✹The PERENNIAL Shohei Ohtani Thread✹

[daveyc1]

how much is Ohtani starting regularly adding to his slump? He is soon to be 32.

[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i was able to win the 2021 Black tonight due to the "slump"

I was a high bidder on that black. Probably me you and Puddlemonkey bidding against each other. haha

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

I was a high bidder on that black. Probably me you and Puddlemonkey bidding against each other. haha

I thought Puddlemonkey didn't buy cards anymore, just occasionally sends cards to PSA to get stolen. lmao

[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

I thought Puddlemonkey didn't buy cards anymore, just occasionally sends cards to PSA to get stolen. lmao

Oh maybe I misunderstood his reply

Either way - that 2021 looks crisp and sold for >$500.

[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

I mean the betting odds are just based on where people are putting their money. There's probably a lot of betters that still don't truly believe Ohtani can win CY despite his great pitching start, and have discounted him as a real contender.

If the calendar flips to August and Ohtani is still pitching lights out, a lot more believers will start putting money on Ohtani.

Thats not how it works. Cy young odds aren't parimutuel betting and they don't offer both sides. They determine what % chance Ohtani actually has to win Cy Young, lets say 10-1, then offer 8-1 payout and then prob offer even bigger since its ohtani, so if you had to guess markets right now are saying he prob has 10% chance to win.

If you wanted to bet no best you can find it 1k pays 1130 but you can't get any real volume down so not a real market

[NYRE2PECT]

I think this is the third copy of SCC #145 that I have owned - having sold the other two prematurely. My SCC AND SC-C run is complete. It took me far too long to figure out how they were different.


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Mister2Bits

I was a high bidder on that black. Probably me you and Puddlemonkey bidding against each other. haha

ahhhh nice! i think Monkey was the seller.

im just glad to have one. im down to the 22 S1
for my non-2018 run

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I think this is the third copy of SCC #145 that I have owned - having sold the other two prematurely. My SCC AND SC-C run is complete. It took me far too long to figure out how they were different.


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Wait, what's the difference?

I have a couple of 2020 SCC (or maybe SC-C?) at PSA now....they looked clean enough for 10's, but I guess I'll find out sometime in August. Lol

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Wait, what's the difference?

I have a couple of 2020 SCC (or maybe SC-C?) at PSA now....they looked clean enough for 10's, but I guess I'll find out sometime in August. Lol

Stadium Club Chrome

Stadium Club | Chrome

Different sets, but I was slow on the uptake as to how.

On the PSA flip the Stadium Club | Chrome is on the third line.




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[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Stadium Club Chrome

Stadium Club | Chrome

Different sets, but I was slow on the uptake as to how.

On the PSA flip the Stadium Club | Chrome is on the third line.




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Ok, I think I get it now. I thought there were 2 versions of the image on #145 out there, SC Chrome and regular SC/chrome insert. So there's only 1 2020 SC image of the overhead plate shot.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Can anyone tell me more about the 2018 Topps Holiday Bowman set? Were the Shohei autos in the set live or redemption? From what I gather, there were only 6 Ohtani autos in the set (5 #'d to 5 and a 1/1)? Looks like only 1 of the #'d to /5's ever sold publicly.

[Scarlet Knight]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Ok, I think I get it now. I thought there were 2 versions of the image on #145 out there, SC Chrome and regular SC/chrome insert. So there's only 1 2020 SC image of the overhead plate shot.

There are two. Here's the other one...

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/TUQAA...G/s-l1600.webp

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RRoAA...u/s-l1600.webp

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Ok, I think I get it now. I thought there were 2 versions of the image on #145 out there, SC Chrome and regular SC/chrome insert. So there's only 1 2020 SC image of the overhead plate shot.

There is a #145 SC-C insert…




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[Mister2Bits]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Ok, I think I get it now. I thought there were 2 versions of the image on #145 out there, SC Chrome and regular SC/chrome insert. So there's only 1 2020 SC image of the overhead plate shot.

Up until 2019, Stadium Club was released in one set with paper base and chrome (and chrome parallels) being hits in the box.

2020 - 2022 Topps released a second set called Stadium Club Chrome with some players having different images while still also releasing regular paper Stadium Club with Chrome hits.

In 2023 Stadium Club went back to just a single release with Chrome cards as hits.

The 2020 Overhead image can only be found in 2020 Stadium Club Chrome and not 2020 Stadium Club which used a different image.

[seanrs1]

Does anyone know if the 2018 Future stars black was paid for? It was a strong sale of $460.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/188345464407?nordt=true

[ThoseBackPages]

i still cant believe they didnt number those
even if it was all the way to 299

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i still cant believe they didnt number those
even if it was all the way to 299

Based on the info from baseballcardpedia the print run on these is unknown/not able to calculate..but its likely the black is ~299 and the blue is ~600.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Based on the info from baseballcardpedia the print run on these is unknown/not able to calculate..but its likely the black is ~299 and the blue is ~600.

that makes sense but without the serial numbering its all a mystery

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

that makes sense but without the serial numbering its all a mystery

For the newer Ohtani collectors out there....
For topps 2018 Flagship in general if the insert is black and numbered /299...the blue variant is non-numbered and the print run is ~600 (or double).

Before this past off season I picked up a lot of blue variants because they seemed underpriced because most did not know the print runs

For the non-numbered 2018 inserts I assume the print runs are similar based on the frequency I see them on Ebay...but its anyone's guess at this point.

[Rage]

Originally Posted by BoSoxFan1999

Can anyone tell me more about the 2018 Topps Holiday Bowman set? Were the Shohei autos in the set live or redemption? From what I gather, there were only 6 Ohtani autos in the set (5 #'d to 5 and a 1/1)? Looks like only 1 of the #'d to /5's ever sold publicly.

Pretty sure the autos were live as sticker autos. I met the seller the of Ohtani 1/1 Gold Festive Auto from that set a few years ago at a show here in San Diego. I am a fan of the colored parallels like the white snow and red festive paired with the Bowman pitching image.

Looks like a BGS 9.5 Auto /5 sold in 2020 for $472, that BGS 9 in your post was in 2024 for $2,318, as well as the 1/1 auto selling a couple times over the last couple years.

[BoSoxFan1999]

Originally Posted by Rage

Pretty sure the autos were live as sticker autos. I met the seller the of Ohtani 1/1 Gold Festive Auto from that set a few years ago at a show here in San Diego. I am a fan of the colored parallels like the white snow and red festive paired with the Bowman pitching image.

Looks like a BGS 9.5 Auto /5 sold in 2020 for $472, that BGS 9 in your post was in 2024 for $2,318, as well as the 1/1 auto selling a couple times over the last couple years.

As part of my Specta RPA trade, in addition to the 18 Update 83-2 black PSA 9, I also got a dozen 2018 Topps Holiday Bowman promotional packs, along with a '18 series 2 1983 silver pack. Gonna take all my willpower not to rip them. Lol

[seanrs1]

Originally Posted by seanrs1

Does anyone know if the 2018 Future stars black was paid for? It was a strong sale of $460.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/188345464407?nordt=true

Anyone with cardladder want to help me out?

[Seitas]

Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

I think this is the third copy of SCC #145 that I have owned - having sold the other two prematurely. My SCC AND SC-C run is complete. It took me far too long to figure out how they were different.


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Awesome card.

[ballislife]

Originally Posted by Rage

Pretty sure the autos were live as sticker autos. I met the seller the of Ohtani 1/1 Gold Festive Auto from that set a few years ago at a show here in San Diego. I am a fan of the colored parallels like the white snow and red festive paired with the Bowman pitching image.

Looks like a BGS 9.5 Auto /5 sold in 2020 for $472, that BGS 9 in your post was in 2024 for $2,318, as well as the 1/1 auto selling a couple times over the last couple years.

I remember seeing this card on Fanatics or Goldin or whatever auction and wanting to buy it. Ultimately, I forgot about the auction. I was shocked that it only went for 2.3K for an /5 Ohtani Bowman auto—sticker auto or not.

[Scarlet Knight]

Originally Posted by Seitas

Awesome card.

...but this one's the best!

https://goldin.co/item/2020-topps-st...signed-cavrxnl