WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 1646

thenightman · 02-01-2023, 09:41 AM

Dom is terrible on the mic because he's 25 and only been a character for a few years. I love the character, I love how over the top his character is after spending one night in jail. I can look past the poor promos because he's still learning. The fact is that he's all in on this character and that's a great thing to see. He'll get better.

mtr · 02-01-2023, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thenightman

Dom is terrible on the mic because he's 25 and only been a character for a few years. I love the character, I love how over the top his character is after spending one night in jail. I can look past the poor promos because he's still learning. The fact is that he's all in on this character and that's a great thing to see. He'll get better.

He should be learning in NXT. His gimmick is actually decent but at the moment he's not good enough make it work. The only reason he's on the main roster is because he's Rey's son.

thenightman · 02-01-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mtr

He should be learning in NXT. His gimmick is actually decent but at the moment he's not good enough make it work. The only reason he's on the main roster is because he's Rey's son.

In your mind what does "good enough to make it work" look like? He's playing a delusional young kid who thinks he's some tough guy because he's been in "prison". Every time I watch him that's what he comes off as. I don't need an Oscar worth performance to be into this character. He portrays him exactly as he should. Delusional, thinking he's worthy of the spotlight, when it's clearly apparent that he isn't.

JustinVerlander07 · 02-01-2023, 08:27 PM

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In your mind what does "good enough to make it work" look like? He's playing a delusional young kid who thinks he's some tough guy because he's been in "prison". Every time I watch him that's what he comes off as. I don't need an Oscar worth performance to be into this character. He portrays him exactly as he should. Delusional, thinking he's worthy of the spotlight, when it's clearly apparent that he isn't.

Yea, he's actually playing a heel quite well. You're not suppose to like him, you're suppose to want him to get beat up. I don't see him getting go away heat as much as 'someone beat this kid up heat'. PERFECT. (I'm still not a fan of his work, but he's playing the character well)

thenightman · 02-01-2023, 08:47 PM

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Yea, he's actually playing a heel quite well. You're not suppose to like him, you're suppose to want him to get beat up. I don't see him getting go away heat as much as 'someone beat this kid up heat'. PERFECT. (I'm still not a fan of his work, but he's playing the character well)

100%. Is he the best on the mic? No. Are his matches 4 or 5 stars? No. Do you want to see him get his butt kicked? Absolutely!

He's doing exactly what he needs to do. In time, the other two will get better.

indyguy · 02-02-2023, 11:08 AM

I couldn't care less if he gets his butt kicked in the ring. He is such an unenjoyable, forgettable character that I turn the channel if he is on. Even most heels have something that is intriguing about them. He has nothing that sparks any interest for me.

If I'm going to spend my time watching, I want some sort of payoff. Give me a good, solid match. Right now, he doesn't.

JustinVerlander07 · 02-02-2023, 04:01 PM

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I couldn't care less if he gets his butt kicked in the ring. He is such an unenjoyable, forgettable character that I turn the channel if he is on. Even most heels have something that is intriguing about them. He has nothing that sparks any interest for me.

If I'm going to spend my time watching, I want some sort of payoff. Give me a good, solid match. Right now, he doesn't.

His prison shtick is pretty funny. It's intentionally bad and annoying.

fulltritty · 02-03-2023, 06:09 AM

I'm looking forward to Smackdown tonight to see what the Tribal Chief does.

indyguy · 02-03-2023, 09:56 AM

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His prison shtick is pretty funny. It's intentionally bad and annoying.

I'll take a look. I think last I had watched him was before Halloween.

thenightman · 02-03-2023, 10:55 AM

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I'll take a look. I think last I had watched him was before Halloween.

The last time you watched him was before he went to jail? You got to at least look that up on YT before you do. Watch these in order and remember that he was in jail for 1 night, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsRq...ab_channel=WWE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5M...ab_channel=WWE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFmF...ab_channel=WWE

poomplavk · 02-03-2023, 12:16 PM

Yeah I love his jail gimmick...honestly IMO one of the highlights of raw I look forward to.

He had an interview Royal Rumble weekend in Spanish but he was in character the whole time. The interviewer was talking to him in joking matter about jail and Dom answered everything with a straight face that he's been through a lot in jail...having to sleep on the cold floors and how not many people could go through what he did... hilarious interview.

Cardboard Dawg · 02-03-2023, 09:41 PM

Bloodline is the best story in a LONG, LONG time

Jolten Joe · 02-03-2023, 10:45 PM

^^^^ 99% of the time yes but then you have nights like tonight where it's hyped to oblivion to get people to tune in so they can boast about the huge ratings and they lay an egg. Tonight honestly was probably one of the worst nights of this entire storyline.

JustinVerlander07 · 02-03-2023, 10:49 PM

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^^^^ 99% of the time yes but then you have nights like tonight where it's hyped to oblivion to get people to tune in so they can boast about the huge ratings and they lay an egg. Tonight honestly was probably one of the worst nights of this entire storyline.

It's a story, why are they going to give you everything? Tonight's bloodline stuff was fantastic. The patience level with people is so horrible.

poomplavk · 02-03-2023, 11:01 PM

Overall good show...crowd was meh considering the hype around the show but at they woke up at the end. Bloodline stuff was good and, yeah, they gave us just enough to keep wanting more. Was thinking for a bit that Sami wasn't even gonna show.

But....highlight of the night...

Dom: "I learned this from my cell mate who was a getaway driver!"

I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but that line had me cracking up. He really took advantage and learned a lot one night in prison lol.

Kingofkings1281 · 02-04-2023, 01:31 AM

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Overall good show...crowd was meh considering the hype around the show but at they woke up at the end. Bloodline stuff was good and, yeah, they gave us just enough to keep wanting more. Was thinking for a bit that Sami wasn't even gonna show.

But....highlight of the night...

Dom: "I learned this from my cell mate who was a getaway driver!"

I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but that line had me cracking up. He really took advantage and learned a lot one night in prison lol.

Dom is great. I was in the front row for Raw on Monday and he told me if I kept hitting on Rhea he was going to show me what he learned in prison haha. I went back and forth with both of them a few times. You can tell they enjoy what they do.

thenightman · 02-04-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by poomplavk

Overall good show...crowd was meh considering the hype around the show but at they woke up at the end. Bloodline stuff was good and, yeah, they gave us just enough to keep wanting more. Was thinking for a bit that Sami wasn't even gonna show.

But....highlight of the night...

Dom: "I learned this from my cell mate who was a getaway driver!"

I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but that line had me cracking up. He really took advantage and learned a lot one night in prison lol.

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Dom is great. I was in the front row for Raw on Monday and he told me if I kept hitting on Rhea he was going to show me what he learned in prison haha. I went back and forth with both of them a few times. You can tell they enjoy what they do.

I really want Dom to stick with the prison schtick for a really long time. It's just a perfect example of how a subtle change in a story can have long-term ramifications. Now, I'm not predicting the future with this comparison, but it's like when the Rock started wearing sunglasses and referring to himself as "The People's Champion" all the time. Once he did that he started becoming "The Rock". It was that subtle change that changed everything.

packman80 · 02-04-2023, 11:29 AM

So Sami is just wrestling for the Universal title at EC? If that's the case yeah he wins that and Cody wins at WM and you have the title's split again between two shows.

thenightman · 02-04-2023, 11:31 AM

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So Sami is just wrestling for the Universal title at EC? If that's the case yeah he wins that and Cody wins at WM and you have the title's split again between two shows.

He did challenge Roman for the Undisputed Universal Championship and WWE is promoting it as such as far as I've seen.

poomplavk · 02-04-2023, 11:33 AM

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So Sami is just wrestling for the Universal title at EC? If that's the case yeah he wins that and Cody wins at WM and you have the title's split again between two shows.

As much as I would love for that to happen. He did say undisputed championship so EC is going to be a roller coaster with him losing and KO probably making his return to save him at the end of his best down.

Cardboard Dawg · 02-04-2023, 11:38 PM

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As much as I would love for that to happen. He did say undisputed championship so EC is going to be a roller coaster with him losing and KO probably making his return to save him at the end of his best down.

IDK -- at this point it'd be criminal to not make the WM main event a triple threat. No way this can end at EC

And I found the Bloodline stuff last night enough to keep me hooked in... and honestly, that's the first SmackDown I've watched, from start to end, in a VERY LONG time. I've caught highlights and watched parts, but haven't watched a whole 2 hours in a while.

apb4 · 02-05-2023, 03:52 AM

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So Sami is just wrestling for the Universal title at EC? If that's the case yeah he wins that and Cody wins at WM and you have the title's split again between two shows.

I don't see any chance Sami goes over at EC and takes one of the titles from Roman. I think they are making the wrong call here but it seems to me they want Cody to be the one who beats Reigns and ends the streak. If Sami wins before then that takes a lot of the luster off a Cody win.

If I was them, I would be worried that this turns into a Daniel Bryan situation. Sami appears to be more over with the fans, is there a chance that they turn on Cody after he wins with the belief that Sami should have been the guy? That's certainly a possibility and would provide a major roadblock to Cody being the #1 babyface.

thenightman · 02-05-2023, 09:11 AM

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I don't see any chance Sami goes over at EC and takes one of the titles from Roman. I think they are making the wrong call here but it seems to me they want Cody to be the one who beats Reigns and ends the streak. If Sami wins before then that takes a lot of the luster off a Cody win.

If I was them, I would be worried that this turns into a Daniel Bryan situation. Sami appears to be more over with the fans, is there a chance that they turn on Cody after he wins with the belief that Sami should have been the guy? That's certainly a possibility and would provide a major roadblock to Cody being the #1 babyface.

To know for certain, they need Cody and Roman to interact, sooner rather than later. If the fans crap on Cody then WWE will know what they need to do.

tomahawk · 02-05-2023, 09:31 AM

Anyone catch NXT Vengeance Day last night? I thought it was pretty solid, actually. Wes Lee vs. Dijak was a complete barn burner opener.

fulltritty · 02-05-2023, 03:49 PM

Smackdown wasn't as good as I expected. I was OK with the short Bloodline promo. They have to sucker you in for more.

The car race between Dom and Rey was pretty cool; especially the trash talk while driving.

02-01-2023, 09:41 AM	#41126
thenightman Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 6,724	Dom is terrible on the mic because he's 25 and only been a character for a few years. I love the character, I love how over the top his character is after spending one night in jail. I can look past the poor promos because he's still learning. The fact is that he's all in on this character and that's a great thing to see. He'll get better.

02-02-2023, 11:08 AM	#41131
indyguy Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 8,512 arndru indyguyat	I couldn't care less if he gets his butt kicked in the ring. He is such an unenjoyable, forgettable character that I turn the channel if he is on. Even most heels have something that is intriguing about them. He has nothing that sparks any interest for me. If I'm going to spend my time watching, I want some sort of payoff. Give me a good, solid match. Right now, he doesn't.

02-03-2023, 06:09 AM	#41133
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 78,746	I'm looking forward to Smackdown tonight to see what the Tribal Chief does.

02-03-2023, 12:16 PM	#41136
poomplavk Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 238	Yeah I love his jail gimmick...honestly IMO one of the highlights of raw I look forward to. He had an interview Royal Rumble weekend in Spanish but he was in character the whole time. The interviewer was talking to him in joking matter about jail and Dom answered everything with a straight face that he's been through a lot in jail...having to sleep on the cold floors and how not many people could go through what he did... hilarious interview.

02-03-2023, 09:41 PM	#41137
Cardboard Dawg Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 568	Bloodline is the best story in a LONG, LONG time

02-03-2023, 10:45 PM	#41138
Jolten Joe Banned - PBM Join Date: Dec 2022 Posts: 1,666	^^^^ 99% of the time yes but then you have nights like tonight where it's hyped to oblivion to get people to tune in so they can boast about the huge ratings and they lay an egg. Tonight honestly was probably one of the worst nights of this entire storyline.

02-03-2023, 11:01 PM	#41140
poomplavk Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 238	Overall good show...crowd was meh considering the hype around the show but at they woke up at the end. Bloodline stuff was good and, yeah, they gave us just enough to keep wanting more. Was thinking for a bit that Sami wasn't even gonna show. But....highlight of the night... Dom: "I learned this from my cell mate who was a getaway driver!" I know he's not everyone's cup of tea but that line had me cracking up. He really took advantage and learned a lot one night in prison lol.

02-04-2023, 11:29 AM	#41143
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,237	So Sami is just wrestling for the Universal title at EC? If that's the case yeah he wins that and Cody wins at WM and you have the title's split again between two shows.

02-05-2023, 09:31 AM	#41149
tomahawk Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 752	Anyone catch NXT Vengeance Day last night? I thought it was pretty solid, actually. Wes Lee vs. Dijak was a complete barn burner opener.

02-05-2023, 03:49 PM	#41150
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 78,746	Smackdown wasn't as good as I expected. I was OK with the short Bloodline promo. They have to sucker you in for more. The car race between Dom and Rey was pretty cool; especially the trash talk while driving.