Patrick Mahomes Prices - Page 1659

BostonNut · 09-19-2025, 08:14 AM

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25-4 TD INT ratio in playoff is a playoff choker. LMAO. Sometimes I wonder what these people are smoking

BostonNut · 09-19-2025, 08:15 AM

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Still considered a playoff choke artist until he gets over the hump.

Manning got over the hump but he is still considered a massive playoff choke artist.

Asian62150 · 09-19-2025, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Manning got over the hump but he is still considered a massive playoff choke artist.

Is he?

Today his rep seems to be one of the greats and a funny pitch man.

When it comes to his football career, I think most ppl will remember these things before any of his playoff failures:

-Super Bowl XLI
-MVPs
-Record setting year with Broncos
-Record for most INTs by a rookie
-Come back win to beat the Patriots in 2006 (maybe the playoff failures will be mentioned here as this game kind of represented him getting over the hump)

Also, "massive" seems a bit extreme...

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-19-2025, 08:49 AM

I think he’s overcome the choker label. I hate to say it but that 2006 afc championship game comeback against the pats and the subsequent sb win changed the narrative for him.

Fenway55 · 09-19-2025, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

Is he?

Yes..

daveyc1 · 09-19-2025, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

I think he’s overcome the choker label. I hate to say it but that 2006 afc championship game comeback against the pats and the subsequent sb win changed the narrative for him.

I would agree with this. as a Patriots fan, that 06 AFCCG was a heart breaker. Peyton earned my respect that day. I sure wish Kevin Faulk could have gotten another foot or so...

tjforce · 09-19-2025, 09:41 AM

Manning is in the same class of playoff performing QBs as Aaron Rodgers.

Manning 14-13 career playoff record
Rodgers 11-10 career playoff record

Right now Allen has a 7-6 playoff record. Hmmm

Mahomes is 17-4. He'd have to get to get playoffs and lose in the first round for the next 12 seasons to have a similar playoff winning % as these 3. He also has as many Super Bowl wins, and more Super Bowl MVPs than all 3 combined.

blackandgold · 09-19-2025, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Manning is in the same class of playoff performing QBs as Aaron Rodgers.

Manning 14-13 career playoff record
Rodgers 11-10 career playoff record

Right now Allen has a 7-6 playoff record. Hmmm

Mahomes is 17-4. He'd have to get to get playoffs and lose in the first round for the next 12 seasons to have a similar playoff winning % as these 3. He also has as many Super Bowl wins, and more Super Bowl MVPs than all 3 combined.

Stats don’t lie and yes Mahomes has amassed some great ones I think the narrative is Mahomes isn’t that good anymore and slowly but surely declining I for 1 would like to see him catch lightning in a bottle again but we shall see

BostonNut · 09-19-2025, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

Is he?

Today his rep seems to be one of the greats and a funny pitch man.

When it comes to his football career, I think most ppl will remember these things before any of his playoff failures:

-Super Bowl XLI
-MVPs
-Record setting year with Broncos
-Record for most INTs by a rookie
-Come back win to beat the Patriots in 2006 (maybe the playoff failures will be mentioned here as this game kind of represented him getting over the hump)

Also, "massive" seems a bit extreme...

14-13 playoff record for someone who some consider the GOAT?

Asian62150 · 09-19-2025, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tjforce

Manning is in the same class of playoff performing QBs as Aaron Rodgers.

Manning 14-13 career playoff record
Rodgers 11-10 career playoff record

Right now Allen has a 7-6 playoff record. Hmmm

Mahomes is 17-4. He'd have to get to get playoffs and lose in the first round for the next 12 seasons to have a similar playoff winning % as these 3. He also has as many Super Bowl wins, and more Super Bowl MVPs than all 3 combined.

I really wanted to put Peyton above A-A Ron, but the stats are pretty much all in Rodgers' favor. Ugh. A-A Ron has choked a lot in the playoffs as a favorite though, if memory serves. I think the Packers were the #1 seed three times under Rodgers and never made it to the SB.

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

14-13 playoff record for someone who some consider the GOAT?

I mean, Elway is also considered one of the best ever and here are his SB stats as a passer in 5 games:

2-3 record (1 MVP)
3 TDs
8 INTs
59.3 QB rating

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-19-2025, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by daveyc1

I would agree with this. as a Patriots fan, that 06 AFCCG was a heart breaker. Peyton earned my respect that day. I sure wish Kevin Faulk could have gotten another foot or so...

It was truly a shocker. BB had him bottled up for most of the meetings up until that second half then all of a sudden, the genies out of the bottle.

Let’s say the chiefs do make the playoffs this year and go up against Allen and the bills. Allen could very well have matured enough as a qb and just goes off on spags defense. Same goes for Lamar. The opportunity always exists for narratives to change.

2010GBPackers · 09-19-2025, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Asian62150

I really wanted to put Peyton above A-A Ron, but the stats are pretty much all in Rodgers' favor. Ugh. A-A Ron has choked a lot in the playoffs as a favorite though, if memory serves. I think the Packers were the #1 seed three times under Rodgers and never made it to the SB.

Okay, enough Rodgers slander.

For me (and the stats will show this), Rodgers had two very bad games in the playoffs: 1) The NFCC game vs. the Bears in 2010 (won, went to SB XLV) 2) vs. San Fran in 2022 (lost 13-10).

"Choked a lot?" No, not really.

Fun fact I'm sure many of you have seen on IG:

Brady has a higher playoff winning percentage when throwing 3 INTs than Rodgers has when throwing 3 TDs...

BostonNut · 09-19-2025, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

It was truly a shocker. BB had him bottled up for most of the meetings up until that second half then all of a sudden, the genies out of the bottle.

Let’s say the chiefs do make the playoffs this year and go up against Allen and the bills. Allen could very well have matured enough as a qb and just goes off on spags defense. Same goes for Lamar. The opportunity always exists for narratives to change.

Pats defense was riddled with the flu and the Colts turned up the heat in the RCA Dome.

It was a collapse just waiting to happen.

tjforce · 09-19-2025, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Okay, enough Rodgers slander.

For me (and the stats will show this), Rodgers had two very bad games in the playoffs: 1) The NFCC game vs. the Bears in 2010 (won, went to SB XLV) 2) vs. San Fran in 2022 (lost 13-10).

"Choked a lot?" No, not really.

Fun fact I'm sure many of you have seen on IG:

Brady has a higher playoff winning percentage when throwing 3 INTs than Rodgers has when throwing 3 TDs...

If anything, Rodgers, Manning, and Allen show that you can be an absolutely great QB but still not get it done in the playoff as much as you'd like.

It just makes what guys like Brady, Mahomes, and Montana did even more impressive.

tjforce · 09-19-2025, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackandgold

Stats don’t lie and yes Mahomes has amassed some great ones I think the narrative is Mahomes isn’t that good anymore and slowly but surely declining I for 1 would like to see him catch lightning in a bottle again but we shall see

I get that not everybody pays attention, but when you arguably have the worst skill position cast in the league (like he did these past two weeks, and probably bottom 5 last year after Rice, Hollywood Brown, and Pacheco all went down), it's hard to put up gaudy counting stats.

The fact that he's 3rd in the NFL in QBR and 1st in Points Added/game just shows you how high of a level he's actually playing at.

If later in the year Rice and Worthy are both healthy and playing, the offensive line hold up, and he's still just throwing for 225 yards and a touchdown a game, and the team isnt winning every one of them, I'll change my tune.

imbluestreak23 · 09-19-2025, 03:26 PM

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imbluestreak23 · 09-19-2025, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blackandgold

Stats don’t lie and yes Mahomes has amassed some great ones I think the narrative is Mahomes isn’t that good anymore and slowly but surely declining I for 1 would like to see him catch lightning in a bottle again but we shall see

Would you? I don't believe that one bit. Not that the internet matters all that much.

49erRCCollector · 09-19-2025, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

Okay, enough Rodgers slander.

For me (and the stats will show this), Rodgers had two very bad games in the playoffs: 1) The NFCC game vs. the Bears in 2010 (won, went to SB XLV) 2) vs. San Fran in 2022 (lost 13-10).

"Choked a lot?" No, not really.

Fun fact I'm sure many of you have seen on IG:

Brady has a higher playoff winning percentage when throwing 3 INTs than Rodgers has when throwing 3 TDs...

Well...

In the 2011 Divisional he was 26/46 a pick and a lost fumble.

In the 2019 NFCCG he threw two picks and fumbled 3 times, losing one.

I would not call these "chokes" - but definitely not up to his regular season standard. I appreciate Aaron, despite the recent PR hits he's taken, for how insanely efficient he is.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 09-19-2025, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Pats defense was riddled with the flu and the Colts turned up the heat in the RCA Dome.

It was a collapse just waiting to happen.

Yup I remember that. I think there was a few ticky tack calls against our secondary as well if I recall.

Onepocketj · 09-19-2025, 08:29 PM

Go away for a few days and come back to see people still replying to the trolls.

Disappointing

tjforce · 09-19-2025, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Go away for a few days and come back to see people still replying to the trolls.

Disappointing

Anyone got any new Patty's to show off? or old ones to show again?

Fenway55 · 09-19-2025, 11:15 PM

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Yup I remember that. I think there was a few ticky tack calls against our secondary as well if I recall.

"Ticky tack"..? They literally threw a penalty against the Patriots for doing something which was perfectly legal.

Onepocketj · 09-21-2025, 07:27 PM

Hopefully they get back to normal tonight

Delta5 · 09-21-2025, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Hopefully they get back to normal tonight

by normal you mean Mahomes being a rb and 5 punts for their offense?

pejc300 · 09-21-2025, 08:22 PM

Ok I’m calling time of death on the Chiefs. Butker is trash and we are trash. This is gross. We need a new offense coordinator.

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JohnnyHatesJazz Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 7,584	I think he’s overcome the choker label. I hate to say it but that 2006 afc championship game comeback against the pats and the subsequent sb win changed the narrative for him. __________________ "Arguments are inconsistent and goal posts are moved year to year to fit a biased narrative. Don’t be offended if I don’t take your opinion seriously.” Johnny Hates Jazz 1/7/26 *Captain Of The Mayeflower*

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tjforce Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 23,524	Manning is in the same class of playoff performing QBs as Aaron Rodgers. Manning 14-13 career playoff record Rodgers 11-10 career playoff record Right now Allen has a 7-6 playoff record. Hmmm Mahomes is 17-4. He'd have to get to get playoffs and lose in the first round for the next 12 seasons to have a similar playoff winning % as these 3. He also has as many Super Bowl wins, and more Super Bowl MVPs than all 3 combined. __________________ "Whether you like it or not, learn to love it, because it’s the best thing going. Wooooo!"

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imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,880 shortslabs	edit: DPd __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort Last edited by imbluestreak23; 09-19-2025 at 04:44 PM.

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Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,848 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Go away for a few days and come back to see people still replying to the trolls. Disappointing

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Onepocketj Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 22,848 jeflave-0 onepocketj	Hopefully they get back to normal tonight

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pejc300 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 10,795	Ok I’m calling time of death on the Chiefs. Butker is trash and we are trash. This is gross. We need a new offense coordinator.