2019 Trevor Bauer Cy Young thread

[Seitas]

Collusion in this case would be difficult to prove. Of course Bauer is worth the major league minimum and would provide possibly tens of millions of dollars of surplus value. But owners could reasonably argue that surplus value on the field does not relate to value overall. If he damages your brand and the financial loses are greater than the surplus value on the field it doesn’t make sense. They’re doing the math and he’s just not worth the risk yet. It is interesting to think about the A’s. As one poster mentioned their fans hate ownership anyway and no one shows up to their games outside of the few diehards. Plus they’re likely to be nomadic for the new few years and won’t have a media spotlight (outside of whatever Bauer would attract). It would almost be like a tree falling in the forrest with no one there to see.

[Noles939913]

As a Braves fan I say sign him. The backlash would be minimal as they already employ Marcell Ozuna.

[discostu]

Maybe he gets a contract, maybe he doesn't. He is his own worst enemy, and the image rehab tour stops are pretty thin...mostly to cater to the fans and supporters

Regardless....

Bauer wouldn't win a case against the Dodgers.

Bauer wouldn't with a case against MLBPA.

Bauer wouldn't win a case against MLBPA.

Manfred may be a tool, but Bauer has a mirror to look into. And that is something he hasn't been able to do

[fabiani12333]

I do think collusion is a factor in why Bauer hasn't signed -- it's somehow been conveyed to team's that he shouldn't be signed. Perhaps it's a result of the league's marketing strategy to promote more female participation and engagement.

But it's undeniable that Bauer is a perceived liability to teams. He's someone who continually attracts controversy. He always wants to be the focus of attention. He's not someone who seems willing to stay low and under the radar for the sake of his team. He's hard-headed and arrogant, to be sure -- he's very independent.

[fabiani12333]

Bill Shaikin of the LA Times did a mock job interview with Bauer: https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodge...lb-rob-manfred

Bauer doesn't want to give up his social media presence and sees it as a positive:

I want to work with a team on whatever is best for them and whatever concerns they have, so if someone came to me and said, ‘We don’t want you on social media at all. No posts,’ then we can certainly have that discussion. It’s something I like to do. For all the small moments along the way when there have been mistakes, I think there is a lot of good that comes from social media too — a lot of fan engagement, a lot of benefit.

I realize this conversation is more about the risks that go along with it, which is what an owner has to consider, but you also have to consider the benefits and weigh the two against each other. I think there are a lot of benefits to my social media presence.

Translation: he wants to continue being an influencer and to maintain the large number of followers he's meticulously built up over the years -- the young incels and bro dudes. Social media offers an alternative career choice and revenue source outside of playing baseball.

To Bauer's credit, he answered a lot of tough questions during his interview with Shaikin. He's desperate at this point to find a way back into MLB and is willing to be grilled by a reporter.

The thing that really stands out to me is how he constantly characterizes all his bad behavior and the ensuing controversies as "mistakes". He says the word eleven times in the article. It's almost pathological.

Bauer is a smart person. I can guarantee you he sees himself as a smart person. Do you honestly think he doesn't appreciate the potential negative ramifications of his actions?

[fulltritty]

Trevor Bauer pitches vs. Dodgers prospects in exhibition game

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...xhibition-game

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Trevor Bauer pitches vs. Dodgers prospects in exhibition game

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...xhibition-game

According to this article and the one in the ny post there were no scouts in attendance. He's not getting signed even though there are several teams that should be signing him.

[hxcmilkshake]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Bill Shaikin of the LA Times did a mock job interview with Bauer: https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodge...lb-rob-manfred

Bauer doesn't want to give up his social media presence and sees it as a positive:



Translation: he wants to continue being an influencer and to maintain the large number of followers he's meticulously built up over the years -- the young incels and bro dudes. Social media offers an alternative career choice and revenue source outside of playing baseball.

To Bauer's credit, he answered a lot of tough questions during his interview with Shaikin. He's desperate at this point to find a way back into MLB and is willing to be grilled by a reporter.

The thing that really stands out to me is how he constantly characterizes all his bad behavior and the ensuing controversies as "mistakes". He says the word eleven times in the article. It's almost pathological.

Bauer is a smart person. I can guarantee you he sees himself as a smart person. Do you honestly think he doesn't appreciate the potential negative ramifications of his actions?

Apparently not (in regards to social media) because if he's still gonna do it its just a matter of time before he goes off the rails again and becomes a distraction. Its all me,me me with him. Like a 14 yr old girl.

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[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by JRX

According to this article and the one in the ny post there were no scouts in attendance. He's not getting signed even though there are several teams that should be signing him.

shocked espn left out he hit 99 3 times in the first

[discostu]

“I’ve learned from those [mistakes]. I’ve spent a lot of my time going and talking to people to try to understand other perspectives. I’m doing my best to be better. I am committed to being better on social media, being better on the field, being better in the clubhouse, being better in life in general. I don’t want to be a player that signs a long-term deal and towards the end is resented, either by the fan base, by the organization or on my end for having my performance slip."
- Trevor Bauer after signing with the Dodgers in 2021

“I’ve learned from those [mistakes]. I’ve spent a lot of my time going and talking to people to try to understand other perspectives. I’m doing my best to be better. I am committed to being better on social media, being better on the field, being better in the clubhouse, being better in life in general. I don’t want to be a player that signs a long-term deal and towards the end is resented, either by the fan base, by the organization or on my end for having my performance slip."
- Trevor Bauer after signing with whatever team and wherever he plays in 2024

[awz50]

Bauer is his worst enemy in a lot of cases

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by JRX

According to this article and the one in the ny post there were no scouts in attendance. He's not getting signed even though there are several teams that should be signing him.

Yanks may need him.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by awz50

Bauer is his worst enemy in a lot of cases

That's always been the case.

[majestik101]

Pitched three scoreless innings.

0 runs allowed today against the Yankees

In other words

No means No

[Mephisto]

Originally Posted by majestik101

Pitched three scoreless innings.

0 runs allowed today against the Yankees

In other words

No means No

The headline 3 scoreless innings against the Yankees is misleading. There were very few Yankee starters in the game and their best players were flat out not there.
It took him over 50 pitches to get through those 3 innings and he found himself with the bases loaded in the 2nd inning against the bottom part of the weak line up the Yankees brought to Mexico.


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[JRX]

Originally Posted by Mephisto

The headline 3 scoreless innings against the Yankees is misleading. There were very few Yankee starters in the game and their best players were flat out not there.
It took him over 50 pitches to get through those 3 innings and he found himself with the bases loaded in the 2nd inning against the bottom part of the weak line up the Yankees brought to Mexico.


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Regardless, he still is talented enough to pitch in the majors.

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[Seitas]

Originally Posted by JRX

Regardless, he still is talented enough to pitch in the majors.

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His stuff looked fine. There are plenty of teams he could help. He’s a 2/3 starter at best and bottom of the rotation at worst. The fact that no one has given him a look is bad news for him. Pitchers have short shelf lives and he’s wasted his prime being a moron.

[fulltritty]

He looked a lot better than at least 3 of the current Yankee starting pitchers. Hal needs to sign him and tell him that if he posts negatively on social media, he'll find himself locked in a dark room with Judge.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

He looked a lot better than at least 3 of the current Yankee starting pitchers. Hal needs to sign him and tell him that if he posts negatively on social media, he'll find himself locked in a dark room with Judge.

Make it Stanton, that way if Bauer wins we'd be out of the contract its really win win.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by JRX

Make it Stanton, that way if Bauer wins we'd be out of the contract its really win win.

[Handsome Wes]

If any team wanted to sign Bauer, they would have by now. Obviously, they have not. They have spoken.

So why is Bauer out there, still trying? What part of "no means no" doesn't he understand?

[StlBen]

How long does no team have to sign him before his supports shut up.....clearly he is a toxic pressence that no one wants any part of.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by StlBen

How long does no team have to sign him before his supports shut up.....clearly he is a toxic pressence that no one wants any part of.

Who's a supporter? He'd be a better pitcher than 3-5 on the Yankees roster right now which is what a lot of Yankees fans are saying and I'm sure there are plenty of other teams that could use his services for the cheap price of league minimum too.

We've seen plenty of toxic players and domestic violence players continue to get jobs in MLB.

[StlBen]

Originally Posted by fulltritty

Who's a supporter? He'd be a better pitcher than 3-5 on the Yankees roster right now which is what a lot of Yankees fans are saying and I'm sure there are plenty of other teams that could use his services for the cheap price of league minimum too.

We've seen plenty of toxic players and domestic violence players continue to get jobs in MLB.

From your comments it sounds like you are a supporter. Sorry, maybe the Mexican league or Baseball Unlimted will bring him to the middle east, but MLB teams have been pretty clear they aren't interested. Also I'm guessing teams in Japan aren't even interested now after last years problems there.

[fulltritty]

Originally Posted by StlBen

From your comments it sounds like you are a supporter. Sorry, maybe the Mexican league or Baseball Unlimted will bring him to the middle east, but MLB teams have been pretty clear they aren't interested. Also I'm guessing teams in Japan aren't even interested now after last years problems there.

I'm a supporter of anyone who can help the Yankees win and who weren't convicted of a crime. Lots of people have gotten second chances throughout sports. I guarantee if George was still running the Yankees, he'd be a Yankee. George gave Strawberry and Gooden second chances.