WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[jmarascojr]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

so Wyatt is a Vampire now ? lol

Worst match of the night by far. Sad that they have to make up for his wrestling skills with cheesy special effects.

Worst match of the night, literally the only match of the night up to that point haha.

The wrestling was bad, the match concept was “better” than I expected, Bray’s body paint and eyes were cool.

I like the Bray character, I don’t watch him for five star matches.
I’d rather watch his storyline than Reigns the last 2-3 years, but that’s just me.

[Jolten Joe]

Which tells you how bad the rest of the card can be and still not be that bad

[RedLabelRecords]

This feels like a Raw episode.

[ensbergcollecto]

Wow. So surprised. The second Rhodes got hurt 9 months ago every knew he would come back and win the rumble. I have grown to hate how predictable it has become ever since the Roman reigns angle.

[tnvolfan16]

I dunno, this numnuts they have out here wasting our time singing looks a little like a fat kid rock

[Jolten Joe]

Now that is how you end a PPV

[bblair_2002]

Man I miss Pat McAfee on commentary. Best part was during the Women's match and he was doing the Street Fighter schtick when Zelina and Xia Li were fighting on the ring apron.

[1992UDFootball]

The Bloodline storyline has been the best thing WWE has done in a very long time. The match itself was good, but the postmatch stuff was phenomenal.

Ripley winning and Asuka returning was great, and overall this years rumble was much, much better than last year's, but the rest was pretty forgettable.

[JustinVerlander07]

I don't think it's exaggeration to say the bloodline ending to the Rumble is perhaps the best thing on TV in a really, really long time. Holy cow. How can you not be totally captivated? The beatdown on Owens, the emotion from Sami, to then hit Roman with the chair. Roman's reaction (!), the beatdown by Jimmy/Solo. Roman's hurt to Sami hitting him. Jey walking out. This storyline. WOW. Bravo to all involved because this is a money making story.

[no10pin]

The ending was great, definitely an awesome way to cap that story and kick-off the next one.

Watching the press conference for the first time ever, and it's...odd. They aren't really in character most of the time, but they kinda are sometimes.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I don't think it's exaggeration to say the bloodline ending to the Rumble is perhaps the best thing on TV in a really, really long time. Holy cow. How can you not be totally captivated? The beatdown on Owens, the emotion from Sami, to then hit Roman with the chair. Roman's reaction (!), the beatdown by Jimmy/Solo. Roman's hurt to Sami hitting him. Jey walking out. This storyline. WOW. Bravo to all involved because this is a money making story.

Honestly this might be the best story arc in WWE history. Hyperbole or not I'm just totally blown away by how well done it's all been and how it peaked tonight. I cannot wait to see where it's going.

[dbackschamp2001]

I loved the men's rumble match, but it would've been hilarious, if after Cody jumped over the top rope, if Rey would've been standing in the ring.

[RedLabelRecords]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

Now that is how you end a PPV

It was too predictable.

[dbackschamp2001]

Originally Posted by RedLabelRecords

It was too predictable.

Yeah, Hacksaw Jim Duggan should've came out and farted on a baked potato instead.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by RedLabelRecords

It was too predictable.

If you don’t find the ending amazing you might as well never watch again. 50 years from now that will still be a high point in WWE history.


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[BestRCs]

Originally Posted by RedLabelRecords

It was too predictable.

And it didn't matter. Everyone sold it well and played their parts.

Lot of cool little details. I love how the long hair Uso who didn't like Zayn was the first to jump in on Zayn... Roman had perfect cadence and tone up to the chari shot. And the Uso who left was all torn cuz he liked him. The storyline drama was well done and the tension was peak right here.

Need more of this. Hopefully there is more to the story too though.

[BayAreaChris]

Anyone know what happens after the telecast is over?

Curious if Sami and KO just pop up and walk out?

[duwal]

Originally Posted by BayAreaChris

Anyone know what happens after the telecast is over?

Curious if Sami and KO just pop up and walk out?

[BayAreaChris]

Originally Posted by duwal

Thanks!

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by RedLabelRecords

I wonder why they’d start with the mens rumble. Poor choice. I can tune out now.

As was already stated, the outcome was predictable. No sense in waiting on it. Everyone knew, so use it to get the crowd hot. If you know anything about booking, it's that you want your first match to get the crowd going. Look at the card, was there any other match that could have done that? Maybe the women's, but they needed the Judgment Day stuff to happen before the women's RR.

The men's RR wasn't all that great. Outside of Booker, no surprise entrants, nobody from NXT. Some decent storytelling throughout. Kofi must have got hurt bad because they clearly had a spot set up with the chair and Woods being there, but they didn't follow through.

The Pitch Dark match wasn't bad, but it definitely feels like the match got cut on time. I mean, Bray threw the toolbox into the ring and never used it. The ending was cinematically cool.

The women's championship match was whatever, really. Interested to see what happens with Bliss.

The women's RR was pretty good. I mean, I enjoyed it. As the match progressed, you could see that Ripley was going to win. Also, who had Asuka going XXX for her entrance on their Bingo card? At least, that's what I thought when she took off the mask, but I can be a pretty big perv for Asuka, not gonna lie.

The ME was great storytelling and after the match was excellent storytelling. I had to go back and listen to the pop for Sami at least a dozen times. Jey has been on point for the entirety of this story and I believe he should be the one to defeat Roman. It'll be Cody, of course, but if I were Cody I wouldn't want it because he's going to be playing second fiddle now to the Bloodline story. We'll see what WWE does to make that match bigger than anything Jey and Sami are doing at WM.

Overall, without the aftermath of the ME, the show as okay. The aftermath made the show special. I'd give it an A- just on the strength of the ending. Without the ending, I'd give it a C+. That's how good, to me, that ending was.

EDIT: I wanted to throw out there that it wouldn't surprise me if we find out that Jey didn't leave because he was turning his back on the Bloodline, but rather he was ashamed that he defended Sami and the shame propelled him to leave.

[Jolten Joe]

Will be interesting to see how they interject Rhodes into the storyline leading up to WM39. As far as Jey goes yes they will find a way to explain his walking out so he stays in the bloodline for now because in the end he is still half of the Tag Champs and they aren't just going to forfeit the titles.

My guess is somehow Reigns barely escapes the Elimination Chamber and we move on to Sami/Owens vs. USO's for the tag titles at WM where Jey turns on Jimmy and costs them the titles. They can run the Jey vs. Jimmy storyline throughout the summer and have the big Rock/Reigns showdown at SummerSlam if Rock wants to do it. That way no belts are on the line so you don't have to figure out how to get the belt off Rock quickly afterwards because it will be a 1 and done deal he's not sticking around long term.

[Chiefnocahoma]

Wyatt needs to get in wrestling shape. Thought the post match stuff with the bloodline was great. Fans still audibly swearing at Roman was chefs kiss.

[packman80]

Originally Posted by Chiefnocahoma

Wyatt needs to get in wrestling shape. Thought the post match stuff with the bloodline was great. Fans still audibly swearing at Roman was chefs kiss.

I don't know if it is much being in shape that he has no in ring skills. Seems he has like 5 moves he can do. I know people love his promos but even that is boring as he keeps going back to the same promo he was doing before he left the WWE. Seems at some point he is will become the feind again.

[scfa1975]

I personally though the mens portion or the RR was a joke. Why did the have multiple tag teams in there. You had Ricochet and Stroman but no Imperium? They are going up against each other for the title shot...why not have Imperium in ther and just them and Gunther at one point standing there. They could have done better then Booker T....where was Dexter Lumis....now all you ever see him in the background holding an ax....Id rather they go back to him and the Hartwell love angle. Where was Solo Sikoa...I just think the mens side could have done much better with other participants.

And no "Zack Ryder" but we get Chelsea Green? At least the womens side had some unexpected entrants

As for the bloodline....now it gets good...hopefully next we see Heyman turn on Roman

[cdub6238]

Have my daughter this weekend, so only watching it bit by bit, just finished the Men's RR...

Originally Posted by packman80

Men's RR first thing up? What garbage is that? Sorry the Women's RR should have went first as you have maybe what 10 at best good women's wrestlers so will have 20 filler spots just to be in the ring.

Only thing I guess is they wanted to keep the crowd hot for the rest of the show, technically I've already seen the ending of the PPV since instead of cutting the feed and "replaying" at a set time I kept jumping in at the ME and the "press conference" garbage...so once I saw the ending it only made sense for the Men's RR to go 1st

Originally Posted by packman80

So surprise entries this year Booker T and Logan Paul? Meh.

I guess technically Edge was a surprise. I mean he's on the roster, and was coming back eventually but I'll touch on that in a bit. Same with Lesnar..technically he was back on RAW but didn't hear many think hed be in the Rumble

Originally Posted by packman80

Well shocking no one Cody wins. Though surprised no one from Bloodline in the RR.

Originally Posted by Master Shake

Predictable outcome.

Yeah I wasn't to thrilled with the execution. Everyone "figured" he was going to win...and they even already announced he was in the match...so once he came out at 30 I was like meh that was a dumb decision imo

Originally Posted by therealcjc33

I’m a little aggravated that there were only 29 participants (Rey never came out).

It was a little weird to me that they never mentioned this again...or even showed Rey beaten down or something to explain it...his number came up, nothing....then Dom came out next with his mask on, so the intent was there....BUT...no mention or proof of anything after

I kept waiting after Dom was down to the last few for something, but nah they just let Cody toss him nonchalantly

Even more so...what happened with the Kofi spot? His foot was still on the chair, and I assume it was planned as commentary mentioned it, even telling him to stay down when Brock came out...and then nothing, unless I missed it lol

Overall match thoughts...

Weird choice to start with a rehashed Gunther/Sheamus but meh

Miz exchange with Gunther/Sheamus was A+ imo

Then a bunch of meh, I mean decent in ring just nothing exciting...

Til the place exploded for Brock...

And then...he just gets dumped pretty easily by Lashley apparently keeping this thing drawn out for more rematches

Then, to only waste that by having Lashley eliminated by Rollins not even 5 minutes later...umm

Corbin was also a waste, although hilarious getting destroyed by Brock on his way out

Bunch more meh...Judgement Day happened and pretty much wasted a Montez Ford appearance

Then Edge...which was cool but we knew what the point was

Omos out at #26 only to be eliminated basically immediately after by Braun at #27 happened...kool

Logan Paul was interesting choice but didn't hate it. Spot with Ricochet was pretty cool. Not sure I understand him eliminating Rollins unless that's a WM match..

Still think it was a letdown and no brainer with Cody at #30. There was really no intrigue of having to fight through people or last a long time etc...once it was him and Gunther though it was very solid.

This match, if he wasn't already, firmly established Gunther as a top dominant force going forward