2022 NBA Playoffs Thread

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Good explanation of how the move couldn’t have caused an injury.

Yep...anybody with a basic knowledge of physics could figure out that there is no way that Poole's actions could have exerted anywhere near the force necessary to cause injury.

Poole was off-balance and lunging and made contact with Ja for a microsecond....the force he exerted on Ja's knee would have been negligible....a fraction of the force exerted on the knee on any hard cut or landing.

As Khal Drogo and "nucks for cup" noted, it is much more likely that Ja injured/re-injured his knee on his awkward close-out on Klay at the beginning of the 3rd quarter, which resulted in a hard, off-balance landing and left Ja limping for a bit afterwards.

[Kingofkings1281]

"Me personally, I've been through a tough knee injury," Thompson said. "And I don't think there's any malicious intent from Jordan. I don't even think he's [Poole] strong enough to affect somebody's knee. But we're not out there trying to hurt people or trying to club people in the back of the head on a fast break. We play the game the right way, and I'm going to have his back."

That’s my favorite quote so far. “My teammate isn’t strong enough to hurt anyone and we play the game like good little boys. Hey! Remember what happened to GP? Let’s talk more about that and those dirty underhanded Grizzlies”.

[bulljh]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Warriors may be the luckiest franchise in all of sports. This makes like the 20th series where the opposing team is missing at least one star.

I could be wrong here, but don’t the playoffs start at the end of the regular season where teams and players are dealing with injuries? Wasn’t Curry out for like a month prior to the playoffs? I’m pretty sure that the Warriors have dealt with there fair share of playoff injuries (Steph, KD, and Klay).

You cry a lot. I think you’re sad because Klay and Steph still have a chance to tie LeFlop in chips.

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by bulljh

I could be wrong here, but don’t the playoffs start at the end of the regular season where teams and players are dealing with injuries? Wasn’t Curry out for like a month prior to the playoffs? I’m pretty sure that the Warriors have dealt with there fair share of playoff injuries (Steph, KD, and Klay).

You cry a lot. I think you’re sad because Klay and Steph still have a chance to tie LeFlop in chips.

We could certainly go into the injuries affecting both sides and determine which was more momentous. With the Curry-Durant Warriors, when healthy, there was really no question about their winning any playoff series with one exception: the 2018 Rockets. And guess what, the Rockets came up short almost directly because of CP3's game-6 injury. I guess there's a question of whether you should give players some amount of credit for health, but if in effect end up giving the opposing team credit if it wins against an injury-depleted opponent, that credit should come with the caveat that the opponent was injured. As for the Warriors-Cavs Finals encounters in '17-18, I can't really say that they were competitive. I'd say it was more like the Seahawks-Broncos (Sherman/Legion of Boom-Manning) Super Bowl, only back-to-back because the NBA is built more in that direction. (It's not like how GOAT Brady threw 4 TDs on them in the next SB and NWE threw better defense at the 'hawks.) The '19 series against TOR wasn't going to be competitive, either, until KD went down. Put a decent supporting cast out there with a healthy twosome of Curry & KD-level players at that stage of their careers, and of course they'll win every Finals by a mile, simple math. Unless they have a healthy combination of Harden & CP3-level players and get some credit/luck through injury there. They got the bad side of luck in '19 and also the good side of luck in '15 with KLove and Kyrie out. And then that nasty dirty Zaza move on Kawhi in '17 so dementedly egregious that it forced NBA rules changes. So on the whole it still seems to favor these Golden State bastards.

(strain this time is High Society = Jet Fuel Gelato x Biscotti)

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

We could certainly go into the injuries affecting both sides and determine which was more momentous. With the Curry-Durant Warriors, when healthy, there was really no question about their winning any playoff series with one exception: the 2018 Rockets. And guess what, the Rockets came up short almost directly because of CP3's game-6 injury. I guess there's a question of whether you should give players some amount of credit for health, but if in effect end up giving the opposing team credit if it wins against an injury-depleted opponent, that credit should come with the caveat that the opponent was injured. As for the Warriors-Cavs Finals encounters in '17-18, I can't really say that they were competitive. I'd say it was more like the Seahawks-Broncos (Sherman/Legion of Boom-Manning) Super Bowl, only back-to-back because the NBA is built more in that direction. (It's not like how GOAT Brady threw 4 TDs on them in the next SB and NWE threw better defense at the 'hawks.) The '19 series against TOR wasn't going to be competitive, either, until KD went down. Put a decent supporting cast out there with a healthy twosome of Curry & KD-level players at that stage of their careers, and of course they'll win every Finals by a mile, simple math. Unless they have a healthy combination of Harden & CP3-level players and get some credit/luck through injury there. They got the bad side of luck in '19 and also the good side of luck in '15 with KLove and Kyrie out. And then that nasty dirty Zaza move on Kawhi in '17 so dementedly egregious that it forced NBA rules changes. So on the whole it still seems to favor these Golden State bastards.

(strain this time is High Society = Jet Fuel Gelato x Biscotti)

somehow only now do I see the rough fairness of KD going down in '19 given what GSW did to Kawhi in '17. (As it is, though, the GSW were not far from pulling off a 5-peat from '15-19. It would spell dynasty, but who would get the most credit and/or luck-points?) So maybe it would only also be fair if PHO this year benefits from a key GSW injury to make up for their '18 luck?

As for the number of chips certain players have won, clearly the dominant player of the last decade by just about a mile was LeBron, and it was a yearly question: How does Bron win the title this year, or how do we keep Bron from winning the title this year? The GSW seemed to really earn a lot of luck in '17 by finding the most successful formula by far: acquire a KD-level talent in his prime to complement a Curry-level talent in his prime and not get hit with too-big salary cap penalties. But that formula depended so much on player health as the '19 Finals showed, and the '18 WCF showed. (I suppose that the '18 Rockets were also well-equipped to take out Bron's Cavs, as long as the two key pieces Beard&CP3 are healthy...)

[BGT Masters]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Yep...anybody with a basic knowledge of physics could figure out that there is no way that Poole's actions could have exerted anywhere near the force necessary to cause injury.

Poole was off-balance and lunging and made contact with Ja for a microsecond....the force he exerted on Ja's knee would have been negligible....a fraction of the force exerted on the knee on any hard cut or landing.

As Khal Drogo and "nucks for cup" noted, it is much more likely that Ja injured/re-injured his knee on his awkward close-out on Klay at the beginning of the 3rd quarter, which resulted in a hard, off-balance landing and left Ja limping for a bit afterwards.

This is all under the assumption his knee was not already injured to some extent. An already injured/unstable knee is very easily re/further injured. It makes even more sense after seeing someone post about him hurting it earlier on the close out. If he wasn't trying to injure Ja than what exactly was he trying to do? He damn sure wasn't going after the ball.

To anyone who has actually dealt with a knee injury what Poole did can easily cause injury. Regardless of Poole's intent its a bad look. Either way I hope Ja is fine and its something minor.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

This is all under the assumption his knee was not already injured to some extent. An already injured/unstable knee is very easily re/further injured. It makes even more sense after seeing someone post about him hurting it earlier on the close out. If he wasn't trying to injure Ja than what exactly was he trying to do? He damn sure wasn't going after the ball.

To anyone who has actually dealt with a knee injury what Poole did can easily cause injury. Regardless of Poole's intent its a bad look. Either way I hope Ja is fine and its something minor.

When you play it at regular speed, you can see clearly that Poole was going for the ball. Everything looks worse frame by frame.

[drobfan8]

I think Phoenix and especially Chris Paul will play a lot better.

Not sure who wins though. I give Dallas a good chance but they'll have to play great.

Should be a great couple of games.

[Bronconation24]

Luka just needs to play ball sometimes. He be doing way too much theatrics

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by Bronconation24

Luka just needs to play ball sometimes. He be doing way too much theatrics

I think he was more mad that Crowder threw him down. It seems like those two don't like each other

[drobfan8]

Nice physicality to this game. Players will need to adjust.

That was not a charge on Booker but it was a make up call. Rough on Booker though.

[tjforce]

Uhh oh.. Mavs showed up to play today

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Nice physicality to this game. Players will need to adjust.

That was not a charge on Booker but it was a make up call. Rough on Booker though.

Kind of how I took it as well. The refs realized they missed the Crowder foul.

[Scottish Punk]

That wasn't a tech.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by tjforce

Uhh oh.. Mavs showed up to play today

Notice how it's not just Luka dribbling for 22 seconds and then making a play? Weird.

[Onepocketj]

Uh oh. Crowder hurt

[tjforce]

Uhh ohh Suns!

[drobfan8]

Ughhh just like that Luka does one of those dumb plays trying to draw a foul. Get it out of your game brother.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Uh oh. Crowder hurt

Karma is a bitch.

I’m disappointed that this looks like another game where the refs want it to be about them. These calls have been bad. Both ways.

[pingbling23]

Originally Posted by Bronconation24

Luka just needs to play ball sometimes. He be doing way too much theatrics

Going for an Oscar tonight.

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by bulljh

I could be wrong here, but don’t the playoffs start at the end of the regular season where teams and players are dealing with injuries? Wasn’t Curry out for like a month prior to the playoffs? I’m pretty sure that the Warriors have dealt with there fair share of playoff injuries (Steph, KD, and Klay).

You cry a lot. I think you’re sad because Klay and Steph still have a chance to tie LeFlop in chips.

I scrolled right past that post but saw it now that you quoted it.
Of course it was ping. Of course.


This game seems chippy so far, the refs trying to impose some order but there seem to have been a few questionable calls already.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Notice how it's not just Luka dribbling for 22 seconds and then making a play? Weird.

I see it but my eyes can't believe it.

Who coulda foreseen such a thing!?!?!?

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by pingbling23

Going for an Oscar tonight.

It is a tough watch with the head and arm flailing, flopping, and jumping into guys.

[k13]

NBA is so predictable with home teams winning.

[hairyangryfella]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClutchPoi...91599559860224

Looks like Ayton puts force into him, let alone Crowder's extracurricular activities...