 Cubs Erich Uelmen RHP Cal Poly

Zach Kirtley (5th round, Cardinals) AUTO CONFIRMED
Kade McClure (6th round, White Sox) AUTO CONFIRMED
Kacy Clemens (8th round, Blue Jays) AUTO CONFIRMED

[wphill02]

Originally Posted by lisu

Round
1 24
1S 5
2 19
CBB 4
3 13
4 8
5 1
6 1
8 1

Thanks!

[Jaypers]

Just finished my star chart for Bowman Draft.

Five stars = 5
Four stars = 15
Three stars = 27
Two stars = 18
One star = 11

I give this a B. Weaker crop than usual, and a few notable omissions. Most notably, no All America Autos (which were clearly shown on the solicitations). And guess whose visage was shown - Carter Kieboom, the invisible man.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Yep, it's unfortunate. The one thing I was most interested in was how many autos were on the checklist. 75 is a crazy number. But I think we had to expect a crazy high number, after how successful 2017 has been for products.

At 24 Autos per Jumbo case, lots of color, hot packs/boxes (Black refractors), sets, singles, chromes, variations, some box toppers, etc.....it's still going to be safe with 75 autos....ideal, no....safe, I think so. imo

[Jaypers]

Guys - it's 76 autos.

[speedyjg13]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Guys - it's 76 autos.

Someone help me out here... only following 17 Draft because the Angels had a high 1st round pick... anyways, typically how large/small are auto checklists for a draft product?

[lisu]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Just finished my star chart for Bowman Draft.

Five stars = 5
Four stars = 15
Three stars = 27
Two stars = 18
One star = 11

I give this a B. Weaker crop than usual, and a few notable omissions. Most notably, no All America Autos (which were clearly shown on the solicitations). And guess whose visage was shown - Carter Kieboom, the invisible man.

Agreed - the only positive thing that I saw was that they could have included even more pitchers. Scary thought, huh?

[Jaypers]

Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Someone help me out here... only following 17 Draft because the Angels had a high 1st round pick... anyways, typically how large/small are auto checklists for a draft product?

There were 56 last year, 60 the year before that.

[Jaypers]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Someone explain to me why McKay has been duplicated throughout, with different prefix lettering?

Originally Posted by Reverend Ghost

Position variations?


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If this is the beginning of Topps giving two-way players two cards each, this could very well mean guys like Greene and Ohtani will get two each as well in '18 Bowman.

Don't know about you guys, but I don't like that at all.

[NickM]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

If this is the beginning of Topps giving two-way players two cards each, this could very well mean guys like Greene and Ohtani will get two each as well in '18 Bowman.

Don't know about you guys, but I don't like that at all.

If one is an SP variation, this is not a bad thing. If they're separate card numbers, I agree with you.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

At 24 Autos per Jumbo case, lots of color, hot packs/boxes (Black refractors), sets, singles, chromes, variations, some box toppers, etc.....it's still going to be safe with 75 autos....ideal, no....safe, I think so. imo

Yeah, should be solid. All depends on the price you paid, really.

[bd3d86]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Yeah, should be solid. All depends on the price you paid, really.

What is a solid price for a Jumbo case? I think I locked in at $900 at my LCS...

[hairysasquatch]

Originally Posted by bd3d86

What is a solid price for a Jumbo case? I think I locked in at $900 at my LCS...

That's pretty good. Could be worse.

[sigmachi]

Originally Posted by bd3d86

What is a solid price for a Jumbo case? I think I locked in at $900 at my LCS...

I paid $950 dlvd on eBay last week but I got $72 back in eBay Bucks.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by bd3d86

What is a solid price for a Jumbo case? I think I locked in at $900 at my LCS...

That's solid....$920 on my end

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by Jaypers

Just finished my star chart for Bowman Draft.

Five stars = 5
Four stars = 15
Three stars = 27
Two stars = 18
One star = 11

I give this a B. Weaker crop than usual, and a few notable omissions. Most notably, no All America Autos (which were clearly shown on the solicitations). And guess whose visage was shown - Carter Kieboom, the invisible man.

What is the price range for each of the stars?

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

The odds on color are the same, no matter how many players. The more players, the more cases produced.

Now adding new colors helps (I haven't looked at that), but the sheer number of players does not equate to more color by the box/case.

That would mean a 35% increase in production, which is crazy for a product like this. 2017 baseball was hot because of Judge\Bellinger and of course we werent expecting them to be in here. Nothing else has happened to have justified this increase.

I think you are right...but Im still hoping that somehow production wont actually be up 35%. That would mean guys signing less base cards of course.

And lastly, who ordered all this product if it is up 35%???

[lisu]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

That would mean a 35% increase in production, which is crazy for a product like this. 2017 baseball was hot because of Judge\Bellinger and of course we werent expecting them to be in here. Nothing else has happened to have justified this increase.

I think you are right...but Im still hoping that somehow production wont actually be up 35%. That would mean guys signing less base cards of course.

And lastly, who ordered all this product if it is up 35%???

group breakers. My allocation got cut.

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by lisu

group breakers. My allocation got cut.

Ok, but again why would this year be any different than last? There was no real selling point for group breakers to suddenly go heavier this year. I'm just trying to wrap my head around 35%. Thats ALOT for a product like this.

[lisu]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

Ok, but again why would this year be any different than last? There was no real selling point for group breakers to suddenly go heavier this year. I'm just trying to wrap my head around 35%. Thats ALOT for a product like this.

Success and profit for group breakers from 2017 Bowman and 2017 Bowman Chrome. Even though BC was rough for most rippers, it is still pretty profitable for GB'ers. They are turning those profits into more pre-orders for 2017 Bowman Draft.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by lisu

Success and profit for group breakers from 2017 Bowman and 2017 Bowman Chrome. Even though BC was rough for most rippers, it is still pretty profitable for GB'ers. They are turning those profits into more pre-orders for 2017 Bowman Draft.

I would argue the "pretty profitable".

Most breakers made a killing on Bowman Chrome--especially on their initial allocations, which they most likely got pretty cheap. And like you said, they are most definitely buying a bunch of Draft (given their success with Chrome). And again, as you already said, that is what makes up the bulk of the higher demand this year.

[PDCCollectibles]

Originally Posted by auctionjmm

That would mean a 35% increase in production, which is crazy for a product like this. 2017 baseball was hot because of Judge\Bellinger and of course we werent expecting them to be in here. Nothing else has happened to have justified this increase.

I think you are right...but Im still hoping that somehow production wont actually be up 35%. That would mean guys signing less base cards of course.

And lastly, who ordered all this product if it is up 35%???

Me too, that's high....If you told me 2018 Bowman was up 35%, that I may believe, but 35% for Draft is a very very high number.

[Griffinscards]

Originally Posted by PDCCollectibles

Me too, that's high....If you told me 2018 Bowman was up 35%, that I may believe, but 35% for Draft is a very very high number.

Case breakers? Remember how many 2/5/10/15 case breaks we were seeing for 2017 bowman chrome? Also I believe it was the 1 SJ case for 3 J cases ordered for draft and since the deadline for distributor pre-orders was in Late-July I think that means that they were ordering this before they calculated the print run obviously. I'm guessing that means people ordered tons of Jumbo to get a decent amount of Super-Jumbo. Could this mean that the prices on Jumbo fall and Super Jumbo goes up?

[fenwaykid]

Honestly group breaking at this point is a huge cash cow. I’m seeing people making upwards of 300-500 a case. Why aren’t we all running group breaks?

[14tahunts]

For those that think Riley Mahan is a low-level talent. PM me for a place to send his autos.