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mwheeler27 · 08-11-2020, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigEd

Mister Cartoon is well known for his clowns. He is the co-owner of Joker brand clothing, which is really well known in LA.

As far as the card goes, I may be stating the obvious, but that picture is the clown cartoon version of himself, so the photos are Tony Gwynn the player, Mr Padre the person, Mister Cartoon the artist. I really like it. I think it flows well, it's creative, and I love the drawings.

Agree 100%.

Fantastic card by a fantastic, well-known P2020 contributing artist.

Cards like that Gwynn is what will help propel this set beyond what many believe it can do.

mwheeler27 · 08-11-2020, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Cartoon is a good $7 buy

Sure is!

And a good $15.95 buy.

ThoseBackPages · 08-11-2020, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Sure is!

And a good $15.95 buy.

no, that is too much

gmoney328 · 08-11-2020, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

Cartoon is a good $7 buy

Yep. My thoughts exactly.

mwheeler27 · 08-11-2020, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BigEd

I can certainly see your point. I think it is bold, but it's also a safe play for Cartoon fans. It may also be a safe play for So Cal natives, especially for those in San Diego who are familiar with the fineline tattoo art style. It will be interesting to see how the PR is affected. It's an easy buy for me, but whether it's up front or secondary market is going to be the question.

I wonder if any of the East Coast artists will represent and step up to the challenge to show themselves like the West Coast has done?

I know Thiele basically put Efdot on his Williams card, but that doesn't really count.

ThoseBackPages · 08-11-2020, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I wonder if any of the East Coast artists will represent and step up to the challenge to show themselves like the West Coast has done?

I know Thiele basically put Efdot on his Williams card, but that doesn't really count.

i hope not. thats what companion cards are for

mwheeler27 · 08-11-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

im surprised that Topps let Cartoon put himself into the set

Ben Baller does it every time. Face or name, they both represent the artist.

I love that Mr. C put the Clown Face on his card for all to see. Almost like a shout out to Baller if you ask me.

gmoney328 · 08-11-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

What he goes through???

If he is selling too much to keep up with the volume he should scale back, period.

A customer should not expect bad service because the seller is very busy.

The axiom, "don't bite off more than you can chew," applies here.

It's hard to feel sympathy for his situation. You offer a service, if it gets overwhelming, stop offering the service until you get caught up. Sounds like he should have hired someone to help.

ThoseBackPages · 08-11-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Ben Baller does it every time. Face or name, they both represent the artist.

I love that Mr. C put the Clown Face on his card for all to see. Almost like a shout out to Baller if you ask me.

then why Cartoon putting his face in it now, and not from day one?

also, you like everything except the Thiele Williams lol

goodsport97 · 08-11-2020, 10:51 AM

I'm not a fan of the Gwynn today, feels off to me by including the Mister Cartoon clown. I've liked a lot of his work thus far, but this is an easy pass for me. Just my opinion though, I can see how this particular card may be appealing to his fans

ThoseBackPages · 08-11-2020, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gmoney328

The axiom, "don't bite off more than you can chew," applies here.

It's hard to feel sympathy for his situation. You offer a service, if it gets overwhelming, stop offering the service until you get caught up. Sounds like he should have hired someone to help.

sounds like how people want topps to act! LOL

ThoseBackPages · 08-11-2020, 10:52 AM

todays Cartoon card featuring Gwynn is terrible.

and that's ok, the set marches on

fjdlrw · 08-11-2020, 10:56 AM

How great would it be if Oldmanalan's next card was just a selfie of himself standing in a field. With a hat on that he thought was cool, and with or without clown makeup.

I think it's two days in a row of passes for me, which would be the first time in a long time. Might circle back to that Clemente, though.

gmoney328 · 08-11-2020, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

sounds like how people want topps to act! LOL

Yeah, true. Unfortunately Topps has the market cornered here, and can do pretty much whatever they want.

Shinjoy · 08-11-2020, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigEd

Mister Cartoon is well known for his clowns. He is the co-owner of Joker brand clothing, which is really well known in LA.

As far as the card goes, I may be stating the obvious, but that picture is the clown cartoon version of himself, so the photos are Tony Gwynn the player, Mr Padre the person, Mister Cartoon the artist. I really like it. I think it flows well, it's creative, and I love the drawings.

Good take. I'm surprised this is only the second card he's tagged (after Mattingly).

samcam · 08-11-2020, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UGLI baby

Cartoon Gwynn woulda been 10/10 if he would have redisigned the original card, and just put his clown face in place of the Gwynn face.

Just Gwynn butt, and clown face. Boom

I could get behind that one!

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I wonder if any of the East Coast artists will represent and step up to the challenge to show themselves like the West Coast has done?

I know Thiele basically put Efdot on his Williams card, but that doesn't really count.

LOL

I personally prefer the big colorful bold mysterious Clemente Cartoon. I appreciate that he has mixed it up so much however. You can tell who made them but every single one is super different.

mwheeler27 · 08-11-2020, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

then why Cartoon putting his face in it now, and not from day one?

also, you like everything except the Thiele Williams lol

- I can think of a couple reasons, but most importantly...why not now?

- Which means I don't like "everything".

AirplaneDon · 08-11-2020, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kabrune2

I’m a huge Mr Cartoon fan, but for whatever reason his tattoo art style has not transferred over to 2.5x3.5 cards for me. However, I did like the Clemente, and I absolutely loved his Oakland work for McGwire and Rickey, but all the others are blah to me so far. He was the artist I thought I’d have to have, but at this point I’ve only picked up 3 of his cards. It might just be Mr Cartoon can’t be boxed into borders, his style is expressive and I don’t think a standard size canvas will truly bring out his best work.

Interesting perspective on this; it's something I thought Ermsy's work (edit, Saladeen's as well) would suffer from coming in to the project, but it hasn't for the most part.

samcam · 08-11-2020, 11:11 AM

Companion-ship...ment notification!

Andrew Thiele dope George Floyd Heritage card on the way to meeeeee!

And some e-mails about Tyson Beck's Tatum dropping tomorrow!

Interesting bunch of options for purchase. Since the internet is a cesspool I will gripe that it seems the parallels are not inserted randomly.

We are gamblers, let us shoot our shot Tyson.

AirplaneDon · 08-11-2020, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mwheeler27

- I can think of a couple reasons, but most importantly...why not now?

- Which means I don't like "everything".

Genuinely surprised you like this that much given how much you view the original cards as the most important thing in the set. I would think adding an artists face so prominently (as opposed to working in your branding within the overall design) would have gone against the whole respect the cards (which are the reason the set exists) POV you've had thus far. It's always so interesting to see where we all individually set our lines and then blur them.

Bruvydsb · 08-11-2020, 11:13 AM

You guys keep calling him Mr.C and all I want to see is a picture of Tom Bosley on the card.

AirplaneDon · 08-11-2020, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

You guys keep calling him Mr.C and all I want to see is a picture of Tom Bosley on the card.

Every time people say Mr. C I think they are just addressing me more formally.

fjdlrw · 08-11-2020, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

You guys keep calling him Mr.C and all I want to see is a picture of Tom Bosley on the card.

Haha! That's great.

gmoney328 · 08-11-2020, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruvydsb

You guys keep calling him Mr.C and all I want to see is a picture of Tom Bosley on the card.

I'm in on the Pinky Tuscadero companion card. Need to have The Fonz on water skis somewhere too.

rats60 · 08-11-2020, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

I see where you're coming from, but I'm in the Clemente was standing on Clemente camp.

1955 to me was a worse-of-both-worlds compromise between the 1954 and 1956 designs, and Ermsy did a nice job poking fun at it. And, I think, honored Clemente in the process.

For Clementes, I'd probably rank them 1 Cartoon, 2 Ermsy, 3 Saladeen, 4 Oldmanalan, 5 Shore, 6 Taylor, with Cartoon a clear #1 to me, #2-4 very close.

These are my rankings
1 Oldmanalan
2 Saladeen
3 Chang
4 JK5
5 Taylor
6 Ermsy
7 Grotesk
8 Natural
19 tie Cartoon and Shore

08-11-2020, 10:51 AM	#44810
goodsport97 Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 846 redsoxfanatic97	I'm not a fan of the Gwynn today, feels off to me by including the Mister Cartoon clown. I've liked a lot of his work thus far, but this is an easy pass for me. Just my opinion though, I can see how this particular card may be appealing to his fans __________________ Red Sox, Jonah Heim @lasershowcards on Instagram

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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 89,837 ThoseBackPages	todays Cartoon card featuring Gwynn is terrible. and that's ok, the set marches on __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

08-11-2020, 10:56 AM	#44813
fjdlrw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Michgan Posts: 1,290 fred*danielle	How great would it be if Oldmanalan's next card was just a selfie of himself standing in a field. With a hat on that he thought was cool, and with or without clown makeup. I think it's two days in a row of passes for me, which would be the first time in a long time. Might circle back to that Clemente, though.

08-11-2020, 11:11 AM	#44819
samcam Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,416	Companion-ship...ment notification! Andrew Thiele dope George Floyd Heritage card on the way to meeeeee! And some e-mails about Tyson Beck's Tatum dropping tomorrow! Interesting bunch of options for purchase. Since the internet is a cesspool I will gripe that it seems the parallels are not inserted randomly. We are gamblers, let us shoot our shot Tyson.

08-11-2020, 11:13 AM	#44821
Bruvydsb Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,913	You guys keep calling him Mr.C and all I want to see is a picture of Tom Bosley on the card.