Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!!

[ninjacookies]

The constant underhand mudslinging and counter pumping twixt the 57 n' 101 camps is truly a sight to behold. Just pure, unbridled dandyness.




Verbal fisticuffs over provenance superiority in 80's rookie bass.

Like watching Real Housewives on Betamax.

[AbraCalabro]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

The constant underhand mudslinging and counter pumping twixt the 57 n' 101 camps is truly a sight to behold. Just pure, unbridled dandyness.




Verbal fisticuffs over provenance superiority in 80's rookie bass.

Like watching Real Housewives on Betamax.

86F cucks are just mad they didn't get in on the action when the getting was good, so they could profit hard off the 101 too.

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[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by AbraCalabro

86F cucks are just mad they didn't get in on the action when the getting was good, so they could profit hard off the 101 too.

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Not everyone was blessed enough to catch Don n' Kenny's Star BlueChip Specials live at 2am without risking their shift@Blockbusters, breh.

[Starman101]

The funny thing is how I hear these YouTubers saying they're gonna hold out buying a Star until the PSA pop grows and prices stabilize

Yet they tout 86 Fleer which has a population the Star will never even remotely come close to

Um....PSA 10 86 Fleer goes from 750-500k to 180k (and likely going lower in this worsening economic environment) within a 2 year span?????

If that doesn't show price stabilization (and major pump and dump manipulation scheme ala PMGs) then I don't really know what does???

The high pop on 86 Fleer is what hurts it

But both Star and Fleer are historically important cards

Both of these cards will rise and fall in unison but the Fleers value will always be capped imo

The pop is just too high on them

Don't even mention the Panini modern insane pop count pump and dump scheme

Modern is just pure trash man

I digress but don't even waste your money

[sportsyard]

If the star 101 was such a great card and all these Jordan collectors had to have one, why didnt they buy them before? Why was it that PSA had to "authenticate" them as the true rookie to have validation with these so called Jordan guys? Wouldn't they have under ground thought that was "the" rc all along?

This reeks of manipulation at the highest end. The 101 will drop, then the 86 will pop. Its just a game with the same people making money.

[MJGOAT23]

Originally Posted by sportsyard

If the star 101 was such a great card and all these Jordan collectors had to have one, why didnt they buy them before? Why was it that PSA had to "authenticate" them as the true rookie to have validation with these so called Jordan guys? Wouldn't they have under ground thought that was "the" rc all along?

This reeks of manipulation at the highest end. The 101 will drop, then the 86 will pop. Its just a game with the same people making money.

precisely

[rj.cataldo]

Originally Posted by sportsyard

If the star 101 was such a great card and all these Jordan collectors had to have one, why didnt they buy them before? Why was it that PSA had to "authenticate" them as the true rookie to have validation with these so called Jordan guys? Wouldn't they have under ground thought that was "the" rc all along?

This reeks of manipulation at the highest end. The 101 will drop, then the 86 will pop. Its just a game with the same people making money.

Ton of Jordan collectors did think that. It was the Fleer that was being pumped because they were easier to obtain and push. When I grew up, the kid down the street that had a Jordan “rookie” had a Star.

There is no doubt that PSA choice to grade has added hype around this card, but the main reason it was held down was a lot of bad information surrounding the provenance of these cards, which the choice by PSA has lifted to some degree (even though it didn’t change the facts).


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[6celtics33]

I wouldn’t blame this on Jordan guys. Jordan guys already had the card(s) or the one they liked over the other. This is all PSA bs hype now that they are grading. Just people wanting to legitimize them to make more $. No new information has come out.

As to this which is the real RC argument? Why does it have to be 1? What’s the real Brady or Griffey or Kobe or Lebron rookie? There isn’t 1?

[rj.cataldo]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

I wouldn’t blame this on Jordan guys. Jordan guys already had the card(s) or the one they liked over the other. This is all PSA bs hype now that they are grading. Just people wanting to legitimize them to make more $. No new information has come out.

As to this which is the real RC argument? Why does it have to be 1? What’s the real Brady or Griffey or Kobe or Lebron rookie? There isn’t 1?

Agree with this for sure. The choices aren’t mutually exclusive. Own both if you can! I had a choice to buy a star 8.5 or a Fleer 9 a few years ago and I chose the star because that was always the rookie to me. That said, I still want a Fleer someday. Both good cards that belong in any Jordan collector.


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[sebreg]

86 Fleer MJ PSA 10 just did 174k. What is the floor on these? Correction on these higher pop high-premiumed cards is pretty nasty but anyone with more than two functioning brain cells could see the correction coming from a mile away.

[Hilton]

Originally Posted by sebreg

86 Fleer MJ PSA 10 just did 174k. What is the floor on these? Correction on these higher pop high-premiumed cards is pretty nasty but anyone with more than two functioning brain cells could see the correction coming from a mile away.

Yes just sold for $174k goldin auctions.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by sportsyard

If the star 101 was such a great card and all these Jordan collectors had to have one, why didnt they buy them before? Why was it that PSA had to "authenticate" them as the true rookie to have validation with these so called Jordan guys? Wouldn't they have under ground thought that was "the" rc all along?

This reeks of manipulation at the highest end. The 101 will drop, then the 86 will pop. Its just a game with the same people making money.

Most definitely. But where there's money to be made, people will pump (and dump) a card.

Hopefully no BO members buy-in at current prices and get caught holding the bag.

[gomiamigo]

Amazing that Nat has a big Star collection and then PSA suddenly decides to start grading them.

I wonder how many his group bought first?

[Nomad]

Hope Nat gets interested 90s errors then.

[mm3030]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Amazing that Nat has a big Star collection and then PSA suddenly decides to start grading them.

I wonder how many his group bought first?

Define "big collection"? I'm pretty sure he stated that he has 1 MJ 101, or it may have even been 0.

Also, he has literally all the cards, of everyone, ever, lol. Go comment on his IG and say "show me your top 10 Muggsy Bogues cards" and he will have THE top 10 Muggsy Bogues cards.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by sebreg

86 Fleer MJ PSA 10 just did 174k. What is the floor on these? Correction on these higher pop high-premiumed cards is pretty nasty but anyone with more than two functioning brain cells could see the correction coming from a mile away.

The floor is probably around $75,000.

Though BO pimp bois will tell you they would buy ten at that price.

[hauntedcomputer]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Amazing that Nat has a big Star collection and then PSA suddenly decides to start grading them.

I wonder how many his group bought first?

He said (at National, I think?) he only has one 101 and it's in a bagged set. He really doesn't seem interested in Gary Vee-style market manipulation and hype, and with his money it would be peanuts anyway. Many of the Star collectors I know assumed PSA would start grading them once he came aboard, though. Nat's probably just as happy to get Fat Lever graded as Jordan. Is there any record of him ever selling any card?

I remember in the 90s during the last bubble there was a general perception or "collective wisdom" that all Star Jordans were fakes, but even 86 fleer Jordans were sketchy then--everyone had their magnifying glass to check the print dots. Basically it was a scared market among general collectors.

Even today there is so much misinformation about Star (including on BO) that it feels risky to mess with them, and PSA adding the perception of legitimacy naturally would boost value. I own a lot of Star cards (no Jordans) but I still wouldn't buy a raw Jordan. Right now I wouldn't buy a graded Jordan, either. Believe it or not, legit raw 101s are still turning up.

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Amazing that Nat has a big Star collection and then PSA suddenly decides to start grading them.

I wonder how many his group bought first?

I believe Nat when he says he only has a bagged Star MJ.

But how many other PSA insiders knew this information in time to buy up Star cards before the announcement?

Part of the reason cards have seen so much growth is because it's unregulated so the big fish can manipulate and take advantage of insider info to their heart's content.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

I believe Nat when he says he only has a bagged Star MJ.

But how many other PSA insiders knew this information in time to buy up Star cards before the announcement?

Part of the reason cards have seen so much growth is because it's unregulated so the big fish can manipulate and take advantage of insider info to their heart's content.

Nothing against Nat because I like the guy.

With that said, those who knew that PSA (whether employees or friends of employees) would grade such cards definitely started loading up on them prior to the announcement.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

I believe Nat when he says he only has a bagged Star MJ.

But how many other PSA insiders knew this information in time to buy up Star cards before the announcement?

Part of the reason cards have seen so much growth is because it's unregulated so the big fish can manipulate and take advantage of insider info to their heart's content.

Well if you follow politicians and their stock portfolios and also corporations and their stocking up of single-family homes - it doesn't matter whether a market is regulated or not. Greed trumps all in today's society.

[AbraCalabro]

Glad more and more people are seeing through the B.S.

Time for me to call you jealous haters and conspiracy theorists and make a reference about how you're just mad because you're not making money pillaging the hobby like I am and then make a post on IG and close it with #thehobby

[k13]

No reason why it can't go to $50k.

[90skid]

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[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by 90skid

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Haha, one dude with 15 psa 10 jordan rookies?

Really diminishes the value in my eyes........

[NoleinJax]

Originally Posted by gomiamigo

Amazing that Nat has a big Star collection and then PSA suddenly decides to start grading them.

I wonder how many his group bought first?

I made the same comment in the PSA to grade Star cards thread which someone replied 1000000% which Nat replied to with "you guys are hilarious sometimes. for the record, I don't own a single one. just one in a team bag that will remain sealed." How many believe that?

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