WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Here’s what I predict. Seth can’t go, so they hold an EC match for the vacant title and Drew wins. Then we get Drew v Cody at WM and Cody wins. Raw after WM, Drew claymores Cody, Priest cashes in and wins, and we get Cody v Drew v Priest over the Summer.

I'm going to amend this.

Here's what I think happens. Seth Rollins won't be in the Main Event of WM. He'll bow out because the injury is too severe. At EC they'll have a 6-man to determine who will face Cody, which Drew will win, and it'll be Drew v. Cody. Night after WM, Drew claymores Cody, Priest cashes in, and wins the title. Then you'll have a Summer of Cody fighting Drew and Priest. He'll win at SummerSlam, right in time for Punk's return.

I'll add this on the Cody thing. Y'all know that Roman was going to beat Cody, right? WWE wants Reigns to hold the title past Hogan's streak.

[packman80]

See #WeWantCody is trending top 10 on X right now. I think WWE blew this big time. Fans are going to hijack this match and crap all over it.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by thenightman

It probably won't be a good match, but it won't matter because it's Wrestlemania. In the moment, people will pop and the emotion of it will be big. I would hardly call Rock v. Hogan a good match, but it's still the most iconic match in WM history.

If Cody is following his Dad's legacy and going through hard times, losing the title in the ME of Wrestlemania and winning it a year later in the ME of Wrestlemania is not hard times. Cody is as over as over can be. Not fighting Roman for the title isn't going to bury him. Everyone doesn't understand why he made the choice he did, but he hasn't even explained why he did it. Let the man explain it before passing judgement. I seriously doubt the reason isn't going to make sense.

I don't know that anyone thinks he's getting buried, but giving up the match with Roman is just horrible. It really hurts him I think. I mean the promo from Roman was about how it's a title made because nobody can beat him and a losers bracket title. He's really not wrong either, so Cody is gonna choose that?

[JustinVerlander07]

It's starting to feel like this may be 2014 all over again with Daniel Bryan. It's actually hard to believe that Rock would come back after all these years and because of the situation fans don't want it. Rock could face Roman at any PPV. Cody needs this.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I don't know that anyone thinks he's getting buried, but giving up the match with Roman is just horrible. It really hurts him I think. I mean the promo from Roman was about how it's a title made because nobody can beat him and a losers bracket title. He's really not wrong either, so Cody is gonna choose that?

They couldn't have made Cody look any worse.

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[packman80]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I don't know that anyone thinks he's getting buried, but giving up the match with Roman is just horrible. It really hurts him I think. I mean the promo from Roman was about how it's a title made because nobody can beat him and a losers bracket title. He's really not wrong either, so Cody is gonna choose that?

I think last Saturday night Cody 100% though the program was him and Roman. No reason otherwise to point at Roman and say yeah Roman is the guy. It makes zero sense to panic because Punk got hurt and say oh no we need Cody now vs Seth. You could have easily put a guy like Gunther into that role. He's been built up as the longest IC champ ever. I wonder if Johnson using his new role on the board pushed to get himself into this match.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by packman80

I think last Saturday night Cody 100% though the program was him and Roman. No reason otherwise to point at Roman and say yeah Roman is the guy. It makes zero sense to panic because Punk got hurt and say oh no we need Cody now vs Seth. You could have easily put a guy like Gunther into that role. He's been built up as the longest IC champ ever. I wonder if Johnson using his new role on the board pushed to get himself into this match.

Of course it's related to the rock being on the board.

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[thenightman]

Originally Posted by packman80

Rock vs Roman two huge ego's I doubt either wants to lose this match as it will make the other guy look better so who goes over? No way can it be a clean match because to it would make them look to weak to lose clean.

Roman goes over clean.

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I don't know that anyone thinks he's getting buried, but giving up the match with Roman is just horrible. It really hurts him I think. I mean the promo from Roman was about how it's a title made because nobody can beat him and a losers bracket title. He's really not wrong either, so Cody is gonna choose that?

I love that people are setting their opinions about the whole thing without waiting for things to play out. Internet fans, for years, have been begging WWE to tell stories and now that they are they're saying, "No, not that one!" It just goes to show that you can't please everyone.

Had an in-law reach out to me last night because he knows I'm a wrestling fan asking, "Is the Rock really gonna fight Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania?" This guy hasn't watched wrestling since the Attitude Era. This match will move needles. And here we have WWE internet fans crapping all over it.

You guys are getting worked up over nothing. Cody is going to finish his story. Just not in the way that you want it.

[mikejones]

Here's what I think should happen......
WM night one
Rhodes vs Rollins opens up WM. Rhodes wins.
Main event- rock vs reigns. Reigns wins. They beat down rock. Cody makes save and challenges reigns to a title vs title match on night two.
WM night two.
Main event- Rhodes defeats Reigns. Finishes the story.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by mikejones

Here's what I think should happen......

WM night one

Rhodes vs Rollins opens up WM. Rhodes wins.

Main event- rock vs reigns. Reigns wins. They beat down rock. Cody makes save and challenges reigns to a title vs title match on night two.

WM night two.

Main event- Rhodes defeats Reigns. Finishes the story.

Reverse hogan yokozuna

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[mtr]

Originally Posted by thenightman

I love that people are setting their opinions about the whole thing without waiting for things to play out. Internet fans, for years, have been begging WWE to tell stories and now that they are they're saying, "No, not that one!" It just goes to show that you can't please everyone.

Had an in-law reach out to me last night because he knows I'm a wrestling fan asking, "Is the Rock really gonna fight Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania?" This guy hasn't watched wrestling since the Attitude Era. This match will move needles. And here we have WWE internet fans crapping all over it.

You guys are getting worked up over nothing. Cody is going to finish his story. Just not in the way that you want it.

I think everyone understands that Roman vs Rock is a big-time match and will make a ton of money for WWE but people are upset because in kayfabe Cody's decision is completely nonsensical. He wins the Rumble again, immediately signals that he's going after Roman, and then less than a week later he voluntarily steps aside for the Rock? Why? He even said he's still coming for Roman and the Universal Title so why put off the rematch until after Mania? Maybe Cody will give an amazing promo next week that ties everything together and all this outrage will look silly but I have a hard time seeing how WWE can possibly make any sense of this.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by mtr

I think everyone understands that Roman vs Rock is a big-time match and will make a ton of money for WWE but people are upset because in kayfabe Cody's decision is completely nonsensical. He wins the Rumble again, immediately signals that he's going after Roman, and then less than a week later he voluntarily steps aside for the Rock? Why? He even said he's still coming for Roman and the Universal Title so why put off the rematch until after Mania? Maybe Cody will give an amazing promo next week that ties everything together and all this outrage will look silly but I have a hard time seeing how WWE can possibly make any sense of this.

Agreed!

Originally Posted by thenightman

I love that people are setting their opinions about the whole thing without waiting for things to play out. Internet fans, for years, have been begging WWE to tell stories and now that they are they're saying, "No, not that one!" It just goes to show that you can't please everyone.

Had an in-law reach out to me last night because he knows I'm a wrestling fan asking, "Is the Rock really gonna fight Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania?" This guy hasn't watched wrestling since the Attitude Era. This match will move needles. And here we have WWE internet fans crapping all over it.

You guys are getting worked up over nothing. Cody is going to finish his story. Just not in the way that you want it.

You've seen me post enough to know what you're saying to me is silly. I'm someone who cares way more about story and promos than in ring wrestling. The story makes the match better. Here's where your generalizing becomes wrong: we've had now 2 years of story. What me/lots of fans want is Cody vs Roman at Mania with Cody winning. He doesn't 'finish the story' beating Seth for the losers bracket title (Thanks Roman for this fun analogy!!).

It's very Un-Rock like the poiitic in Wrestling but all the dirtsheets right now are basically saying that's what he did and he pushed Cody out. I love Rock, but I want Cody vs Roman, not Rock vs Roman at Mania. You can do Rock vs Roman at Saudi and it'll be just fine. Hoping they pivot because the negative response is going mainstream now.

Also, obviously super casuals will perk up for this but Mania was selling out regardless and it is going to be the most watched Mania ever if he's there or not. Every PPV has been the most watched non-Mania for the past year.

[bjho852]

I want to see more unfold first before having judgment, but I'd be lying if I say that I don't hope the creatives finding a way to circle back to Cody-Roman for 'Mania this year, with or without all these fan backlash, with or without Cody winning the new-WHC belt first.

[mikecala98]

Seth cannot afford to lose the belt to Cody and Cody cannot lose at WM to anyone not named Roman Reigns. Tough situation.

[packman80]

Only thing that in my mind works is Rock says Cody earned his spot vs Roman and he's not taking that away. So as a member of the board he decided that night one it's going to be Cody vs Roman and night two get gets what's left of the Tribabl Chief. Roman losses both matches and complains it was unfair that he had to face two men at WM and no one can be prepared for that. Then he says screw the WWE and he's leaving. Takes how many months off break.

Now in reality I know this won't happen and Cody is going to get screwed over and pretty much have all his momentum taken away while the WWE tries to say no no look at him he's still fighting trying to finish the story cheer for him he's still trying to finish the story despite us burying his ass.

[packman80]

See Awesome Truth not part of the 4 way battle on Raw to face Judgement Day at EC for the tag titles. Seems more and more likely that Awesome Truth will face Judgement Day at WM and probably win the titles off them.

[jmarascojr]

The "reverse Hogan/Yokozuna" take above had me thinking...

Cody vs. Drew for the title on Night 1 and Cody loses again, WWE Universe can't believes this is happening... #JusticeForCody trends on X for the next 24 hours...

Night 2....
Rock vs. Roman, Bloodline interferes and Roman wins...
Bloodline is beating down The Rock, Cody and Jey Uso come down to make the save.

Heyman, in the role of Mr. Fuji, tells Cody that Roman still has enough in the tank for him right here right now...
The Rock, in the role of Bret Hart, waves Cody in and tells him to go for it, the place goes nuts, Cody jumps in the ring and Cody wins the title...

Everybody goes home happy and WWE can bullshiz us and tell us that this was the plan alllllllll along....

[bjho852]

Originally Posted by mikecala98

Seth cannot afford to lose the belt to Cody and Cody cannot lose at WM to anyone not named Roman Reigns. Tough situation.

For some of us, the 2nd part of the comment is probably "Cody cannot lose at WM to anyone, especially Roman Reigns."

[cdub6238]

Well good news for the next few weeks for NXT watchers...

Won't have to suffer through the atrocious commentary from Booker T tonight or next few Tuesdays...oh darn

[mnvikingstwins]

Originally Posted by cdub6238

Well good news for the next few weeks for NXT watchers...

Won't have to suffer through the atrocious commentary from Booker T tonight or next few Tuesdays...oh darn

Would be fun if they rotated a few injured main roster people through as replacements

[jazz1232dc]

Just make Roman pull double duty. Roman/Rock ME night one with Roman winning. Cody/Roman ME night two with Cody winning the title because Roman ran out of gas. Cody finishes the story and Roman has an excuse for losing. It really isn't that complicated.

Seth can take on Gunther night one

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by jazz1232dc

Just make Roman pull double duty. Roman/Rock ME night one with Roman winning. Cody/Roman ME night two with Cody winning the title because Roman ran out of gas. Cody finishes the story and Roman has an excuse for losing. It really isn't that complicated.

Seth can take on Gunther night one

I'm curious why they aren't going Gunther/Rollins myself.

I get it, he's still IC champ...but then why do that face to face promo with Seth prior to the Rumble?

If it was just a random Gunther "I'm in the Rumble I'm gonna win promo", it could've been done anywhere...

I don't see any "big match" names for Gunther for WM....unless they want to hotshot Bronn THAT quick

I actually thought it would've been kinda cool to hype it up as another Hogan/Warrior main event...champ vs champ, winner takes all

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Would be fun if they rotated a few injured main roster people through as replacements

ANYTHING/ANYBODY is better than Booker T...

It was hilarious he responded to his "critics" on Twitter awhile back and just called them "jealous"

[bjho852]

Now, assuming that Seth is good for WM, and Cody is slated for the new-WHC match, what will happen to the EC match itself?
If the EC winner is added to the new-WHC match, it will further devalue Cody's Rumble win.